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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Pistol_Pete posted:

I was watching some clips of Beavis and Butthead on Youtube the other week and I'd forgotten just how hilariously vicious they could be about the music videos they watched.

"I thought people in leather jackets normally looked cool?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuYGiG77Ik

Lol was literally watching this exact video - "He's having trouble defecating... not any more".

My all time favourite is still this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcLBt1O2MjM

Not for the music or the roast of it, but just Beavis' "Ooooohh..." of realisation when he realises what "Stick it where the sun don't shine" meant. Kills me every time.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Eh, you're being tested on your ability to make a coherent argument, not on it's correctness. Just means your screed actually have an argument and a structure.

My experience of O-level English Lit (45 years ago) is that it was to make sure you could regurgitate 'correct' interpretations of the works not come up with your own interpretations even when backed up with quotes etc. from the books. Ironically, my English teacher said to me she loved my interpretations of 1984 and Animal Farm but could I please present 'the party line' in the actual exam if I was to stand a chance of passing. (I did pass, I think I got B - back in the old days when O-levels were A, B, C, D, E, Fail.) I failed RE badly, I have a recollection of drawing Black Power fists on the paper. It was the only O-level I failed.

Jaeluni's O-level RE paper:



Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Jul 13, 2021

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i ripped into schindler's list for my gcse history coursework 20 odd years ago, i'm p sure if i did the same now i'd go on a list somewhere

not a good one

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Beavis and Butthead never gets old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYgC2SfBniU

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I couple of years ago my aunt and her wife came over to London for my mum's funeral, and they had some crazy culture shock. It was frankly bizarre, they are hardly country bumpkins - they live an hour or two's drive from San Francisco, and in fact my aunt used to live in SF herself. My aunt had even visited London a few times before, although not since the early 90s. But they were both completely blown away by how large and busy the city was. We were in a car up on the Westway and their eyes were wide as saucers looking at the view. I think they somehow imagined London as a quaint market town as opposed to the largest city in Europe.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Andrew Neil’s twitter is completely batshit insane, he’s gone full communism and fascism are the same and NO U

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
London floods chat:

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/queen-brian-may-home-floods/

quote:

Queen's Brian May 'devastated' as 'stinking' sewage floods his London home
Precious items including childhood photos have been ruined

Queen legend Brian May says he’s “devastated” after “stinking” sewage inundated his home during flash floods in London yesterday (12th July).

The 73-year-old guitarist explained on Instagram that he’d returned home in Kensington, West London from a day at The Royal Holloway College where he was given an honorary fellowship to discover a scene of absolute “horror.”

etc

{he comments about London councils allowing large basement excavations}


This is why all my photos are scanned (I'm from a Before Time when photos were real things not digits), certificates scanned, books and sentimental stuff > 1m above the floor in my home.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Aphex- posted:

I thought the Culture war was over hundreds of years ago with a resounding defeat of the Idiran Empire.

Well, FTL travel may exist, but the light from that war is only just reaching us, I think.

The CDU/CSU and FDP parties in Germany are now starting with dumb Culture War poo poo. They always lag a few years since the speed at which information can travel across the vast expanse of the Atlantic is somewhat limited.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Not sure it was the basement building and not the month’s worth of rain in a day though

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

This is why all my photos are scanned (I'm from a Before Time when photos were real things not digits), certificates scanned, books and sentimental stuff > 1m above the floor in my home.

Hold on, hold on.

Have you achieved… the paperless office?!
And all it took is a bit of water to nudge you along?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Antigravitas posted:

Hold on, hold on.

Have you achieved… the paperless office?!
And all it took is a bit of water to nudge you along?

I've got the papers still, but have the lot scanned onto a couple of external hard drives (I do backups of my backups) just in case.

Fortunately I haven't been flooded but it was so close last year it did put a boot up my bum on those things I hadn't got round to yet!

What I have almost achieved is a home with stuff that ultimately doesn't matter. Some sentimental items is all. Books are replaceable if the poo poo really hit the fan albeit at a cost, photos etc all scanned.

learnincurve posted:

Not sure it was the basement building and not the month’s worth of rain in a day though


Yeah I'm not sure how big basements might have affected it but I didn't read closely enough to see what his argument for that is.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I stopped watching South Park a long time ago not out of objection but because I had other things I got into.

The two episodes that stick out in my mind are: First, the one where the casino tries to buy the town. The twist made me feel really, really dumb because I got right up to the Pat Benetar bit thinking "This is awful, they're portraying the Native Peoples as uncaring rich pricks buying up the land from the people who live there" and then it clicked and I felt dumb but impressed.

E: having said that though the episode in general feels very slow and meandering compared to earlier episodes. And I feel like I've read about white dickheads in real life making this accusation about "Indian Casinos" reclaiming tribal land which is maybe why it took so long.

The second one was the aspergers episode which a few people said I should watch after being diagnosed. I really tried to be patient with it, and tried to keep in mind turnabout is fair play when you're the butt of the joke, but... There was no clever twist to it. I'm not even sure they knew what they were saying with it apart from the tired old "Oh these people are really disabled, so you should stop complaining."

