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skeletors_condom
Jul 21, 2017

What is going live anyway?



MMO server sizes are not written into the constitution.

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Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Kitfox88 posted:

Eh, EVE got to keeping grisly war trophies first.

Still mad I never got my corpse display room from the Ambulations expansion :mad:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Antigravitas posted:

Still mad I never got my corpse display room from the Ambulations expansion :mad:

Same. CCP Eris promised me, personally! :ohdear:

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Antigravitas posted:

Still mad I never got my corpse display room from the Ambulations expansion :mad:

Did you at least got a space ambulance?

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

commando in tophat posted:

Did you at least got a space ambulance?

Yes. Well, sort of. Repair ships, which were essentially the same thing, and also… you know… repair ships, which is still on the waiting list for the poor citizens.

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Tippis posted:

Yes. Well, sort of. Repair ships, which were essentially the same thing, and also… you know… repair ships, which is still on the waiting list for the poor citizens.

It's been a while since I saw EVE. What does "repair ship" mean there? Regular ship with +100% to repair beam?

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

skeletors_condom posted:

...obviously I have spent more than that...
Yes, it's obvious.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

commando in tophat posted:

It's been a while since I saw EVE. What does "repair ship" mean there? Regular ship with +100% to repair beam?

Some such, but even more.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I specialised in space priests. I was actually pretty decent at them, even flying two at once to support fleets. And I had a corpses-only overview preset so I cold collect all the corpses people helpfully left floating around.

I had a lot of corpses. :sun:

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
The secret of the mini-me is revealed

reddit posted:

There is a chair at Everus Harbour that shrinks you by 10% everytime you sit in it





They just need to find the 'grow me' hot dog now

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

Thoatse posted:


or

Star Citizen: Art Archer sells.

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Pixelate posted:

The secret of the mini-me is revealed





They just need to find the 'grow me' hot dog now

star citizen is so good

Hobbergosher
Jun 30, 2007

Another day in paradise
uh... did we know that there's more from "Doctor Jade"?

From 4 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5gi6u3/prisoner_compliance_and_escape_mitigation_helpful/

quote:

Prisoner Compliance and Escape Mitigation, Helpful Medical Info for Our Bounty Hunters <3
GAMEPLAY

For our boys that plan to be bounty hunters and police officers doing dangerous work, I want you to know, Dr.Jade cares about you, so I came up with a few ideas to help make your job safer even if you're a low-budget startup PMC with a single cutlass to your name - based on my familiarity with soviet medical experiments.

In real life, it's possible to remove the arms and legs of a subject to reduce weight, space consumption, and for male subjects remove the testicles to halt testosterone production and increase compliance. I found some in-game analogies to the above when going through the healing your spaceman article, linked here.

The injury body template subdivides into arms, legs, head and torso. Unfortunately groin is not listed and the system is described as percentage based so castration options may be limited, however for the arms and legs, if they can be reduced to a "ruined" state of complete non-functionality, and the stumps bandaged to halt the bleeding out effect, (mechanically possible in the article) you should be able to take prisoners that have had their arms and legs removed or neutralized. This should eliminate the risk of them becoming an active participant in an escape attempt should someone unintentionally (or deliberately) release the prisoners from their pods during either bounty-turn-in accident, a hostile boarding action, etc. etc.

Hopefully they will take up less cargo space and can potentially open the door for mini-prison-pods meant to have reduced-mass occupants, but unfortunately I don't expect CIG to give you quite that much prisoner capacity leniency.

But as a career bounty hunter accidents can happen, and you know your captive will as soon as he sees an opportunity pounce on it to stick a knife in your back. So I thought, let's remove his ability to see and pounce.

It is stated in the player dragging segment it is possible for a limb to be ruined but not bleeding out, and as indicated by the RSI limb damage chart, if you can severely damage the limb and then stop bleeding, hopefully to blind the target by damaging the head, as well as keep the other limbs in a ruined state. Remember, a bounty for "alive" does not necessarily mean "healthy and un-maimed" - so on the off-chance your new recruit Jimmy accidentally releases "Terry, the honest crewman who accidentally locked himself in a prisoner pod while checking in on the prisoners with that buggy escape key" (actually a prisoner taking advantage of a gullible young novice) a disaster can be averted by taking some extra safety precautions.

It is also stated in the man-portable medical devices segment stopping bleeding is one of the effects - so you won't need to have someone in a cutlass red hanging around your cutlass blue as you try to make your living. You'll only need some basic medical supplies, which you should probably have anyway (even if only for yourself and your friends). Additionally, based on the bleeding out segment, it's indicated there's at least a good chance a target will not expire once shot, so it may be possible (once mechanics are appropriately implemented) to conduct field recovery of wounded allies and incapacitated enemies by designating a combat medic role for your small gang to increase safety, reduce costs, and bring law and order to our universe.

