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I basically had Paris syndrome when I got to go to Tokyo as a kid. That place is boring as hell outside of a couple streets and the people were rude, it's the London of Asia Looking back that probably is the moment I turned away from going full weeb. Amazing food though, had the best curry of my life from a human vending machine on a train platform * I got to go to Seoul too and that's much nicer * realised this is besmirching the Thai van outside my old work, its a draw Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Easy to forget that when most of this thread were teenagers there wasn't such a thing as "incel culture", & what incel culture basically did was build an ideologically sexist belief structure around perfectly normal teenaged thoughts like "I am sad that the girl I like prefers someone better looking than me even though he's kind of a dick" (as most teenaged boys are). There's a bunch of stuff which is hard to enjoy with hindsight, but we didn't have the benefit of hindsight at the time so  Jaeluni Asjil posted:This last point. I cringe with embarrasment when I think of some of the 'jokes' and comments we used to tell/make at work in the 90s, 00s. Especially with colleagues who have since come out as gay. It must have been awful for them sometimes joining in the 'bantz'. 
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Jul 13, 2021 11:00
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It's not a new phenomenon either: I was reading a novel (They Came to Baghdad) by Agatha Christie published in 1951 where Our Heroine fetches up in Baghdad expecting a mysterious city of the east only to be disappointed that it was a bustling, noisy, messy, modern city.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:01
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Speaking of Grease, there was an advert on TV only a few years ago with a male cover of You're The One That I Want, and he changed the lyrics to "You better shape up/'cause you need a man/and my heart is set on you" and holy poo poo, I don't know how that didn't cause a bigger stir. Can't remember what it was for now, probably a car or coffee or something.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:12
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Speaking of Grease, there was an advert on TV only a few years ago with a male cover of You're The One That I Want, and he changed the lyrics to "You better shape up/'cause you need a man/and my heart is set on you" and holy poo poo, I don't know how that didn't cause a bigger stir. Chanel No. 5 I think. https://vimeo.com/109013805 With that horrible breathy singing normally done by women singing in adverts. That ad is terrible! Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Jul 13, 2021 11:16
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Borrovan posted:About half of this thread were teenagers when South Park was big, and so spent years of our lives laughing along to obviously racist jokes because no, you don't understand, it's because the joke is so stupid that it's a joke about racism & how stupid it is. Then we noticed that half of the people laughing along were literally nazis, and it stopped being funny. I guess nazis weren't back in such a big way back then either & a lot of us have punched a lot of nazis since to make up for it, but jfc we weren't half a bunch of cunts when I was younger & I am sorry to the world at large And it didn't help that South Park itself confused edgy with offensive quite a few times when the creators were unaware of their own biases, which was no small part of "if you care* you lose" culture and Guavanaut posted:all that "Enjoy the Decline" and "Curse of the High IQ" poo poo where being an abrasive rear end in a top hat went from being a Tucker Max/Maddox style gimmick to actual career advice by people who bought into the surface uncritically, before the world saw that that just gets you Donald Trump? *offer not extended to free speech for white men, always care about that over and above everything else ever.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:18
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Borrovan posted:Easy to forget that when most of this thread were teenagers there wasn't such a thing as "incel culture", & what incel culture basically did was build an ideologically sexist belief structure around perfectly normal teenaged thoughts like "I am sad that the girl I like prefers someone better looking than me even though he's kind of a dick" (as most teenaged boys are). There's a bunch of stuff which is hard to enjoy with hindsight, but we didn't have the benefit of hindsight at the time so Arrested adolescence is a big part of incel culture, though I'm pretty sure a lot of that is also sheltered, neglected and isolated suburban boys who basically stopped having socialisation once they graduated school and struggled to find any new outlet that wasn't online. The suburbs gently caress people up.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:38
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I am to this day embarrassed at some of the time awful bigoted incel-adjacent poo poo I said as a teenage edgelord. Honestly I would be cancelled so quickly. I guess I'd have to just front it out and say yes, I was a piece of poo poo. No no you don't get it I don't really mean it it's an ironic use of the n bomb if you're mad at me you just don't get how smart I am. Mind, I think at the time I probably believed my own bullshit, this was long before it all got wrapped up into under the alt right umbrella, but I really should have seen the writing on the wall. I think one of the first times I started really questioning myself was when a 'friend' cheerfully told me that he would never be playing GTA San Andreas - an objectively great game - because he thought 'those people' were 'scum'. He wasn't mad at the criminality - he'd loved Vice City and couldn't get enough of Italian mafia films. Weird stuff! I jumped ship pretty quick when I realised that a lot of these people were absolutely not joking about their extreme beliefs to wind people up as part of the genius trolling operation I'd thought I'd been part of.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:45
