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Oof. At least Dragonmeet isn't until late November/December. Maybe it will all be over by then (one way or another). I certainly won't be going if it isn't and they also gently caress around with mask policy.
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Yeah, we were never going to be ready for UKGE. I was cautiously optimistic for Dragonmeet but the Tories' insistence on 'gently caress it, let 'em die' as official policy means that we may be in the middle of another lockdown come November.
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lilljonas posted:Sell deadpool, stormtrooper or pokemon masks or whatever and watch the free money pile up. e: I kind of want one that says that now
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Jul 9, 2021 10:05
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I put on my mask and wizard hat.
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Jul 9, 2021 11:28
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GenCon is pulling the same poo poo https://twitter.com/Gen_Con/status/1413247658580496392
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Jul 9, 2021 12:07
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potatocubed posted:Yeah, we were never going to be ready for UKGE. I was cautiously optimistic for Dragonmeet but the Tories' insistence on 'gently caress it, let 'em die' as official policy means that we may be in the middle of another lockdown come November. You think it'll take to November?At the current rate of increase I'm not sure we'll make it through August.
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potatocubed posted:Yeah, we were never going to be ready for UKGE. I was cautiously optimistic for Dragonmeet but the Tories' insistence on 'gently caress it, let 'em die' as official policy means that we may be in the middle of another lockdown come November. If the Tories are keen enough on "gently caress it, let 'em die" then they won't bother calling another lockdown...
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alg posted:GenCon is pulling the same poo poo
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Jul 9, 2021 18:38
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If this stuff makes you guys mad you should get a load of the entire city of Las Vegas. Corporate America has finally decided that COVID is over, and if the Delta variant explodes as predicted it's not clear to me that the ship will come back into the harbor even then, because red states are way past giving a gently caress.
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Jul 9, 2021 18:47
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Zereth posted:Ah, so it's okay for two groups to go without masks: The vaccinated, and liars. Pretty much. My workplace has the same policy starting this week and mysteriously, nobody is wearing any masks at all, not even the people who up until Friday were vocal about refusing vaccination, but apparently somehow got two shots over the weekend. And this is with copies of everyone's vaccination cards on file (by their consent, refusing to provide it is allowed but considered the same as not vaccinated). Gen Con won't even have that. Enforcement is going to be a nightmare.
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Jul 9, 2021 19:03
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Did either of you actually bother to read the announcement?
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Jul 9, 2021 19:08
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Toshimo posted:Did either of you actually bother to read the announcement? Yeah, and I'm in this same state, watching every attempt at documentation and tracking vaccination statuses fail even when you aren't dealing with thousands of strangers who can just take the bloody mask off and think they won't get caught. You seriously underestimate the resistance involved here. I gave my example because we have under threat of termination of employment zero compliance with a mask policy that has the same documentation requirements and procedures, with the sole difference being "wristbands" vs "list distributed to managers of who is approved". If the latter isn't being enforced, the former wouldn't be either at our management:staff ratio. And that's with a sub 1:10 ratio between people monitoring and being monitored, and direct line of sight at all times. I highly doubt GenCon is pulling thousands of rent-a-cops to conduct mask policing. The only remotely effective step is "proof of vaccination or medical exemption, or you don't enter". Short of that they'll be spending more effort on enforcement than on the rest of the event combined if it's going to work, or more likely, it's just not going to work. e: I take off my mask and have both hands in my pockets up past the wrist. Are you going to stop me to check status? Are you going to stop every single person with their hands in their pockets every time a rent-a-cop sees that? It rapidly spirals into unmanageable. SkyeAuroline fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jul 9, 2021 19:20
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if theme park compliance is anything to go by, Gencon will be mostly maskless. there's no reason to say anyone can go maskless at all.
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alg posted:if theme park compliance is anything to go by, Gencon will be mostly maskless. there's no reason to say anyone can go maskless at all.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:09
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If you choose to go somewhere like that unvaccinated you have chosen to embrace death anyway. I personally would wear a mask at Gencon even though I am fully vaccinated, but I feel like at this point in America anyone who wants to be vaccinated is.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:27
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Lord_Hambrose posted:If you choose to go somewhere like that unvaccinated you have chosen to embrace death anyway. I personally would wear a mask at Gencon even though I am fully vaccinated, but I feel like at this point in America anyone who wants to be vaccinated is. If you are exclusively talking about white folks, maybe. Vaccine access has been a lot iffier in some communities, especially in certain states.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:31
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Lord_Hambrose posted:If you choose to go somewhere like that unvaccinated you have chosen to embrace death anyway. I personally would wear a mask at Gencon even though I am fully vaccinated, but I feel like at this point in America anyone who wants to be vaccinated is.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:33
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I think if I saw the lovely rules GenCon has embraced, I wouldn't take kids to it But that's just me
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Jul 9, 2021 20:37
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Definitely shouldn't be going to cons period, but not really a cool thing to say that someone without the autonomy to refuse attendance deserves it because they just don't want to be vaccinated.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:38
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Plastic Soldier Company announced they were skipping the UK games expo over the covid policy, I imagine a lot of other companies are as well. Conventions were mass infection sites before covid. The decision to attend Gencon will literally kill people this year.
