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net work error posted:Maybe I'm the outlier because I'm not a big fan of Unicorn I appreciate that Massive Spoilers the secret of the box was the TOPSECRET_RealSpaceConstitution_Final_Final2_USETHISONE.pdf and not some “the friends you made along the way” crap, even if the idea of it being the real constitution is also dumb. Hathaway of course proves that this obviously wouldn’t materially change anything so the events of Unicorn have not affected anything by the events of Hathaway. The “At the Bottom of the Gravity Well” also has a lot fun action largely separate from the main plot. I also appreciate Origins for finally depicting super important events in the backstory after being vaguely referred to for 40 years.
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I haven't read Hathaway's Flash, but Gundam Hathaway doesn't necessarily present a world where nothing has changed vis a vis spacenoids vs. the Earth sphere. Even if spacenoids are more actively integrated into the Federation's power structure, it still doesn't change the Federation's relationship to the common person on Earth or in space. Laplace's Box can bring closure on 100 years of earther-spacenoid conflict, but not the underlying causes of conflict generally.
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KidDynamite posted:i want to watch hathaway but i only saw char's revenge once and don't remember it. should i watch all the uc stuff before hand? netflix has everything right? Pulcinella posted:I appreciate that Massive Spoilers the secret of the box was the TOPSECRET_RealSpaceConstitution_Final_Final2_USETHISONE.pdf and not some “the friends you made along the way” crap, even if the idea of it being the real constitution is also dumb. Hathaway of course proves that this obviously wouldn’t materially change anything so the events of Unicorn have not affected anything by the events of Hathaway. guess what bitch
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also Gundam unicorn was written by an irl fascist so the secret constitution thing has a bit of pro-imperial revisionism to it
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Bro Dad posted:also Gundam unicorn was written by an irl fascist so the secret constitution thing has a bit of pro-imperial revisionism to it
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TenementFunster posted:i was getting ready to assume you were extaggerating until I found this 16-year-old NYT article calling him The Japanese Tom Clancy so now I believe you without question. That's probably why the fights are so badass. The way Clancyesque weapons porn bogs down a text in excessive detail is completely neutralized through a visual medium, where the attention to detail helps more than it hinders.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:That's probably why the fights are so badass. The way Clancyesque weapons porn bogs down a text in excessive detail is completely neutralized through a visual medium, where the attention to detail helps more than it hinders.
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i saw CCA for the first time a couple years ago and its way overrated. quess and hathaway are insufferable and it's not that well animated
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Relin posted:i saw CCA for the first time a couple years ago and its way overrated. quess and hathaway are insufferable and it's not that well animated
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this just a gut feel but has any gundam impacted a young audience anymore since maybe wing or seed? even 00 seemed to have missed its mark itr
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Relin posted:it's not that well animated the rest i can get but what atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 12:25 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Quess being the dumbest character in Gundam is kind of the point. She's 13 years old and Char immediately starts playing the angles on how he can get her to pilot a superweapon.
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TenementFunster posted:it also means a lot more one-off robot variants that got 3 seconds of screen time that can be sold as toy kits! The Byarlant scene was so cool they made a manga series explaining who the pilot was and why he was in a loving Byarlant 
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The Byarlant Custom scene is crazy because it's so atypical for Federation mobile suit designs, and completely turns the tide of the attack on Torrington singlehandedly, despite knowing nothing about where it came from or who is piloting it. Visually it's really cool, but it's bad writing to have all the Zeon remnants who have been built up for the whole episode get immediately owned by a Deus ex Machina with no setup at all.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Byarlant Custom scene is crazy because it's so atypical for Federation mobile suit designs, and completely turns the tide of the attack on Torrington singlehandedly, despite knowing nothing about where it came from or who is piloting it. Visually it's really cool, but it's bad writing to have all the Zeon remnants who have been built up for the whole episode get immediately owned by a Deus ex Machina with no setup at all. I mean, something was going to turn the tide. The whole attack on Torrington Base was basically just a last hurrah for the remaining Zeon Remnants on earth, to give the Sleeves cover to get the Unicorn there and unlock the next stop for the Laplace Box. The buildup they got in the episode also showed that they were using mostly ancient OYW Suits. And the Byarlant wasn't the only unexpected thing, their big trump card, the Shamblo, went off course when the pilot went crazy. If Byarlant guy hadn't been there and Zeon had been able to neutralize all opposition at the base, all that would've gotten them is some time to retreat before Federation reinforcements arrived. I don't think a single exceptional pilot in an outdated Suit is an unbelievable thing to be at the base. It also works in a meta level with to the Zeon Remnants. They have all those weird old Zeon suits like the drat Zogok, and then, surprise, the Federation had some weird ones too.
