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Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
A morgue is like a corpse bank, ya know?

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cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Colonel Cancer posted:

A morgue is like a corpse bank, ya know?

I mean, I don't know if you can make withdrawals

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I’m starting to wonder if what I had might’ve been electrolyte imbalance caused by dehydration. Before I started having symptoms yesterday I spent the whole afternoon outside in hot muggy weather putting together a new power saw and sweating like a motherfucker.

I don’t know if chills line up with that though. Are major chills a symptom of electrolyte imbalance?

It also may not explain why my head and joints still ache a little.

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jul 12, 2021

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Fever and Chills are a sign of severe dehydration

Dog on Fire
Oct 2, 2004

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

So given how these waves of Covid go, does delaying by six weeks or something seem like it'd help his chances enough to be worth it? If you could make it work financially, what would you do?

Hey, I don't have an answer to this, but this NYT newsletter article gave me some peace of mind about the well-being of my own (relatively) tiny child: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/18/briefing/kids-covid-and-delta.html

Of course it's from a month ago, which is about a decade in the pandemic context, and so on.

In case you can't access it, the most important parts I'd pick would be:

quote:

[...]
This evidence suggests that serious versions of Covid will continue to be extremely rare in children.
[...]
The best assumption seems to be that Delta will be modestly worse for children than earlier versions of the virus. “I haven’t seen data to make me particularly worried about Delta in kids,” Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, told me.
[...]
Death is not the only outcome that parents fear, of course. Yet “long Covid” and hospitalization have also been very rare in children. It’s just that society has been so focused on Covid that we have paid intense attention to the risks associated with it — even when they are smaller than other risks that we unthinkingly accept.
[...]
To take one example, we don’t use the phrase “long flu,” but it’s a real problem, including for children: One academic study has found that up to 10 percent of people who contract influenza later develop cardiac inflammation.
[...]
There are still enough Covid uncertainties that some precautions can make sense for children, like wearing masks indoors or avoiding crowded places. “The actual overall threat of death is minuscule, and the threat to health is quite low,” Dr. Robert Wachter of the University of California, San Francisco, said, “but if I had young kids, I’d still really prefer they not get Covid.”
[...]
The interruption of school and other normal activities has caused substantial damage to children — academically, socially and psychologically. Helping children resume normal activities is important to their health. “Kids should be in camp,” Dr. Jennifer Lighter, a pediatric infectious-disease specialist at N.Y.U., told me.
[...]

Also:

quote:

Polls suggest that many Democratic voters have an inflated sense of Covid’s risks to children.

Dog on Fire fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 12, 2021

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


*Goon performs heavy labor and is surprised by side effects.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

latinotwink1997 posted:

*Goon performs heavy labor and is surprised by side effects.

When Ring Fit came out goons would talk about fainting and vomiting after doing 15 minutes of light calisthenics

Need to film some PSAs imo

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Giving yourself heat exhaustion to yell "SEE DAD I DO HAVE COVID" is a new one.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

I made the mistake of going to a birthday party yesterday because my friend is moving away

Everyone went to an arcade and a hibachi dinner afterwards. One of my friends clearly has long covid because he is trying to hide a persistent shallow cough every few minutes and pretending like no one can see it. There were zillions of people all playing games and bowling and poo poo and everywhere people were hacking, even employees surrounded by other employees. The restaurant was packed and also had people coughing all over each other.

Then I look at the testing rate and it's dropped super low and I realize this poo poo is still everywhere just as much as it was 6 months ago

What a loving horrible mistake lol Jesus christ

god drat

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
At an 80% vaccination rate, Vermont lifted all restrictions the first week of June. For most of the month I was an outlier wearing mine indoors.

But for the last two weeks, I notice when I stop at my local grocery (once or twice a a week), I'm seeing an increasing number of people wearing masks. Today there were like five.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

AHH F/UGH posted:

I made the mistake of going to a birthday party yesterday because my friend is moving away

Everyone went to an arcade and a hibachi dinner afterwards. One of my friends clearly has long covid because he is trying to hide a persistent shallow cough every few minutes and pretending like no one can see it. There were zillions of people all playing games and bowling and poo poo and everywhere people were hacking, even employees surrounded by other employees. The restaurant was packed and also had people coughing all over each other.

