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Dienes posted:"A lot of words that come off as "I, a man, am sick of seeing jokes about sexism that make men look bad."" What? I literally provided alternative jokes that make the men look worse for their sexism. And, I'm actually a little proud of the "wandering uterus" one because it references a particularly sexist aspect to the beginnings of psychoanalysis in a way that parallels how the monster sperm were tearing through the planet, wrecking havoc. It would've been a supremely sexist thing to say that hearkens back to an extremely sexist time when even the nascent science of psychology was all but hopelessly riddled with codified, and absurd, sexism. Bust Rodd posted:Counterpoint: She definitely knows more about sexism. Comedy? Maybe, maybe not; she may not be into comedy as much as I am. But what we think is funny is at least a little different. Eiba posted:Lol, no, I'm saying the joke was good actually. The fact that it's accurately calling out a bad thing made me laugh. But thanks for the essay arguing that a joke that did not make you laugh was Objectively Bad. I'm not saying it's objectively bad. Humor is subjective. But, you suggested that I thought it was bad because I didn't seem to think sexism was a thing anymore. I called you out on that, quoted and explained my posts further to demonstrate that your take on my motivation was at best patently wrong (and more likely in bad faith), and that better jokes about sexism were right there for the making. If you liked the joke, your taste in humor is just a little different than mine. Diff'rent strokes and all that. Phylodox posted:I really don't know how you can argue about the timeliness of jokes in an episode that dropped Nancy Reagan and Amazing Jonathan gags. I only commented on the joke that, to me, felt remarkably lazy. The Nancy Reagan thing actually landed for me because I'm old (Guy A. Person's post above is in line with how I interpreted the joke), and the Amazing Jonathan thing flew right the gently caress over my head. Seriously, I think I actually asked my wife, "Are we supposed to know who that is?" As for why I'm criticizing this joke instead of every other dumb thing in this dumb episode? Well for one, I didn't realize I had to criticize everything if I wanted to criticize one thing. Honestly, as I watched this episode, I kept hoping that it could be turned around, and all of the crazy stuff would have a big payoff at the end. So, as I watched, I didn't care so much about the stuff that wasn't going anywhere interesting, because I assumed it'd go somewhere. When it didn't, my reaction to the episode was, "meh." But the Glad I Thought Of It routine felt extra-lazy, especially since the building blocks for much better sexism jokes were right in front of them. On the other hand, the Blazen death was pretty good. That part surprised me. I didn't see it coming, and I laughed. Out loud, even. Like I said, if you liked the joke? Diff'rent strokes. (Which, unless I'm mistaken, is a show Nancy Reagan once appeared on.) ((Probably to tell people not to do drugs.))
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CelticPredator, have you tried literally googling “watch Rick & Morty new episode free”? It has worked for me for the last 5 years pretty reliably lmao
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Jul 13, 2021 17:41
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Yeah I did, I couldn’t really find a good site. But I didn’t really look that hard. I got the whole season on YouTube but there was some weird glitch where they didn’t upload it. It’s weird. I ended up watching it though. I hope next week they don’t do it again. Even if the episode might be bad. I’ll watch it. And if it’s bad I’ll move on.
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Jul 13, 2021 17:47
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Yes, we all know how piracy works but we don't need to brag about it.  Also public sites. 
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Jul 13, 2021 17:47
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CelticPredator posted:I’ll watch it. And if it’s bad I’ll move on. Whoa there, buddy. I think we all know the best course of action if it's bad is to talk for years about how bad it is and how poorly that one episode reflects on the personal and professional lives of the creators.
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Jul 13, 2021 17:51
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Remember that if you don’t like an episode it means the show is bad now, up it’s own rear end, sold out, etc
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Jul 13, 2021 17:56
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guys stop arguing with each other, its what dan harrmon wants
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Jul 13, 2021 17:57
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incest is tearing this family apart 
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Jul 13, 2021 17:59
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Individual episodes can be up their own rear end. Individual episodes can sell out. Lowest common denominator. Stop dismissing people not liking something. Maybe it'll get better. It should - they've been pretty consistent. gently caress.
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Jul 13, 2021 18:01
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I’m not dismissing anything, this thread is just going through the exact same cycle as every animated comedy thread does after season 1. Goons toss out these meaningless meme critiques, like “up its own rear end” because a new episode of one of the most popular shows on Earth wasn’t for you, specifically. Some Rick & Morty fans thinks that they are THE Rick & Morty fan, and the show is really for them, and many of them post here.