I guess if you don't know anything about ASD other than a surface reading of it some of it might seem funny / making a good point but the bit in the care home was just weird. It was really hard to tell if they were doing that so the audience would laugh at the patients, if they were supposed to sympathise, if they were just being edgy for no reason or if that was the big twist.

That's the difference between classic Sout Park and modern is that it was funny when the jokes were universal observations about people making dumb decisions, and the 'exploring an issue' episodes at least had a twist or a point to them.

The most recent ones I've caught a bit of have been more like those piece of poo poo 'epic movie' things where the 'joke' is "aah look, he's doing the thing from the popular movie!"

(Scary Movie 2 and Not Another Teen Movie being the exception, though I'm certain there are bits in both that are fairly oof nowadays)

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jul 13, 2021

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
The Culture war thing that made me laugh the most recently was the half hearted attempts to drag the Office into it. Gervais said it would be 'Cancelled' in an interview and then 'It couldn't be made today', screamed the bbc news article about the show's 20th anniversary.

They hadn't even taken out a slur or removed it from britbox, no censorship or prominent criticism had occured, they just decided that it was the new front in the culture war for 5 mins before giving up. The bbc artice was just a big dog whistle too, didn't mention Gervais comment just said 'everyones wfh at the moment so you couldn't make a comedy set in an office' which is a strange thing to say they sometimes make comedy shows set in outer space.

The thing i remember most about southpark back when it was fresh and new and came on VHS tapes from woolworths was that it was funny how Kenny died every episode. A little later it was fun to point out to certain fans of the Southpark Movie that it was a musical, you liked a musical. Yes I know musicals are 'gay' but it is one and you liked it.

I haven't watched either in a while but I really liked Baseketball and Team America so while Southpark is a bit of a wash overall they done some fun stuff.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

crispix posted:

you do see the odd group of american tourists in belfast with the look of people who have experienced a few days of real life belfast having been fed a lifetime of fantasies about life in aarlind and somehow sold a holiday to belfast

just confused, frightened, cowed

They...never heard about, like, the Troubles? At all?

I mean I can imagine a bunch of people from Boston turning up with smuggled Armalites and a romantic view of joining the Struggle or some poo poo

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
How Ricky loving Gervais came out with the office I'll never understand

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

feedmegin posted:

They...never heard about, like, the Troubles? At all?

I mean I can imagine a bunch of people from Boston turning up with smuggled Armalites and a romantic view of joining the Struggle or some poo poo

there are a lot of "irish" over there with very vague and confused ideas about what ireland is, in my experience

it's best to just nod and indulge them, where possible

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

ThomasPaine posted:

How Ricky loving Gervais came out with the office I'll never understand

Stephen Merchant and timing.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
South Park got stale, but I don't think I've ever laughed harder at anything on screen than the episode where they take a photo of Kennys arse poking out of his hood, and the family reaches out thinking its their missing kid.

Oh to be an extremely stoned teenager again...

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Antigravitas posted:

Well, FTL travel may exist, but the light from that war is only just reaching us, I think.

The CDU/CSU and FDP parties in Germany are now starting with dumb Culture War poo poo. They always lag a few years since the speed at which information can travel across the vast expanse of the Atlantic is somewhat limited.

Isn't humanity part of the Culture? Like, the whole series is some centuries at least into our future.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

feedmegin posted:

They...never heard about, like, the Troubles? At all?

I mean I can imagine a bunch of people from Boston turning up with smuggled Armalites and a romantic view of joining the Struggle or some poo poo
I think part of the problem is that a lot of people in the US who call themselves Irish know absolutely gently caress all about what that word means, and just see the word 'Ireland' and ignore the 'Northern' part.

It doesn't help that the US president is kind of trying to slip back into that Clintonesque 'take credit for any progress the peace process makes' shtick.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


I just want to thank this thread for not being like every other one that is just a torrent of 'South Park was always terrible both sides libertarian trash and I want to make clear that I would never, and never have, watched any episode'

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

feedmegin posted:

Isn't humanity part of the Culture? Like, the whole series is some centuries at least into our future.

I think the idiran war takes place a few hundred years ago by our calendar and by the time of some of the later ones humanity has just been Contacted.

I think there's a timeline at the end of consider phlebas, let me go check.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Pistol_Pete posted:

I was watching some clips of Beavis and Butthead on Youtube the other week and I'd forgotten just how hilariously vicious they could be about the music videos they watched.

"I thought people in leather jackets normally looked cool?"
Beavis and Butt-head watching 'Ebeneezer Goode' - "These guys are from that country where everything sucks."

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

feedmegin posted:

Isn't humanity part of the Culture? Like, the whole series is some centuries at least into our future.

Parts of the series are in our past, and Earth itself is uncontacted. I don't remember if the reason more-or-less-humans are everywhere is ever addressed head on, some kind of pan-galactic parallel evolution combined with an easy and universal ability to reshape your body as you like I think.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

The Perfect Element posted:

South Park got stale, but I don't think I've ever laughed harder at anything on screen than the episode where they take a photo of Kennys arse poking out of his hood, and the family reaches out thinking its their missing kid.