Then I look at the testing rate and it's dropped super low and I realize this poo poo is still everywhere just as much as it was 6 months ago

What a loving horrible mistake lol Jesus christ

god drat
Yea

I guess it's my anxiety coupled with a complete lack of giving a poo poo but if I see anyone coughing around me more than say twice I'm leaving the area.

For the foreseeable future :jerry:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cheesus posted:

At an 80% vaccination rate

of adults,

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

AHH F/UGH posted:

I made the mistake of going to a birthday party yesterday because my friend is moving away

Everyone went to an arcade and a hibachi dinner afterwards. One of my friends clearly has long covid because he is trying to hide a persistent shallow cough every few minutes and pretending like no one can see it. There were zillions of people all playing games and bowling and poo poo and everywhere people were hacking, even employees surrounded by other employees. The restaurant was packed and also had people coughing all over each other.

Then I look at the testing rate and it's dropped super low and I realize this poo poo is still everywhere just as much as it was 6 months ago

What a loving horrible mistake lol Jesus christ

god drat

Do you live in Mississippi? I live in a major city and I've been out a lot over the past couple weeks and I haven't seen any scenes as you describe.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

According to recent reports, I should have gotten the J&J so I could get GBS injected directly into my veins.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
You sure you’re not just hyper-aware of coughing now? People cough a lot even without covid.

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Dren posted:

You sure you’re not just hyper-aware of coughing now? People cough a lot even without covid.

Nah if you cough now it means you're dying and covering up a much worse medical condition. We should discriminate and isolate people who cough from now on.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum
One of the questions asked of the NSW Chief Health Officer this morning was whether any of the younger people in hospital with covid have comorbidities. Her reply was that none of them have underlying health conditions.

liz
Nov 4, 2004

Stop listening to the static.

AHH F/UGH posted:

I made the mistake of going to a birthday party yesterday because my friend is moving away

Everyone went to an arcade and a hibachi dinner afterwards. One of my friends clearly has long covid because he is trying to hide a persistent shallow cough every few minutes and pretending like no one can see it. There were zillions of people all playing games and bowling and poo poo and everywhere people were hacking, even employees surrounded by other employees. The restaurant was packed and also had people coughing all over each other.

Then I look at the testing rate and it's dropped super low and I realize this poo poo is still everywhere just as much as it was 6 months ago

What a loving horrible mistake lol Jesus christ

god drat

Oh man, I feel this… This is me every time I loosen my Covid comfort zone. Mostly in people’s houses because I still cannot bring myself to eat in a restaurant yet.

But yea, cough and sneeze anxiety for sure.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

Guess what! :love:
Guess what this is? :love:
A Post, Just for you! :love:
Wedge Regret
Im recovered from my 2nd shot. I had heavy fatigue and a fever of a 103. With the AC being broken I took two ice baths today and I am feeling a lot better.

Bring it on Covid. I dont want you again.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Interesting

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1414743880742969345?s=21

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

The weirdest thing was seeing my friend constantly trying to hide these deep, small coughs. He sounded like the dog on Seinfeld that had a cough and Kramer was taking it’s medicine when it did come out. He’d kind of bullfrog it up a bit every five minutes and try to keep it in. He’s been like this for maybe 8 or 9 months. He says he got vaccinated but I think he’s lying, not that it would help.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Chuka Umana posted:

Nah if you cough now it means you're dying and covering up a much worse medical condition. We should discriminate and isolate people who cough from now on.

Now that I am very aware of how much people cough I might be pro cough-segregation

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

AHH F/UGH posted:

The weirdest thing was seeing my friend constantly trying to hide these deep, small coughs. He sounded like the dog on Seinfeld that had a cough and Kramer was taking it’s medicine when it did come out. He’d kind of bullfrog it up a bit every five minutes and try to keep it in. He’s been like this for maybe 8 or 9 months. He says he got vaccinated but I think he’s lying, not that it would help.

