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Midnight Voyager posted:All he had to do is have Dominic try to help him, have Sieg go "Look, there's no way out, I've seen it from this side and I know this. Don't tell anyone. I don't want their pity." That could even be made sorta ambiguous, like maybe he isn't a cartoon and still cares about the people he left behind and doesn't want them to hurt on his behalf. While still, at face value, reading like a selfish thing to say! the tiniest bit of nuance! He doesn't want nuance.
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BSS:Batman's Scrappy Sidekick > Dominic Deegan: He doesn't want nuance.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:56
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Twelve by Pies posted:Beelzebufo said that this isn't true, that Siegfried's soul was damned from the start (which would be a continuation of the character assassination of him when Mookie got upset that people liked Siggy), so it's just Jayden feeling incredibly guilty for cheating. and the act of cheating is still going to be treated as evil in and off itself, so that she needs to swear a vow of silence and go off on a death pilgrimage because of it. Milov is still going to blow up the Luanian church over it (spoilers). She won't be forgiven for the act, She'll just have the double whammy of feeling like Siggy betrayed her as well.
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Beelzebufo posted:and the act of cheating is still going to be treated as evil in and off itself, so that she needs to swear a vow of silence and go off on a death pilgrimage because of it. Milov is still going to blow up the Luanian church over it (spoilers). She won't be forgiven for the act, She'll just have the double whammy of feeling like Siggy betrayed her as well. the pilgrimage ultimately ends up being more about Stunt's redemption than hers (his turn towards misogyny and murder turns out to be actually a woman's fault) and the first time she speaks to end the vow of silence she's interrupted by Greg. It really does not get better for her from here on out
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Jul 9, 2021 02:28
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Oh yeah that's right, Stunt's backstory changes from "I slit my mama's throat because all women are evil" to "I walked in on her having lesbian sex and the shock caused me to trip and fall on her with a knife."
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 What? This loving comic I swear to loving gently caress The past 2 weeks of updates have been a waste of our loving time And Dominic Deegan is still loving puppetmastering the entire universe from beyond the loving grave gently caress Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jul 9, 2021 05:23
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It's incredible that Veth being late didn't loving matter, Veth himself didn't loving matter, the poem he read didn't loving matter, him asking about Adrak Bulgak didn't loving matter, absolutely nothing loving mattered. What's the opposite of Chekov's Gun?
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Jul 9, 2021 05:33
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2 weeks think you mean 2 years
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Jul 9, 2021 05:34
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lol so Dominic definitely wrote that rule because he saw the future and has been puppet-mastering Snout all this time
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Jul 9, 2021 05:38
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Codependent Poster posted:lol so Dominic definitely wrote that rule because he saw the future and has been puppet-mastering Snout all this time Maybe, but it's just as equally likely and stupid that this was just totally convenient dumb luck
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Jul 9, 2021 05:40
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah My husband and I were trying to decipher the weird expressions on the last page and he suggested that maybe Snout's card was so special he'd get to skip the waiting list. We both laughed at that ridiculous idea.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:42
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It it possible for something to be Meta-condescending? Because this entire story now feels like an exercise in having Mookie's standin characters dote on the oh so special dude with a disability, in a "you can do it! So Inspiring!" way.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:49
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Wow, even obstacles he/we dont even know about get overcome in seconds with 0 effort. Is there ever going to be conflict in this story that Snout himself has to expend effort to overcome or is it just going to be "oh someone else already took care of this for you have fun"
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Jul 9, 2021 06:01
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Snout did have obstacles and conflict that he overcame way back in the beginning. Like, he had to figure out how to get resin from that living tree that flipped him off, which required him to make a plan and execute it. He did get help from the Ink Witch (disguised as the pagefinder spell at the time) but he still came up with the plan himself, she didn't just go "I'll take care of it Snout, don't worry." As soon as she became his traveling companion, that's when he stopped needing to put forth any amount of effort because mommy did everything for him.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:09
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Gonna call it that the book is missing a page and we're going to flail around for
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Twelve by Pies posted:Snout did have obstacles and conflict that he overcame way back in the beginning. Like, he had to figure out how to get resin from that living tree that flipped him off, which required him to make a plan and execute it. He did get help from the Ink Witch (disguised as the pagefinder spell at the time) but he still came up with the plan himself, she didn't just go "I'll take care of it Snout, don't worry." That was also when the comic cared about being wordless. It made some sort of effort at visual composition, expressive actions, and sight gags.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:34
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man i can't believe we're feeling nostalgic for the early days of this comic
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Jul 9, 2021 06:36
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This is easily the funniest thing that has happened in this comic in over a year.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:37
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So Mookie just forgot Snout doesn't have his library card. I don't know why I expected anything different.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:51
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If the books are currently sitting there in the library, unused, why is there a waitlist to use them.