Oh to be an extremely stoned teenager again...

A fresh take on Chaucer's Miller's Tale?

The Miller's Tale
lines 615-635: The kissing of bare arse

http://www.librarius.com/canttran/milltale/milltale615-635.htm

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Idrian culture wars take place for about 100 years between the late 1200s to the late 1300s

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jul 13, 2021

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

feedmegin posted:

They...never heard about, like, the Troubles? At all?

I've heard plenty stories from hospitality workers about 'Irish'-American tourists asking for Irish Car Bombs and the like in the pub, then being genuinely confused when they get told to gently caress off.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

feedmegin posted:

Isn't humanity part of the Culture? Like, the whole series is some centuries at least into our future.

There’s a short story where the Culture send agents to visit Earth in the 70s but I don’t think there’s any conclusion.l as to if it goes anywhere. Either way, humanity definitely isn’t one of the early members.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Chubby Henparty posted:

I just want to thank this thread for not being like every other one that is just a torrent of 'South Park was always terrible both sides libertarian trash and I want to make clear that I would never, and never have, watched any episode'

South Park had some funny episodes, especially the early seasons, but it did very much go like this after a point when the creators started huffing their own farts a bit too much.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I think part of the problem is that a lot of people in the US who call themselves Irish know absolutely gently caress all about what that word means, and just see the word 'Ireland' and ignore the 'Northern' part.

It doesn't help that the US president is kind of trying to slip back into that Clintonesque 'take credit for any progress the peace process makes' shtick.

Trying to explain to my American friends that Northern Ireland is part of The United Kingdom, but not part of Great Britain / British Isles, that Ireland (without the Northern) is in the EU and a separate country with international dialling codes and different money...

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Noxville posted:

There’s a short story where the Culture send agents to visit Earth in the 70s but I don’t think there’s any conclusion.l as to if it goes anywhere. Either way, humanity definitely isn’t one of the early members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRl9D_agLbU

If you would like something to listen to while you work this afternoon

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

big scary monsters posted:

Parts of the series are in our past, and Earth itself is uncontacted. I don't remember if the reason more-or-less-humans are everywhere is ever addressed head on, some kind of pan-galactic parallel evolution combined with an easy and universal ability to reshape your body as you like I think.
I remember reading one as a teen where a member of the culture decides to 'retire' to a primitive planet and live and die as a normal human. It's set in the contemporary 90s I think. It might not be a culture story but I remember reading everything our local library had by Banks, which wasn't in order or a complete collection.

The story is mostly about someone from the culture tracking them down and saying "are you sure" and they say yes and the culture person goes "well that's sad but your choice I guess." I think I remember a bit where the culture person has a bunch of futuristic surgery done to make them look more human.

E: spoilered since NMN just posted it and it's good so you should read it.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jul 13, 2021

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

feedmegin posted:

Isn't humanity part of the Culture? Like, the whole series is some centuries at least into our future.

Humanity on Earth is explicitly uncontacted and not part of the Culture. It was observed and found wanting iirc, not awful enough to intervene, not good enough to just contact. Basically some backwater system in an unfashionable arm of the galaxy, mostly harmless, terrible views on sexuality. The whole pan-humanity thing is explained as convergent evolution that like 10% of spacefaring species end up looking similar.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
There is a Culture book mainly set on a planet where the Human population rejected AI government and the very concept of being ruled by Minds (I remember there being some interesting stuff about how the Minds regard AIs kept 'artificially' stupid as being somewhat barbaric). This Human lead culture sublimes well before the Culture but are still back stabbing and politicking to the very last second. It also feature one of my favourite characters - the kind of cult leader figure who has morphed himself into having 40 odd dicks so he can experience incredible sexual release.

Good book!

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



I really liked Inversions, where you piece together right at the end that it's a Special Circumstances mission seen from the other side.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
If space aliens have feet we'll want them to play football with us.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Antigravitas posted:

Humanity on Earth is explicitly uncontacted and not part of the Culture. It was observed and found wanting iirc, not awful enough to intervene, not good enough to just contact. Basically some backwater system in an unfashionable arm of the galaxy, mostly harmless, terrible views on sexuality. The whole pan-humanity thing is explained as convergent evolution that like 10% of spacefaring species end up looking similar.

Yeah, but that was in the 1970s. IIRC Consider Phlebas has a timeline that has humanity joining the Culture in the far future.

TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.
I remember being on a high school weekend trip and the adults in charged decided South Park was too adult for the evening entertainment so we all got to watch the latest episode of Friends instead, in retrospect I think South Park was a lot more wholesome.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

So the end of consider phlebas mentions a "contact approved earth extro-information pack" and gives a date of publication of 2110 AD so presumably the idea is that earth is at some point contacted.

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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Azza Bamboo posted:

If space aliens have feet we'll want them to play football with us.
Would they be eligible to join FIFA, and, if not, can we just play with them instead?

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