Maybe he just has TB

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

quote:

Music at South Korean gyms has been restricted in a new campaign designed to control the nation's latest COVID-19 outbreak, sparked by the highly contagious Delta variant.

Under new rules, the music in gyms cannot be faster than 120 beats per minute (BPM) during group exercises.

Health officials said the new measures were necessary for businesses to remain open and prevent people from breathing too fast or splashing sweat.

The new rules also limit treadmill speeds to a maximum of 6kph, ban the use of showers at gyms, and restrict table tennis matches to two people per table.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-13/south-koreans-asked-to-listen-to-slow-music-amid-covid/100287996

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Cheesus posted:

At an 80% vaccination rate

with at least one dose,

(Out of Vermont's total population only 67% are fully vaccinated)
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/covid-19-vaccine-dashboard

67%, 80% ...... eh what's a few percentage points among friends, enjoy your wide opened state!

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Jul 13, 2021

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

with at least one dose,

(Out of Vermont's total population only 67% are fully vaccinated)
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/covid-19-vaccine-dashboard

67%, 80% ...... eh what's a few percentage points among friends, enjoy your wide opened state!

I wondering about that, but I was on mobile and Vermont and the news media made it hard to find the one‐shot information.

Honestly, with the protection (not) demonstrated against Delta by a single shot of the Pfizer vaccine in Britain, it would be more honest to round these half‐vaccinated folks down to unvaccinated rather than up to vaccinated. One could say “they have a foot in the door and it may be easier to get them to show up for the second shot”, but let’s not count chicks before they’re hatched.

While we’re at it, we’ve got to drop some of the superlatives we’ve been using with the mRNA vaccines. They are no longer “extraordinarily” good versus Delta. They are moderately good. They are are better than the flu and tuberculosis vaccines, about level with the measles and rubella vaccines, and worse than the measles, chickenpox, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, polio, and smallpox vaccines.

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !

lol

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

That thing in South Korea is, by far, the stupidest pandemic response I've ever heard. That's worse than Britain's "close the pubs by 10" or Belgium's "close the restaurants by 2am."

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

freebooter posted:

That thing in South Korea is, by far, the stupidest pandemic response I've ever heard. That's worse than Britain's "close the pubs by 10" or Belgium's "close the restaurants by 2am."

How about Japan's "If you're going to ride a rollercoaster please scream in your heart and not out loud"???



E: link in case anyone thought I was joking: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-thrill-seekers

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Yeah it's amazing.
Also don't use treadmills over 6kmh speed!
This will save us!
Even more amazing is someone finally coming to terms with reality and going to level 4 restrictions.
They were ready to almost fully open things up just a day before with only 30% of the country with a single shot. Theyre only just now opening it up to 55+ age group to register and they ran out of reservations before the day was out.

Demand is there but no supply.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Surprised South Korea didn’t use the pandemic as an excuse to outright ban the use of fans.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
There's nothing wrong with isolating people with highly infectious diseases that spread through air from the rest of population imo

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1414947666723676160?s=20
Holy fuckballs, look at that Netherlands curve.

A bunch of my coworkers (not in the Netherlands) are talking about how they're looking forward to the "post-Covid" summer. Yeahhhhh, about that.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I don’t ever listen to music at the gym. I wear hearing protectors so that I can’t hear music at the gym. South Korea get on my level :smug:

latinotwink1997 posted:

*Goon performs heavy labor and is surprised by side effects.

Cthulu Carl posted:

Giving yourself heat exhaustion to yell "SEE DAD I DO HAVE COVID" is a new one.

I mean I sweat like a loving waterfall in general, I’ve worked outside in the heat for long periods before, I lift weights 3 days a week for like 2+ hours and I’m starting to jog on my off-days…… I do all of that poo poo and I’ve never gone through severe dehydration symptoms before in my entire life. If dehydration is what put me in the ER then I’m not sure what the gently caress I did different to cause it. I thought I was drinking enough.