Summary TL;DR Based on what we know so far, the option of medically reducing a subject's limbs to a ruined state and then preventing bleeding should be a helpful option to prevent malcompliance or related accidents (like a prisoner convincing a new recruit he was a crewmember that locked himself in a pod by mistake), and should help limit murphy's law from screwing a bounty hunting operation. It should be available to even the smallest bounty and PMC / security operations + available for use to those with limited funds that can only squeeze in some medkits and need early success to make money that can ill-afford the insurance premiums from losing their cutlass blue on the first mission.

I sincerely hope this medical research makes your profession safer and your profits higher so you can afford your own in-universe 890J one day. May the stellar winds be at your back.

<3Mwah

~Doctor Jade

They keep referencing their deep knowledge of "soviet medical experiments"

quote:

...even if you're a low-budget startup PMC with a single cutlass to your name - based on my familiarity with soviet medical experiments.

quote:

the removal of the testicles can mirror soviet medical experiment results IRL



edit: Trying to fathom the feeling of disappointment that Doctor Jade will experience when some patch notes drop that say bounty hunting is like, some click through bullshit and you don't get to uh, manage the bodies.

Hobbergosher fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jul 13, 2021

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

skeletors_condom posted:

MMO server sizes are not written into the constitution.



I mean, technically everyone here is correct, but A) CIG promised a lot of things that really require higher player counts like capital ship battles, and B) it's been done. PlanetSide, MAG, Battlefield, and any given battle royale already show you can have 100s to 1000s of players in the same area.

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Hobbergosher posted:

uh... did we know that there's more from "Doctor Jade"?

From 4 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5gi6u3/prisoner_compliance_and_escape_mitigation_helpful/

They keep referencing their deep knowledge of "soviet medical experiments"





edit: Trying to fathom the feeling of disappointment that Doctor Jade will experience when some patch notes drop that say bounty hunting is like, some click through bullshit and you don't get to uh, manage the bodies.

Dr. Jade, the first Stimperor

Hobbergosher
Jun 30, 2007

Another day in paradise
Well this is certainly one of the more disturbing people I've ever encountered on the internet

commando in tophat
Sep 5, 2019

Hobbergosher posted:

Well this is certainly one of the more disturbing people I've ever encountered on the internet



I'm 99% sure it's a morbidly obese dude somewhere in the basement 1% he's not morbidly obese

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Play posted:

Are characters in zero g when they are inside their spacecraft and it isn't moving? When the spacecraft is accelerating does the "back" of the spacecraft become the floor or is there a magic gravity field on anything and everything that somehow keeps it at 1 G?

If you're in a ship the gravity goo always point you in the proper floor direction. It doesn't matter if your ship is accelerating or out of power.
If you're in a planet but outside a ship the gravity points towards the center of a planet
If you're in a space station that has artificial gravity then gravity points towards a universal "down" (all space stations rest on the same plane so this down is always the floor)

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

The Titanic posted:

I too wrote a thesis about bodily torture in video games.

Here it is in its entirety:

That one shine in Super Mario Sunshine where you have to do multiple wall jumps while fighting the camera.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 13, 2021

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


trucutru posted:

If you're in a ship the gravity goo always point you in the proper floor direction. It doesn't matter if your ship is accelerating or out of power.
If you're in a planet but outside a ship the gravity points towards the center of a planet
If you're in a space station that has artificial gravity then gravity points towards a universal "down" (all space stations rest on the same plane so this down is always the floor)

The gravity goo works in exactly the way that CryEngine's default physics grids handle gravity.

It was an extremely lucky coincidence for the team and it's why they can never, ever, change the engine

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Sarsapariller posted:

The gravity goo works in exactly the way that CryEngine's default physics grids handle gravity.

It was an extremely lucky coincidence for the team and it's why they can never, ever, change the engine

Except by flipping a switch, like last time.

cmdrk
Jun 10, 2013
they'd have much better lore if they leaned into the inconsistencies and accepted every sociopath's dreams.txt as canon. a far-flung future where the average citizen spends his day avoiding the castration hungry bounty hunters and chairs that make them 10% smaller every time they sit in them. behold the splendor of a city planet, mass converted into a giant parking lot within 80 years as cheaply as possible: millions of copy-pasted buildings with t-posing bartenders in them. the democratically elected emperor struggles to rediscover the technology needed to build space ships in space, in a world that appears to be the future of 1996. an elite cabal of space yacht owners actively work to prevent the proliferation of gravity goo technology, so that only the most elite can move their cargo without hand trucks. a string of murders leave space police befuddled: victims are found in a cave, dismembered with their body parts neatly packed into small container boxes. The boxes are covered in a child's fingerprints, and wine glasses are left at the scene. After the nuclear holocausts of the distant past, hot dogs remained the only viable food source for most citizens. Those seeking a better life enter the military to enjoy fidelitous beans and toast in the fleet's finest cafeterias while gary parpman delivers speeches about how before there is victory there is struggle.

answer the call.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

trucutru posted:

If you're in a ship the gravity goo always point you in the proper floor direction. It doesn't matter if your ship is accelerating or out of power.
If you're in a planet but outside a ship the gravity points towards the center of a planet
If you're in a space station that has artificial gravity then gravity points towards a universal "down" (all space stations rest on the same plane so this down is always the floor)

That's a shame. Would be pretty cool to even have a toggle for artificial gravity that you could turn on and off or something.