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Invisible Clergy posted:So Mookie just forgot Snout doesn't have his library card. I don't know why I expected anything different. In any other comic you'd assume he just got it back offscreen, but that was literally the only interaction those two had and nothing every happens to Snout offscreen.
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TheHan posted:If the books are currently sitting there in the library, unused, why is there a waitlist to use them. Research libraries tend to have one copy of a book that's not for borrowing and can only be read in the library. Of course you normally don't need the specialest of library cards to read them and can instead just, you know, take the book to a table and start reading. And if a book is in the special archive that requires a special library card, why is it also available outside? That kind of defeats the purpose. But that's what you get when the highest possible stakes are "Snout might have to wait three weeks to read a book" and there is no indication that they're on a time limit and could just chill in Arudak's tower for that time, maybe get to know the freshly cured corpse bride with no repercussions.
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It WOULD be very funny if he did just sign up for the waitlist and go home to Arudak's to do more nothing, though. At least the fact that the illusion guy didn't actually steal his card explains why nobody was concerned about it this whole time. On the other hand, I'm not sure why he looked so worried about his library card before handing it over if he wasn't worried enough to just... get a new library card? Like, you can do that. You can just sign up for a library card. Libraries are free, generally. I do think this was probably some kind of Dominic seer BS though.
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Hell, a forced waiting period to get to read the book would've made the meandering nature of mookie's storytelling work somewhat better. If the characters consciously know that they've got time in which to dick around then showing them dicking around doesn't feel like it's wasting our time, it just feels like the narrative panning out as planned. This page does still serve a purpose though, and that's to make Snout into a chosen one.
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Jul 9, 2021 07:45
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 All the roads lead to the mongreltown bookstore.
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Bismuth posted:Wow, even obstacles he/we dont even know about get overcome in seconds with 0 effort. Is there ever going to be conflict in this story that Snout himself has to expend effort to overcome or is it just going to be "oh someone else already took care of this for you have fun" He kinda sorta maybe if you squint had to do stuff to get the pages back You know, back when the comic had a semblance of forward momentum
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Codependent Poster posted:lol so Dominic definitely wrote that rule because he saw the future and has been puppet-mastering Snout all this time He met a mongrelman in the original comic so this could be "I want people like my friend to have access to books", but lol if it just turns out he had another convenient vision and made the library have this rule.
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Now the wild edge library being in the middle of nowhere makes even less sense, even as a gag. Why wouldn't it be at Mongreltown?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Now the wild edge library being in the middle of nowhere makes even less sense, even as a gag. Why wouldn't it be at Mongreltown? Maybe the Mongreltown library is just filled with smut.