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I never watched south park and tbh I don't get why people like it.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:49
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OwlFancier posted:I never watched south park and tbh I don't get why people like it. It was funny. There was an element of transgression at the time that was appealing, but mostly it was just funny at a time comedy output was My Family & My Hero & Game On Whether it holds up, IDK. Don't really want to go and rewatch it to find out, I have my memories.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:54
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South Park was great before it got caught up in doing multi-part stories every series. Some of the older series still stand up.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:56
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stev posted:I always assumed there was a similar phenomenon for people who visit London expecting a beautiful sprawling vista made up of London Eye, St Pauls, Big Ben and Buckingham Palace and end up walking through literally any part of North, South or East London. I remember when I did a London holiday (because I realised it was a bit stupid that I'd lived my entire life within walking distance of the Tower and never actually visited it) and was earwigging an American couple on the London Eye who were having the shocking realisation of just how close together all of those places - even St. Paul's - actually are, and they'd never been more than a couple of miles from their hotel which was somewhere around the BT Tower despite spending hours on the tube. Also I often wonder about the Mancunian-sounding women also in the pod who were trying to work out where the MI5 building was (Spooks fans maybe?) and what they thought about some bloke dressed all in black who interjected into their conversation, pointed out exactly where the spy HQ was (and how they could walk there from the Eye), then went back to taking pictures in the opposite direction with a very long lens.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:56
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Always makes me laugh as to why MI5 thought it a great idea to have a huge ostentatious head office in the middle of London and on the river near loads of tourist attractions and then get extremely weird about people taking pictures nearby.
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Jul 13, 2021 11:58
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OwlFancier posted:I never watched south park and tbh I don't get why people like it. Now, it's like the The Simpsons in the sense of "wait, that's still on?" where nobody you know has watched a new episode for literally decades, yet somehow they're still being produced. Edit: I was stopped by two armed coppers for a "casual chat" (with my wife and baby) after taking a photo of MI6's headquarters from the Thames Path.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:00
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I'm so glad I got all my edge lord trolling out of the way pre MySpace and no one will ever dig up my posts.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:02
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forkboy84 posted:It was funny. There was an element of transgression at the time that was appealing, but mostly it was just funny at a time comedy output was My Family & My Hero & Game On Up to season 5 or so, before they disappeared up their own arses, still holds up, and there are some occasional good ones in the later series. I stopped watching when they started doing the "write and record it the week of transmission" thing which would have been around 2010, I think? From that point on it's exactly as funny as you'd expect fart jokes written about a news story that was already fading from memory would be. You know what transgressive comedy from the 90s *does* hold up? Beavis and Butthead. Because it never at any point attempted to pretend like anyone in the entire show was anything but a complete idiot, and because 90s music video tropes are still as ridiculous as they ever were. I maybe should be more worried about how perfectly my musical taste matches up with a caricature of idiot American teenagers but ultimately they're right, Snoop Dogg and GWAR and fire *are* cool and Britain *is* that country where everything sucks. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Jul 13, 2021 12:04
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I was really pissed off with Channel 5 in about 1998 when they cancelled Xena half way through series 4 leading me to spend over £300 on the entire 6 series boxset of VHS. Now you can just download the lot for free. That's the last time I buy a boxed set! Wow, I haven't seen the term "boxed set" used to correctly describe a literal physical boxed set in so many years, it brings a tear to my eyes. Now it's just used to describe a show being on Netflix or whatever (often even when they don't have the whole show).