I assume you can go outside your ship, at which points you also have the same basic 0 gravity properties as your ship?

Hobbergosher posted:

Unfortunately groin is not listed and the system is described as percentage based so castration options may be limited,

Holy poo poo nice find lol. Basically the same stuff but the level this gal is taking this to is hilarious. Little motherfucking Mengele-in-training is what we got here

Star Citizen: So castration options may be limited,

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

quote:

We are 9 years into this project come October... imagine how many times people told CIG and this community 'it can't be done'... 'the money will run out it can't go on forever'.. the amazing growth of support will dry up. Well, after all those doomsayers look what happened:



We are on course for another record year this year.

CIG took the time to make the tools that build this game, they did the R&D in a way most game development companies wouldn't even consider, knowing that it would take time and money. The whole point of this project - why EA aren't making this game for example - is that we allow them the time and money to make the very best, indeed this community demanded the BDDSE (Best drat Space Space Simulator Ever).

All the times people said that CIG would never achieve what they said they were going to try, and yet here we are. Yes it seems to take a long time, but more and more even newcomers are realising - it is worth it to take the time to get it right. It is worth the time and the money. Those who seem to insist that gamers are short-sighted, impatient and narrow focused for their particular game genre niche are just plain wrong, they can't accept that they are the minority in this community, a community who came together to give every gamer the experience they always dreamed of, a living breathing universe they could experience whole lifetimes in.

There will always be the impatient voices, there will always be the few who are not satisfied, but one thing this community knows for sure, CIG will do what they set out to do and when they do it will be fantastic, better than anyone ever thought it would be. Hold onto your hat and don't get bogged down by details - quiet times in development are not unusual, and it's amazing how quickly we forget content droughts when we see what they can achieve given the time and support.

Some of us joined this project when we didn't even have a ship or a hangar to walk around, we can tell you it's not game loops, noisy complaints, features or marketing that builds the very best experience - it's the dreamers. They are the ones who make dreams come true. When the dream is good you don't want it to end quickly, and it allows time for more and more come to join in the dream. Imagine if this game had been finished in 2014 the way some demand it would just be an old memory forgotten with the next blockbuster release, there would have been but a few 10's of thousands of us - now we have millions helping to make the BDSSE.
People point at Chris Roberts and say he can't manage a project and stop feature creep, it wasn't him it was this community - we were asked do you want to stop and settle for what was originally planned and almost everyone (80%+) said a big loud NO! keep going! Make the very best we can make!

Ask yourself.. what would you have answered knowing what we have now and what is to come? There was no possibility of whole planets and moons in 2014, there was no possibility of a gas giant planet.. do you think we were right to say keep going and tell Chris we'll wait for the very best gaming experience ever that no other game producer would even attempt?

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire
Should I watch this? ("Sandi & Chris: Checking In", July 1, 2021.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bb4kBwa2iM

Or can I read the highlights in the past couple of pages?

skeletors_condom
Jul 21, 2017

Beexoffel posted:

Should I watch this? ("Sandi & Chris: Checking In", July 1, 2021.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bb4kBwa2iM

Or can I read the highlights in the past couple of pages?

It's pretty poo poo. The only big takeaway is Crobear is moving to Manchester to finish SQ42 by 2022 or something.

There is nothing new in this video in terms of entertainment and it got boring really fast.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

skeletors_condom posted:

It's pretty poo poo. The only big takeaway is Crobear is moving to Manchester to finish SQ42 by 2022 or something.

There is nothing new in this video in terms of entertainment and it got boring really fast.

Thanks! Then I'll leave it at that and look forward to seeing SQ42 released next year.

"The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients." - let me not start rubbing early.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Play posted:

That's a shame. Would be pretty cool to even have a toggle for artificial gravity that you could turn on and off or something.

I assume you can go outside your ship, at which points you also have the same basic 0 gravity properties as your ship?

Holy poo poo nice find lol. Basically the same stuff but the level this gal is taking this to is hilarious. Little motherfucking Mengele-in-training is what we got here

Star Citizen: So castration options may be limited,


There is a station where you can turn off the gravity. This works because in stations the "artificial gravity" is just cryengine's default behaviour.