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Heliotrope posted:He met a mongrelman in the original comic so this could be "I want people like my friend to have access to books", but lol if it just turns out he had another convenient vision and made the library have this rule. Like half of it does sound like a very specific vision led him to this, but also "Dominic believed in equal rights for mongrelfolk because he had a friend once and is just that kind of a guy". But yeah there is no reason for this entire scene other than for people to creepily dote on Snout. And yeah libraries tend to have special collections of rare books, but there's rarely a waitlist because, well, you can't take them out, you have to read it there. It's hard to really critique this because on the one hand, old-timey libraries absolutely could be pretty strict, but on the other, this is really so close to modernity as to make no difference. That said, in the past whenever they've gotten close to the mystery of the Legacy of Dominic Deegan, Mookie has gotten stuck and blown things up and sent us all on some other diversion, so I'm at least vaguely curious as to what will happen next to distract us from the empty space at the center of the story.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Like half of it does sound like a very specific vision led him to this, but also "Dominic believed in equal rights for mongrelfolk because he had a friend once and is just that kind of a guy". But not enough to build a building for the Wild Edge library. Or, you know, fund any kind of infrastructure for them.
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CodfishCartographer posted:So I'm new to mocking DD. I have been aware for a long while that the comic is bad and roughly why it's bad - reading Beelzebufo's posts covering the original comic has been very entertaining and educational, so thanks for that! I probably won't read through all of Snout's stuff cus boy is it boring, but I have skimmed through some of the early stuff and the recent stuff. Welcome to the mock-thread, friend. Much like you, this thread and Beelzebufo's posts have helped explain to me why Mookie is such a loving hack. The other weird thing about the whole "NO DIALOGUE!" thing is that when this comic first started, there's at least a semblance of effort put into showing Snout do things that interacts with the world around him. But as soon as he meets a character he has to 'talk' to, that's when Mookie got lazy and had him write to the other person so Mookie has less to draw per page.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Oh yeah that's right, Stunt's backstory changes from "I slit my mama's throat because all women are evil" to "I walked in on her having lesbian sex and the shock caused me to trip and fall on her with a knife." wasn't it even worse and snout's mom's lover pushed her out a window or something stupid like that? but yes, in dominic deegan a man who loves murdering women is more deserving of redemption than a woman who cheated on her boyfriend once
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a cartoon duck posted:wasn't it even worse and snout's mom's lover pushed her out a window or something stupid like that? but yes, in dominic deegan a man who loves murdering women is more deserving of redemption than a woman who cheated on her boyfriend once Dying makes women sexier, cheating doesn’t.
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Jul 9, 2021 13:08
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Books keep mongrelfolk from turning into jocks.
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Jul 9, 2021 13:19
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Calling it now: This comic will end with Snout meeting Mookie. Not Dominic, Mookie.
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a cartoon duck posted:wasn't it even worse and snout's mom's lover pushed her out a window or something stupid like that? but yes, in dominic deegan a man who loves murdering women is more deserving of redemption than a woman who cheated on her boyfriend once Stunt's mother fled from her abusive husband (who practices some more conservative religion to make Luanians look better. It was never mentioned prior to this and is never mentioned again) to the arms of her lover Lizzie. Stunt caught them sitting together on the bed with four feet on the ground fully clothed, his misogyny went into maximum overdrive and he came at Lizzie with a knife but slipped on a banana peel and fatally stabbed his mother in the tits which inflated and gushed blood everywhere. She hung on long enough to verbally say she didn't blame him and none of this was his fault (of course) and then perished. I think Stunt went out the window to escape before the dad came back, but I don't remember anyone being thrown out a window. We'll see soon enough though since I think we finish this arc, then it's Nimmel House, and then Eldariat to Die. . Rotten Red Rod posted:Now the wild edge library being in the middle of nowhere makes even less sense, even as a gag. Why wouldn't it be at Mongreltown? Because Mookie didn't make up Mongreltown til later. Invisible Clergy fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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This thing right here at the library is stupid, but I actually like Dominic donating his works to a random library in the rear end end of nowhere because his gift of prophesy lets him know it's going to be important many years later. I feel like a seer should always be doing weird, inscrutable things because the future demands it.
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