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FCKGW posted:Agreed. Wood paneling makes sense in a cabin or forest home, not in ocean front property. Sloppy posted:Yeah, the original version had way too much wood. Remodel was a huge improvement. let me introduce you all to the Sea Ranch      It's actually got a really interesting history that could belong in this thread - hippies grew old, design that grew from utopian experimentation became the new rigid traditionalism, house values increased to turn what was supposed to be an eco-commune of sorts into a vacation home enclave like any other in California. Eventually the principles building off vernacular architecture get replaced with just a vague sterilized white-walled "modernism" as seen in the remodel of the Don Jacobs house. https://archive.curbed.com/2019/2/20/18231590/sea-ranch-northern-california-sonoma-county-coast-history https://archive.curbed.com/2019/2/21/18232116/sea-ranch-coastal-commission-oral-history-legacy http://searanch.ced.berkeley.edu/s/sea-ranch/page/home
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I hate modernism so very, very much. 'Tell me you work a white collar job that leaves you with zero ability to enjoy anything aesthetically' the design philosophy. It's like a mayonnaise sandwich.
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Modernism can be lovely - large airy spaces with simple but elegant lines, designed to make use of what you can do with modern building materials and methods. Painting everything inside white is modernism in the same way putting in a reclaimed wood barndoor in your 1970s suburban house makes it a historical building.
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Youth Decay posted:let me introduce you all to the Sea Ranch I appreciate all this information but the wood inside still looked dated and crappy and it looks better now IMO
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7539-Old-Highway-73-Townsend-TN-37882/81000248_zpid/ FYI, this is back on the market for $1.5 MILLION. 
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The Google Streetview is highly informative
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ShotgunWillie posted:FYI, this is back on the market for $1.5 MILLION. p sure at this point its just going to get sold to a rental company for that airbnb instagram demo
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Computer viking posted:Modernism can be lovely - large airy spaces with simple but elegant lines, designed to make use of what you can do with modern building materials and methods. Even then, it's all sterile, empty space that's designed for the person who doesn't actually live in their home so much as come there to sleep, and has someone else to do the cleaning. It's 'high end' hotel room chic.
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Youth Decay posted:hello officer yes I would like to report a crime Prop loom, as there is no other equipment visible, nor anywhere to store it. Even worse than an out of context Chair imo.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Prop loom, as there is no other equipment visible, nor anywhere to store it. Even worse than an out of context Chair imo. Good catch. I don't even see a shuttle.
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Jul 12, 2021 03:35
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 Dear people: Water is heavy. Jot that down somewhere important
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Johnny Aztec posted:
Good thing the propane tank prevented a complete collapse.
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Johnny Aztec posted:
That fell less that I would have expected.
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https://cbs4indy.com/news/more-than-150-bowling-balls-found-underneath-home-during-demo-project/quote:ORTON SHORES, Mich. (AP) — A Michigan man made a striking discovery under his house when he went to demolish his back stairs: about 160 bowling balls. Sure why not, that'd be a decent fill product.
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Hrmm...what was their profit margin like back then that they could scrap out so many balls? lolol the 1950s and Boomers lolol
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Johnny Aztec posted:Hrmm...what was their profit margin like back then that they could scrap out so many balls? Its the 50s I'm sure the accountants in the office were probably drinking as much as or more than the guys on the production floor 
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Johnny Aztec posted:Hrmm...what was their profit margin like back then that they could scrap out so many balls? Bowling is the most popular competitive sport in America by participation, so I assume they made tons and tons of balls annually.
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Johnny Aztec posted:
It's amazing how people frequently underestimate that, despite surely hoisting a gallon of water (or even milk...) and noting its heft numerous times in their lives. ~7 pounds per gallon, you dolts. poo poo's *heavy*.
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This is where the metric system comes in handy because litres (of water) is straight-up kilograms. (Yes I know about whatever it is you're about to Fishmech me with.)
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Darchangel posted:It's amazing how people frequently underestimate that, despite surely hoisting a gallon of water (or even milk...) and noting its heft numerous times in their lives. ~7 pounds per gallon, you dolts. poo poo's *heavy*. 8 1/3 lbs per gallon. This is hammered into your brain as part of fire flow calculations so you aren't collapsing buildings with master streams.
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Motronic posted:8 1/3 lbs per gallon. I’m probably thinking gasoline, from my flight classes many many years ago.