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Jul 13, 2021 18:09
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It's okay: one needs a Very High IQ to  get Rick & Morty. It's why so many people didn't like the last episode. 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:incest is tearing this family apart to be fair incest is also helping the family come together
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Dienes posted:to be fair incest is also helping the family come together someone combine  and  into :barfo: so this post works tia
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m not dismissing anything, this thread is just going through the exact same cycle as every animated comedy thread does after season 1. Goons toss out these meaningless meme critiques, like “up its own rear end” because a new episode of one of the most popular shows on Earth wasn’t for you, specifically. Some Rick & Morty fans thinks that they are THE Rick & Morty fan, and the show is really for them, and many of them post here. I miss the old days when this kind of stuff really was more self-contained. Critic: "I didn't like this." Fan: "Well, you didn't give it a chance. Watch the whole thing." Critic: "I couldn't make it through, it was so bad." Fan: "Then why were you watching it?!" I'm not throwing in the towel on the show at this point. Rick and Morty has been on for more than a couple of seasons, and like all shows, sooner or later, I'm going to watch a bad episode, or a "meh" episode, or one that looks like it was slapped together with the minimal effort required to just barely fulfill a contractual obligation. It's going to happen. It happens with all shows. They can't all be winners. Doesn't mean the show is bad overall, or from that point forward. Now, this Voltron one people seem to be talking about? ... I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen a funny take on Voltron since "Ventronic" took on The Monarch's cocoon in "The Lepidopterists."
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This is the first season whose writing was impacted by corona, yeah? Not just visual production.tarlibone posted:Now, this Voltron one people seem to be talking about? ... I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen a funny take on Voltron since "Ventronic" took on The Monarch's cocoon in "The Lepidopterists." The Voltron one was funny as gently caress.
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Jul 13, 2021 18:27
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Maybe one of the goons on the show is allowed to speak to it, but I imagine it was a lot easier to shift this production to WFH than many businesses. Most of the work that they do can probably be done better, from home, and without the face-to-face they can do selections and feedback over Zoom...which is what I imagine happened to the writer's room. Most of the actual animation is probably still done overseas: no idea what that looks like post-Covid. I wonder if animated productions will go back to office work or stay remote and save a little money on rent.
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tarlibone posted:Now, this Voltron one people seem to be talking about? ... I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen a funny take on Voltron since "Ventronic" took on The Monarch's cocoon in "The Lepidopterists." I couldn't help but think about the pirate captain doing like 8 Gs when the sword was swinging
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Jul 13, 2021 18:37
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Terror Sweat posted:You can't parody something you hate, there has to be some sort of appreciation there. All the Japanese characters were hacky and mean spirited. Came off as "look at these dumb japs, they're so stupid and dumb compared to us westerners". The writers room is definitely filled with dumbasses who have this air of self-importance. the only way the "anime characters make weird noises when they're done talking" joke works is if you're a filthy casual who watches dubs
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Jul 13, 2021 18:38
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My hot take is the episode really wasn’t good enough to even discuss tbh. It didn’t have much going on. After it ended I just shrugged.
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Jul 13, 2021 18:39
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This thread is a containment sector for some real lunatics huh
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Jul 13, 2021 18:42
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HebrewMagic posted:This thread is a containment sector for some real lunatics huh One of the guys posting in the thread is the one who had to design the sperm queen’s power armor for this episode, show some respect!!
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Jul 13, 2021 18:53
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I will show respect when mister Rick N. Morty himself shows up
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CelticPredator posted:My hot take is the episode really wasn’t good enough to even discuss tbh. It didn’t have much going on. After it ended I just shrugged. That's a pretty good take. It was a bland episode. Lots of stuff happened, and then it ended 
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just like incest itself
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Well that was easy.
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Bust Rodd posted:This is one of those weird things that i love to share, but the main reason that incest porn became so popular in the last 7-8 years is because a really sleazy media mogul pulled a Microsoft and hoovered up dozens of smaller porn production studios all over the US and basically forced all of them to switch over to incest porn because that's what the guy was really into. If you look up the umbrella production studio that owns all of those "Step-Sis & Me!", "Family TherapyXOXOX" companies, it's all the same guy. I say this with the utmost sincerity and respect: I would listen/watch to a podcast/YouTube series just about these random facts about porn and sex work you know a lot about.