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Jul 9, 2021 20:45
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What. The. gently caress. This is a comedy at this point. TSR is back! Michael apparently is real! https://www.enworld.org/threads/just-when-you-thought-it-was-all-over-now-there%E2%80%99s-a-fourth-tsr.681245/
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Jul 9, 2021 20:54
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dwarf74 posted:What. The. gently caress. Man I can't believe this thing keeps topping itself.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:02
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If they can't keep it safe, gencon should not be run, and folks should boycott this.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:04
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dwarf74 posted:What. The. gently caress.
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StratGoatCom posted:If they can't keep it safe, gencon should not be run, and folks should boycott this. They can't keep it safe, but enough people disbelieve COVID that any boycott will fail.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:08
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Terrible Opinions posted:You do realize no vaccine has been approved for people under 12 yet right? Oh definitely. Too bad kids can't go to Gencon but it is just one of those things. Mors Rattus posted:If you are exclusively talking about white folks, maybe. Vaccine access has been a lot iffier in some communities, especially in certain states. This is fair, for sure.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:11
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Michael K. Hovermale sounds like a made up name an alien would use.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:13
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Kurieg posted:Michael K. Hovermale sounds like a made up name an alien would use. "Josh Boyfriend, who is handsome like a F-22 fighter jet" - Thundercracker
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Vaccines aren't 100% effective (a 95% effectiveness means, you could roll a d20 and if you roll a natural 1, you get infected, you'd think RPG nerds could internalize that) and vaccinated people can be carriers, and people who attend gencon - vaccinated or not - can carry the virus to unvaccinated people, such as children, even if they are personally asymptomatic. Unless/until we reach a total population vaccination rate that accomplishes effective "herd immunity" - and that may be impossible with variants continuing to pop up - it is not "safe" to gather lots of people together and allow unvaccinated people to go unmasked among them. Individuals who have no contact with children, people who cannot be vaccinated (rare, but possible - there are people with allergies to vaccine components for example), recent immigrants from countries with little or no vaccination, immunocompromised individuals for whom vaccination may be less or non effective, etc, can make a personal choice whether or not to expose themselves. But that group is tiny. The vast majority of people are capable of being spreaders. Despite the relaxation of mask mandates, it remains irresponsible to gather people indoors in large groups with no actual or effective mask mandate. Nevertheless, that's what's happening and will continue to happen. I think it's reasonable to predict that at least one person will die because of gencon's policy. Not necessarily an attendee. Impossible to prove, inflammatory, sure, but defensible on the basis of statistics and facts about vaccine function and infection rates. If you're vaccinated, and you decide to attend gencon, I'd encourage you to consider wearing a mask, even if you're the only one around doing it. If people ask, tell them you intend to model effective behavior, help unvaccinated or vulnerable people to feel "normal" when wearing a mask, and protect unvaccinated people you might encounter in the next two weeks, since even vaccinated there's a small but nonzero chance you could become a carrier.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:20
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I like the bit where TSR now have no products.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:21
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Kurieg posted:Michael K. Hovermale sounds like a made up name an alien would use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-riNIqqtIRc
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Jul 9, 2021 21:22
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Given this TSR stuff I've got a question: how easy is it for a trademark to lapse? Poking around online it looks like one form at 5-6 years, another at 9-10, and then every 10 years afterward accompanied by a fee of $200-$300. I can understand something being lost for some big collection company or squatter dealing with hundreds of the things, but when it's one trademark that your whole business is based on? Set an alarm, you've got a year and a half (there's a six-month grace period) to do it, "we're still using the trademark, here's a list of our products with it as proof, and here's a check", you're done.
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Bruceski posted:Given this TSR stuff I've got a question: how easy is it for a trademark to lapse? Poking around online it looks like one form at 5-6 years, another at 9-10, and then every 10 years afterward accompanied by a fee of $200-$300. I can understand something being lost for some big collection company or squatter dealing with hundreds of the things, but when it's one trademark that your whole business is based on? Set an alarm, you've got a year and a half (there's a six-month grace period) to do it, "we're still using the trademark, here's a list of our products with it as proof, and here's a check", you're done. In most years? Probably pretty hard to forget. Last year was 2020.
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Bruceski posted:Given this TSR stuff I've got a question: how easy is it for a trademark to lapse? Poking around online it looks like one form at 5-6 years, another at 9-10, and then every 10 years afterward accompanied by a fee of $200-$300. I can understand something being lost for some big collection company or squatter dealing with hundreds of the things, but when it's one trademark that your whole business is based on? Set an alarm, you've got a year and a half (there's a six-month grace period) to do it, "we're still using the trademark, here's a list of our products with it as proof, and here's a check", you're done. Nu White Wolf managed to let the Gangrel trademark lapse, somehow.
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Jul 9, 2021 21:27
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Forgetting a thing that happens every 10 years is remarkably easy.
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Kurieg posted:Nu White Wolf managed to let the Gangrel trademark lapse, somehow. Does this mean it goes to the wrestler now?
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Jul 9, 2021 21:37
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Yeah, we found out because he registered it in his name.
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Mors Rattus posted:I like the bit where TSR now have no products. Technically, they never did.
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dwarf74 posted:What. The. gently caress. "Join our community of Game Designer's" edit: also there is a product called "My Name is Chezza not Pizza," which is also spelled "My Name is Cheezza not Pizza." homullus fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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