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Jul 13, 2021 12:06
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Flayer posted:Always makes me laugh as to why MI5 thought it a great idea to have a huge ostentatious head office in the middle of London and on the river near loads of tourist attractions and then get extremely weird about people taking pictures nearby. Maybe that's not the REAL MI5 and they're based in a bunker under the New Addington Hills or something. (A long-ago friend's husband was part of an engineering contract installing air conditioning to some sort of nuclear bunker under a hill near Croydon in the late 70s/early 80s - apparently different contractors were awarded different parts of the work to make sure none of them had the whole picture.) Marmaduke! posted:Wow, I haven't seen the term "boxed set" used to correctly describe a literal physical boxed set in so many years, it brings a tear to my eyes. Now it's just used to describe a show being on Netflix or whatever (often even when they don't have the whole show). I also had the boxed set of The Water Margin  I did torrent it a few years ago and it kept getting stuck at 99%. Eventually I found another stream for it. There's rapey bits in that (off screen) which entirely passed me by as a teen - I was in love with Lin Chung, and wanted to be Hu San-niang (the girl who fought with two swords). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Jul 13, 2021 12:10
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Beavis and Butthead really is absolutely brilliant and stands up very well. It's surprisingly non-lovely too for the most part. South Park should have stayed in its lane and stuck with what they were best at, which is experimenting with the medium, general surrealism, and toilet humour. The episodes where the kids were just being kids were great. I'll always have an enormous soft spot for stuff like Good Times with Weapons. Or the amazing Major Boobage
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Jul 13, 2021 12:12
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https://twitter.com/LoyalDefender2K/status/1414861790333349892?s=20 the loving replies hahaha
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Jul 13, 2021 12:12
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:(A long-ago friend's husband was part of an engineering contract installing air conditioning to some sort of nuclear bunker under a hill near Croydon in the late 70s/early 80s - apparently different contractors were awarded different parts of the work to make sure none of them had the whole picture.) The same approach used by pharoahs and H.H.Holmes, can't argue with the results
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Jul 13, 2021 12:12
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Marmaduke! posted:Wow, I haven't seen the term "boxed set" used to correctly describe a literal physical boxed set in so many years, it brings a tear to my eyes. Now it's just used to describe a show being on Netflix or whatever (often even when they don't have the whole show). We had a Stars Wars VHS boxed set when I was a kid, and the cardboard sleeve made a fart noise when you put the tapes back in it. That was one of my favourite parts of the original trilogy.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:15
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mrpwase posted:We had a Stars Wars VHS boxed set when I was a kid, and the cardboard sleeve made a fart noise when you put the tapes back in it. That was one of my favourite parts of the original trilogy.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:19
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Payndz posted:George Lucas taking notes for the prequels: "Kids... farts... funny. Got it." That's how you end up with a tertiary character called like Queef Betamax
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Jul 13, 2021 12:20
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Maybe that's not the REAL MI5 and they're based in a bunker under the New Addington Hills or something. MI5 are pretty chill about people taking pictures as long as you don't point your camera at Certain Locations or people coming in and out, MI6 are dickheads about it and still don't officially acknowledge Vauxhall Cross despite it being in two Bond films now, and GCHQ still don't even acknowledge they have a building in London (although they did finally avow Palmer Street on the day they moved out). Anyway the MI5 bunkers are in %*£)£+++NO CARRIER
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Jul 13, 2021 12:20
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After 5 years, Horror Channel have recently stopped rerunning Star Trek original at 6pm every night  :wheresthecryingoneIcanneverfindwhenIwantit:I was very fond of it. It marked the transition from afternoon to evening. OK I have the whole lot on computer so could watch it any time, but I just like to watch stuff on tv sometimes without having to have the 'puter on. (Roku streaming needs me to put the puter on).