GRECOROMANGRABASS
May 14, 2020
I got the J&J back in April and live in southern Florida. I want to get an mRNA vaccine so terribly bad.

I saw someone on another discussion forum mention they got both J&J and two doses of Pfizer because, why not. Is that a thing people are actually doing? I never find anything about J&J efficacy against variants in the latest research publications or news updates - it's like they only track AZ & the two mRNA vaccines, which feels kinda weird? Feeling vibes of "well anyone who got that fuckin' thing J&J poo poo out isn't around to worry about Delta, so.."

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Edit: ok, new data on J&J vs Delta is in preprint as of last week, so I'll share this good news about the J&J vaccine from an n=8 sample-sized study that hasn't been scrutinized yet.

TL;DR on it is they claim to see efficacy against covid-19 continue to improve over time, and indications are that the J&J vaccine is more effective against Delta than it was the original variant of the virus. Apparently, J&J ages like fine wine.

"Demonstrated strong neutralizing antibody activity against the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant
A preprint submitted by the Company today to bioRxiv contains a new analysis from blood samples obtained from a subset of participants (n=8) in the Phase 3 ENSEMBLE study. These data showed that the Johnson & Johnson single-shot COVID-19 vaccine elicited neutralizing antibody activity against the Delta variant at an even higher level than what was recently observed for the Beta (B.1.351) variant in South Africa where high efficacy against severe/critical disease was demonstrated.

In the ENSEMBLE trial, Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose COVID-19 vaccine was 85 percent effective against severe/critical disease and demonstrated protection against hospitalization and death. The vaccine was consistently effective across all regions studied globally, including in South Africa and Brazil, where there was a high prevalence of rapidly emerging Beta and Zeta (P.2) variants during the study period.

Immune responses persisted through at least eight months
Data submitted by Dan Barouch, M.D., Ph.D., of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center et al., to bioRxiv from a sub-study of the Johnson & Johnson Phase 1/2a COVID-19 vaccine study (n=20) showed that humoral and cellular immune responses generated by the Johnson & Johnson single-shot COVID-19 vaccine lasted through at least eight months, the latest timepoint recorded in the study thus far. Data showed that T-cell responses – including CD8+ T-cells that seek out and destroy infected cells – persisted over the eight-month timeframe examined.

A single dose of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine generated neutralizing antibodies against a range of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern, which increased over time (the average neutralizing titer at eight months exceeded that average at 29 days), including against the increasingly prevalent and more transmissible Delta (B.1.617.2) variant, the partially neutralization-resistant Beta (B.1.351), the Gamma (P.1) variants and others, including the Alpha (B.1.1.7), Epsilon (B.1.429), Kappa (B.1.617.1) and D614G variants, as well as the original SARS-CoV-2 strain (WA1/2020)."


Edit 2: SNEAKY BASTARDS ok, so a casual glance through implies J&J's vaccine performs better against Delta than any other variant. However, a more careful parsing reveals that J&J is a bit less effective against Delta than it was against the original virus, but it does better against variant Delta than it does against variant Beta (Beta seems to be the variant that J&J and the mRNA commonly do worst against?)

GRECOROMANGRABASS fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jul 13, 2021

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:


I saw someone on another discussion forum mention they got both J&J and two doses of Pfizer because, why not. Is that a thing people are actually doing?

I'd get every vaccine I could get my hands on if I had the option. Sadly I live in Australia where the federal government is somehow less capable than the Trump administration.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

DickParasite posted:

I'd get every vaccine I could get my hands on if I had the option.

Likewise.

Lolie fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 13, 2021

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

DickParasite posted:

I'd get every vaccine I could get my hands on if I had the option.

https://youtu.be/Qs-a7tH7-W4

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

I know "the vaccines are safe" has been mostly established but maybe we should wait for more research before "get all the vaccines at once" becomes a reasonable idea

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Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!
My mom got Pfizer as booster to Sinovac as Turkey straight up went to booster shots for olds.

Dunno what's the research on having tropical mix Capri Sun made from vaccines but if it'll helps to boost AZ, I'm okay with it.

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