When you go outside your ship you either go into zero gravity mode in space or fall down if you're in a planet.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002


"We"? Citizens really think they ARE part of CIG and not just its customers, don't they.

Bingemoose
Mar 24, 2014

Hurr Durr muts saf gotam cety

Hobbergosher posted:

Well this is certainly one of the more disturbing people I've ever encountered on the internet



It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





From context clues it seems that their version of a team shooter, Theaters of War, I think it was called, was released? Is that the case? How bad was it? Was it good enough to get Rockzilla the Red Bull guy back on the team?

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

IncredibleIgloo posted:

From context clues it seems that their version of a team shooter, Theaters of War, I think it was called, was released? Is that the case? How bad was it? Was it good enough to get Rockzilla the Red Bull guy back on the team?

It absolutely came out in early 2020. Or will do very shortly.

They farmed it out to a contractor so nothing can go wrong.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

IncredibleIgloo posted:

From context clues it seems that their version of a team shooter, Theaters of War, I think it was called, was released? Is that the case? How bad was it? Was it good enough to get Rockzilla the Red Bull guy back on the team?

It was on the test servers for a while 3 hours, but was pulled to go back into development. After assuring everyone it would only take a few months to finish, they released this update 2 months ago, which basically boiled down to "Don't expect to see it released (or even hear anything more about it) for a long, long time": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDSEPsMX9w4

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 13, 2021

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

IncredibleIgloo posted:

From context clues it seems that their version of a team shooter, Theaters of War, I think it was called, was released? Is that the case? How bad was it? Was it good enough to get Rockzilla the Red Bull guy back on the team?

Despite being shown off at Citcon 2019 (and had a playable demo there) and promising it would be in "your hands" in a few months it was never actually meant to be released to the public. It was always just an internal testing tool and they performed the tests they wanted (it was poo poo). But I guess since you all somehow where mistaken in thinking this was going to be a new game mode that was actually playable they will with your money let an outside studio work on it.

Enjoy your incredibly broken 20v20 Battlefield knock off sometime in 2022-25.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

MostlyRandom posted:

I think the commandos must have gravity boots (or at least vacuum cleaners attached to their feet ) because inside a ship the floor is always the floor regardless of where the ship is or its orientation and all of the "planets" which are all much smaller than earths moon appear to have 1G when a commando or space golf cart moves over the surface but they have no gravity when a spaceship weighing thousands of tons is magically no clipping upside down 50 feet from the ground.

in reality CIG have given zero thought whatsoever into how gravity actually works, or weight or inertia or acceleration or newtons laws of motion. (sexy)bear in mind that crobber is the guy who thought you could swim in space. I've produced turds that understand space better than the muppets at CIG

SC "physics" are about as realistic as a roadrunner cartoon

They did.

They invented gravity goo, which is some liquid that is pumped though the ship that gives it gravity.

Super Physics reality fidelity.


This is kind of why I say the reality only goes so far as the 4K textures and hyper-poly count models. There is no reality beyond that in the game.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
oh don't mind me, just vigorously patting my own back for throwing all my money into an infinite pit of hunger to own the libs doomsayers

Deskeletonized
Mar 24, 2021
Is it wrong that I kinda wish SC did have castration gameplay? Not because I would play it, but because if it had something, anything unique about it it would be so much more palatable.

For example: the good ship introduced me to the world of erotic games when I was asking about gaming communities. Erotic games aren't for me, but I respect that they exist, they work, and they are competent in fulfilling the desires of specific communities and markets. They serve a purpose.

SC has nothing. Its cripplingly generic conceptual design and basic-rear end "lore" finds expression through broken, incomplete, or non-existent gameplay mechanics. If it was a functioning game about flying around space bounty-hunting people and castrating/de-limbing/human centipede-ing/Stimpire-ing them it would at least have a raison d'être and serve a purpose. As it is, it is like a LARP in which people get to pretend that they will get a game (maybe, someday, if they believe pledge hard enough) and it is just so, so sad.

JackSplater
Nov 20, 2014

Metal Coat? It's already active?!

Popete posted:

Despite being shown off at Citcon 2019 (and had a playable demo there) and promising it would be in "your hands" in a few months it was never actually meant to be released to the public.

Wasn't it meant to be released to that paid streamer so he'd have something to actually try and hype people into playing? And then they stopped paying him and he bailed within a day?

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
I'm just here for the basic rear end-lore

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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

JackSplater posted:

Wasn't it meant to be released to that paid streamer so he'd have something to actually try and hype people into playing? And then they stopped paying him and he bailed within a day?

They flew him to Britain to attend CitCon in 2019 and check out Theaters of War and then a few months later he signed an exclusive Facebook streaming contract and dropped Star Citizen entirely.

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