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m not dismissing anything, this thread is just going through the exact same cycle as every animated comedy thread does after season 1. Goons toss out these meaningless meme critiques, like “up its own rear end” because a new episode of one of the most popular shows on Earth wasn’t for you, specifically. Some Rick & Morty fans thinks that they are THE Rick & Morty fan, and the show is really for them, and many of them post here. This is a lot of generalizations about people you've never met. If you think posters aren't good at analyzing a TV show and its cycles, why do you think you're good at analyzing a bunch of disconnected individuals who happen to be posting in a thread on any given day?
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:the only way the "anime characters make weird noises when they're done talking" joke works is if you're a filthy casual who watches dubs Not really goofy verbal tics are often used in Japanese as part of characterization. You just don't notice it as much because subtitles tend to ignore them. I agree that joke just doesn't work in the R+M episode at all though.
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LionArcher posted:Lol anyone thinking a lot of pubic hair (or armpit hair) is cool. Especially as we all melt with climate changes I say shave it all for everyone. It’s cooler and less stinky. (And fears about aluminum is dumb, for gods sake everyone use real deodorant). Serious question: what if you’re just hairy in general? Do you just shave everything off (having that area be devoid of hair as opposed to everywhere else seems odd)? I have to admit, despite all the jokes, going to the beach somewhere other than the Mediterranean was really eye opening on just how much more less hirsute the rest of the world is.
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Jul 13, 2021 19:22
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just manicuring it when it gets all crazy is sufficient. like a haircut you can do yourself
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don't mind me just giving my merkin a pompadour
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LionArchers response there is pretty loving stupid IMO. It's not "lol" or anything - almost borderline sexist. Women don't have to conform to any beauty standards and shaving has been forced on them for many years with people like LionArcher calling them disgusting for having natural hair on their arms, armpits, vaginas, legs, etc. They can choose to shave or not. It's up to them. Even guys. Don't loving "lol" at them or pull some loving cover of "well climate change" gently caress off.
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Everyone, I've decided that the episode felt like Rick & Morty fanfiction. I've also decided this is exactly what the writers were aiming for, and thus the episode is brilliant and good.
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The Amazing Johnathan bit is baffling. I guess someone in the writers' room is just a huge fan? He doesn't really do any of his usual crazy stuff, he just makes an "is this your card?" joke that would've worked with any magician. I had to double check if they actually got him to do a voice because it was such a nothing joke. I've noticed they get a lot of big names to do voices that wind up being not very distinct or interesting. Maybe it's just an opportunity to have some fun for the actors. Even in this episode, Christina Ricci was the horse princess.
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Jul 13, 2021 19:50
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Being a guest voice on R&M now is like being a guest voice on the Simpsons in the 90’s. It’s a prestige thing that is downplayed because it’s more for the person doing the voice than it is for the audience
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Where can you watch episode 7?
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RCarr posted:Where can you watch episode 7? A million pirate sites that everyone should learn how to use
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I haven't see the Voltron episode yet, but why are we calling this a Voltron thing instead of a Power Rangers thing? I kinda know that Voltron was a show at some point that had a Megazord type thing. But I'm closing in on 40 years old and it's still before my time. It's feeling like a Popeye thing where people tend to just know it exists more than actually having experience with it.
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Dr_Amazing posted:I haven't see the Voltron episode yet, but why are we calling this a Voltron thing instead of a Power Rangers thing? Voltron was all the same animal (lions in their case) and the focus was exclusively on the giant monster fighting. Power Rangers was different mech animals as well as more of a split focus between out of mech fighting before the monster grew. They also ripped the costumes with the revealed lower faces basically directly from Voltron, and Voltron was an anime and they wanted to do some riffs on that.
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power rangers are an americanized version of an offshoot of the super sentai series, a subgenre of japanese children's tv which focuses on five or so costumed people who defeat bad guys with karate and have cool robots. voltron is the same kind of idea but it takes place in space, doesn't have karate, has space opera politics, and focuses more on the cool robots and how the cool robots join together to make a larger, cooler robot. so power rangers is more of a karate punch show and voltron puts more focus on the robots and spaceships the rick and morty episode is sort of a soft pastiche of anime tropes involving big robots combining, and in the west people often use the term 'voltron' to describe a characteristic of anime shows which have big fighting robots that combine to form a larger, fightier robot. the kaiju involvement is more super sentai but again, its a soft pastiche. probably the main difference is that all the various shows like power rangers are explicitly live action where the big robot genre of anime is explicitly animated. the voltron references are five of the same kind of animal making a big animal, a big laser sword, and an elaborate suiting up sequence involving tubes and machines. in super sentai style shows the robots just sort of appear and the rangers just warp right into the cockpit so they can get back to the karate fighting e: just as an example of how direct the reference is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18i_qfNjeM0 Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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