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Jul 13, 2021 12:23
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The secret is never turn puter off
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Jul 13, 2021 12:24
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Payndz posted:George Lucas taking notes for the prequels: "Kids... farts... funny. Got it." I mean, at least it's not a racist caricature or anything 
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Jul 13, 2021 12:24
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Flayer posted:Always makes me laugh as to why MI5 thought it a great idea to have a huge ostentatious head office in the middle of London and on the river near loads of tourist attractions and then get extremely weird about people taking pictures nearby. It's so secret it's disguised as the MI6 headquarters.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's not a new phenomenon either: I was reading a novel (They Came to Baghdad) by Agatha Christie published in 1951 where Our Heroine fetches up in Baghdad expecting a mysterious city of the east only to be disappointed that it was a bustling, noisy, messy, modern city. I mean, Americans sometimes rock up here in London expecting, like, horse drawn carriages, pea souper fogs, Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes, so it does at least go both ways.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:24
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Borrovan posted:no, you don't understand, it's because the joke is so stupid that it's a joke about racism & how stupid it is. I actually wrote a piece of GCSE coursework (General Studies I think, whatever that was) making this exact argument in defence of poo poo like South Park and Little Britain. What sort of insufferable little oval office would do that.  I did get an A* though, which is incredibly worrying.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:25
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goddamnedtwisto posted:MI5 are pretty chill about people taking pictures as long as you don't point your camera at Certain Locations or people coming in and out, MI6 are dickheads about it and still don't officially acknowledge Vauxhall Cross despite it being in two Bond films now, and GCHQ still don't even acknowledge they have a building in London (although they did finally avow Palmer Street on the day they moved out). I know we've mentioned this before at some point - which agency was in that building over Euston Square station? I remember my boss and I going to look at it (after it had been vacated obviously!) with a view to purchase/lease and there was a completely sound-proof room in there, whether for torture or hush hush debriefs I don't know.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:26
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Barry Foster posted:South Park should have stayed in its lane and stuck with what they were best at, which is experimenting with the medium, general surrealism, and toilet humour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb31BaODdgw&t=29s They could do surreal as well as any of the classics like the Young Ones when they were actually going for surreal and not "and also it's important that you know that both sides are wrong and I am better than either." Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/LoyalDefender2K/status/1414861790333349892?s=20
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Jul 13, 2021 12:27
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Failed Imagineer posted:The secret is never turn puter off Yeah but then my 10 hour work contract turns in to me doing 50 hours. Was discussing with the boss yesterday that doing reconciliations on Xero becomes highly addictive. Her Xero vice is pulling off profit and loss sheets by account codes and finding months old (before my time) errors for me to fix. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Jul 13, 2021 12:27
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I was watching some clips of Beavis and Butthead on Youtube the other week and I'd forgotten just how hilariously vicious they could be about the music videos they watched. "I thought people in leather jackets normally looked cool?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuYGiG77Ik
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Jul 13, 2021 12:27
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:After 5 years, Horror Channel have recently stopped rerunning Star Trek original at 6pm every night I know exactly what you mean. It's weird but sometimes I just like picking through the telly channels. 95% of what's on is shite but that helps to lessen the choice anxiety even further because then you go with the one good thing you do find (TOS on horror channel is a good example, I've introduced my partner to it in just this way!). I also kinda miss the element of old broadcast tv where you knew there was a bunch of other people watching the same thing as you at the same time. It felt more communal somehow. In the early 2000s I was in the US and got into the habit of watching Adult Swim every night, it was cozy knowing that I was up late watching Sealab 2021 at 1 am with a bunch of stoners and night owls. Edit even better with AS they'd run bumpers talking directly to the viewers, so you felt kind of in dialogue with the station as well. I really like that stuff Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Jul 13, 2021 12:28
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I know we've mentioned this before at some point - which agency was in that building over Euston Square station? I remember my boss and I going to look at it (after it had been vacated obviously!) with a view to purchase/lease and there was a completely sound-proof room in there, whether for torture or hush hush debriefs I don't know. You have mentioned it before, it was MI5's building at 140 Gower Street. Given that 70s MI5 liked to do all their debriefs in Claridges and then as now mostly outsourced the fingernail-pulling, it's just as likely to have been an anechoic chamber for testing listening devices and countermeasures as anything cooler/scarier.
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Jul 13, 2021 12:30
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feedmegin posted:I mean, Americans sometimes rock up here in London expecting, like, horse drawn carriages, pea souper fogs, Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes, so it does at least go both ways. you do see the odd group of american tourists in belfast with the look of people who have experienced a few days of real life belfast having been fed a lifetime of fantasies about life in aarlind and somehow sold a holiday to belfast just confused, frightened, cowed
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Jul 13, 2021 12:31
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stev posted:I actually wrote a piece of GCSE coursework (General Studies I think, whatever that was) making this exact argument in defence of poo poo like South Park and Little Britain. What sort of insufferable little oval office would do that. Eh, you're being tested on your ability to make a coherent argument, not on it's correctness. Just means your screed actually have an argument and a structure.
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e: ^^^ any marker who claims that they're immune to finding more faults in arguments that they disagree with than arguments they agree with is just deluded though tbh (apart from left wing people obviously, it's not our fault if all the right-wing arguments are internally inconsistent (although I can recognise the bias when I can immediately identify my own property law students from the weird mini-rants about Thatcher in the footnotes))Aidan_702 posted:https://twitter.com/LoyalDefender2K/status/1414861790333349892?s=20 you love to see it 
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