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Gripweed posted:I mean, something was going to turn the tide. The whole attack on Torrington Base was basically just a last hurrah for the remaining Zeon Remnants on earth, to give the Sleeves cover to get the Unicorn there and unlock the next stop for the Laplace Box. The buildup they got in the episode also showed that they were using mostly ancient OYW Suits. And the Byarlant wasn't the only unexpected thing, their big trump card, the Shamblo, went off course when the pilot went crazy. If Byarlant guy hadn't been there and Zeon had been able to neutralize all opposition at the base, all that would've gotten them is some time to retreat before Federation reinforcements arrived. The problem with the whole situation isn't that it's implausible, it's that it comes completely out of nowhere. In a way you'd expect to have been done by a named character. Then the Byarlant just disappears along with its mystery pilot, without fanfare. It's the most blatant bit of toy advertising in the series. The Shamblo's pilot was also established to be emotionally unstable, so it's not like that was unexpected either.
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I don’t think I’ve ever finished a Gundam series. e: well I watched Wing on toonami so maybe I saw most of it. maybe about half of G, an episode of 00 and then I think like ten episodes of the original
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christmas boots posted:I don’t think I’ve ever finished a Gundam series. I think the original series never actually finished airing on Toonami. It was a few episodes from the end when  happened.The first season of 00 has pretty tight pacing. Feels like there are pretty significant plot advancements every episode. I like the second season but it takes all the minor but technically named characters from the first season and gives them significant arcs while the main characters twiddle their thumbs for a dozen episodes.
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watched promare and that guy is definitely kamina. youre not fooling me
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atelier morgan posted:the rest i can get but what Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Byarlant Custom scene is crazy because it's so atypical for Federation mobile suit designs, and completely turns the tide of the attack on Torrington singlehandedly, despite knowing nothing about where it came from or who is piloting it. Visually it's really cool, but it's bad writing to have all the Zeon remnants who have been built up for the whole episode get immediately owned by a Deus ex Machina with no setup at all. Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Shamblo's pilot was also established to be emotionally unstable, so it's not like that was unexpected either. TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 21:39 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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the adult swim promo for char's counterattack is still good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9LQhyBYSeg also the last saturday night anime adult swim ever aired
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goddamn I need to watch the Doraemon movie https://twitter.com/randomsakuga/status/1413075386653712385?s=20
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Gripweed posted:goddamn I need to watch the Doraemon movie this reminds me that masaaki yuasa directed a bunch of shin-chan stuff, weird as hell
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Man, Wonder Egg's first couple eps are extremely strong except for the sexism from those puppet men
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pillsburysoldier posted:Man, Wonder Egg's first couple eps are extremely strong except for the sexism from those puppet men when you scratch off the thin shiny layer of cool animation and character designs it's a nasty core of  the author has some interesting takes on things
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I think IBO left an impression on the youth in Japan. I have no idea how the youth of the west feel.Bro Dad posted:
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pillsburysoldier posted:Man, Wonder Egg's first couple eps are extremely strong except for the sexism from those puppet men Early on they have the lines about how boys kill themselves for serious reasons but girls kill themselves over drama. Later they talk to each other about how they can't let the protagonists discover that they're personally responsible for a lot of the suicides. Still no idea what exactly was supposed to be going on with Frill escaping from her Lain cave into the Wired to drive girls to suicide though.
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Should I watch wonder egg despite the turd ending? Y/n/M
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I'd say yes. Even in this thread, we have what I'd say is the my biggest pet peeve of modern criticism: if a character says a bad thing or has a bad belief, that must reflect the author, and therefore the work is wrong. And if you don't show that villain getting their comeuppance, you agree with them. There's basically no place anymore for ambiguity. (spoilers below for WEP) The puppet guys are so obviously the bad guys. they trick the girls and are making them do things. In the last few episodes they're basically twirling their mustaches. However, for reasons I can't understand, everyone has taken them to be the voice of the author. I'm not saying its show of the year, but it's a very interesting and unique premise, and I'm glad that in an industry where everything is becoming more trite and generic they tried something new. It definitely has it's flaws though. The biggest problem is that the studio tortured its workers into the literal hospital (unfortunately commonplace in the industry), and there's no ending, although that should be remedied by an ova at some point, hopefully.
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Bro Dad posted:also the last saturday night anime adult swim ever aired
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adult swim still airs a shitload of anime its just a block rebranded to toonami
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Mirello posted:I'd say yes. Even in this thread, we have what I'd say is the my biggest pet peeve of modern criticism: if a character says a bad thing or has a bad belief, that must reflect the author, and therefore the work is wrong. And if you don't show that villain getting their comeuppance, you agree with them. There's basically no place anymore for ambiguity. (spoilers below for WEP) Pitch has issued a correction as of 11:37 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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i think the guy with a record of writing incredibly stupid poo poo was not playing 3d chess and instead wrote some incredibly stupid poo poo.
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