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Motronic posted:8 1/3 lbs per gallon. 1kg/L, to within enough precision for our uses. So a cubic meter is a ton.
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Computer viking posted:1kg/L, to within enough precision for our uses. So a cubic meter is a ton. Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to argue that metric is easier for this, but when you're operating with equipment that is in gallons on structures measured in feet/inches in an environment not conducive to a lot of conversion math, mostly running off of tables (memorized or literally in books/on the pump panel) it all works out fine anyway.
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Motronic posted:Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to argue that metric is easier for this, but when you're operating with equipment that is in gallons on structures measured in feet/inches in an environment not conducive to a lot of conversion math, mostly running off of tables (memorized or literally in books/on the pump panel) it all works out fine anyway. Yeah, doing the conversions to and from metric sounds like more work and more chance of errors, by all means. It's still useful as a reminder - a cubic meter doesn't sound like that much, but it's a lot of weight. For a non-metric approximation, a cubic yard isn't that far from a ton, either. (No matter if you use the short, long, or metric ton; they're close enough as a first approximation).
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Computer viking posted:Yeah, doing the conversions to and from metric sounds like more work and more chance of errors, by all means. Yeah, that kinda works for cubic yards too. It's not quite a ton, but it's close. Like 1600 lbs from memory. If you're using it on the fly to keep things from collapsing just calling it a full ton is probably of benefit.
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Motronic posted:Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to argue that metric is easier for this, but when you're operating with equipment that is in gallons on structures measured in feet/inches in an environment not conducive to a lot of conversion math, mostly running off of tables (memorized or literally in books/on the pump panel) it all works out fine anyway. Like in the picture?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Like in the picture? Like in the picture what? In no way was even a passing consideration given to load calculations whether the units were gallons, liters or rods and hogsheads.
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Motronic posted:Like in the picture what? Like in the picture my balls.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Like in the picture my balls. Your balls hold a cubic meter of water? I know pee is stored in the balls and all that but dude, you probably should get that checked out.
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Computer viking posted:1kg/L, to within enough precision for our uses. So a cubic meter is a ton. or one pint = 1 pound
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Tunicate posted:or one pint = 1 pound 16 oz = 16 oz, you say?
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Motronic posted:Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to argue that metric is easier for this, but when you're operating with equipment that is in gallons on structures measured in feet/inches in an environment not conducive to a lot of conversion math, mostly running off of tables (memorized or literally in books/on the pump panel) it all works out fine anyway. Unless you're fueling for Air Canada 
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Johnny Aztec posted:
At least the ATV looks unharmed. Also, load bearing propane tank: Stronger or weaker than load bearing drywall?
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ulmont posted:16 oz = 16 oz, you say? Unless you're in the UK! I was taught "A pint's a pound the world around", and it is a LIE. Imperial pints are 20 ounces.
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Darchangel posted:It's amazing how people frequently underestimate that, despite surely hoisting a gallon of water (or even milk...) and noting its heft numerous times in their lives. ~7 pounds per gallon, you dolts. poo poo's *heavy*. I bought a long, narrow aquarium and I need a long, narrow table for it, like one of those behind the couch console tables, but it needs to support 120+ lbs and I've been having a hell of a time. I have an old high school classmate who makes custom tables and stuff but he said he's not taking commissions until lumber prices fall. If you know of a nice looking table that's approx 36 inches long and 12-14 inches wide that can hold that much, please let me know.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I bought a long, narrow aquarium and I need a long, narrow table for it, like one of those behind the couch console tables, but it needs to support 120+ lbs and I've been having a hell of a time. I have an old high school classmate who makes custom tables and stuff but he said he's not taking commissions until lumber prices fall. 120+ pounds isn't too bad. I'd guess that any solid wood 1" or thicker, or any plywood .75" or thicker, could support that so long as it had either a leg in the middle (in addition to the legs on the ends of course), or an apron running the length of the table. Just don't use MDF or melamine or other similar materials.
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I've been looking on Wayfair and Ikea and everything is like "max load 55lb" or industrially ugly.
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Right, because those are made out of veneered MDF with an absolute minimum of material to save on costs. Great for very specific uses that aren't yours. What tools do you have? Some pine boards and a pocket hole jig, plus an appropriate saw to cut things to length, are all you really need.
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My dad has an entire basement/garage/shed full of tools, but this is going in my office and I'd like it to look nice. I don't have any woodworking skills.
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