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JollyBoyJohn posted:The most average videogame I've ever played was Brute Force on the original xbox This is correct. The most 5/10 average generic game I ever played.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:not a dig at you specifically but "the multiplayer was fun" is the most shallow defence of an otherwise irredeemable game No, that's "its fun with friends". A multiplayer mode being good on its own merits is a bar many games don't clear.
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Jul 13, 2021 16:14
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Are we arguing about Mass Effect 3 again?
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Caesar Saladin posted:The best Half Life 2 style game is Resistance 3. Really cool game, I don't think anybody played it but it has unique weapons and a great aesthetic. Resistance 3 is the only Resistance game I've ever finished and that includes Retribution for my PSP and Burning Skies on my Vita. Resistance 3 is really very good.
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Jul 13, 2021 16:36
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Caesar Saladin posted:The best Half Life 2 style game is Resistance 3. Really cool game, I don't think anybody played it but it has unique weapons and a great aesthetic. Resistance 3 sucks in that i really liked the first two and had high hopes for 3 and they were dashed because 3 is the most creatively bankrupt and dull of them. it's Cormac McCarthy's The Road The Movie The Game. And I mean that in the most insultingly derivative way possible. it goes beyond homage and just wholesale lifts gameplay and plot elements from other mediums without ever figuring out how to make them work together. There's an entire not-Ravenholm area with a not-Father Grigori and it is super dull. it never gets what made Ravenholm a fascinating experience. and they staple it to the Half Life 2 Epsiode 2 antlion boss fight who you kill in a scripted sequence meant to resemble the ending of Jaws. and they do the whole fight a helicopter on a bridge segment from HL2 but again without the fun. R3 is a slow methodical game. it lacks the kinetic movement of HL2. also this section feels remarkably like the White Forest but without a car so thats a bummer. there are two levels that are on-rails shooting platforms. one on a boat and one on a train. they are fine once but overstay their welcome on every subsequent playthrough. then the cannibals from The Road show up and the bad guy pulls a "we're the same you and I" bullshit thing. so you get thrown into the Resistance version of the Thunderdome with a sledgehammer and break free to work your way through a Fallout 3 dungeon. the best levels of the game are the last ones because it returns you to the weird pulp scifi aesthetic of the first two games while finally letting you go hog wild with the arcadey weapons. and speaking of weapons, Insomniac really poo poo the bed with R3. nearly ever weapon is a returning one from previous games. only three are new... one is the Cryogun from Ratchet Clank, one is the GES Biorifle from Unreal, and one is a sledgehammer. not even a sledgehammer with a rocket booster or a laser sight or anything... just a sledgehammer. what happened to the creativity? If any of this sounds fun, do not be deceived. the game is exceptionally workmanlike and dull. it's fine. it's standard console FPS fare. when it's done you'll forget it and move one because R3 is forgettable. i wish it couldve been a beautiful disaster because it sucked to end the trilogy on such a whimper. oh also they ruined the paper thin characterization of Capelli to make him a PS3 era Sad Dad protagonist because we needed more of those apparently.
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Jul 13, 2021 17:17
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Resistance 3 is the epitome of a 6/10 AAA shooter.
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Jul 13, 2021 17:18
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Cruelty Squad is kinda shite, innit?
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Jul 13, 2021 21:59
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John Murdoch posted:And then you have the players that 100% self-inflict it on themselves. The types that grind their party to level 99 on disc 1, who spend 5 hours pre-gaming their Elder Scrolls character so they can have max-stats right out of the tutorial or w/e. There's also probably a lot of Yeah, too many RPGs are made completely trivial if you know the One Weird Trick. It could even be just an action RPG that lets you carry hundreds of potions and heal in the pause menu with no cooldown. The only thing that poses a threat is an attack that kills you in one hit. So many games do it, like Dragon’s Dogma, Breath of the Wild, FFXV and Bethesda’s games, because it means you can win any battle through attrition. I think Square Enix is one of my favourite developers because some of their teams actually know how to make good action RPGs. I loved KHII FM, KHIII Remind and FFVIIR, and I’m really looking forward to Neo TWEWY, FFXVI, Strangers of Paradise and the rest of the FFVIIR games. Also, in KH each character can only bring a limited number of items into battle and FFVIIR needs you to spend an ATB gauge to use an item so they’re not completely broken. From Software and Team Ninja are great too, but I don’t want every game to follow the Souls formula. The Data Org XIII battles would be a nightmare if you couldn’t restart them immediately after you died or had to grind for health items.
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Jul 13, 2021 22:21
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to be spilled on the curious dichotomy of "getting all of my characters to level 99 early using every last trick, exploit, glitch, and optimization is just good system mastery" and "use a gameshark to set your party to level 99 instantly? HOW DARE YOU, THAT'S CHEATING". And I wonder how many people eschew just...setting a game to easy because that's for dumb idiot babies only and doesn't stroke your ego. Breaking the game and turning it into a defacto easy mode is for galaxy brained real gamers. Gotta shows those devs who's boss. 
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Archer666 posted:Cruelty Squad is kinda shite, innit? I think it's the kind of game I will pretend I played and enjoyed, being a man of culture and nihilism, but I will never actually play that garbage, no thank you
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Jul 14, 2021 00:08
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JollyBoyJohn posted:not a dig at you specifically but "the multiplayer was fun" is the most shallow defence of an otherwise irredeemable game being fun is literally the only part of a game that matters e: also not giving money to nazis i guess. don't buy brigador
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Jul 14, 2021 04:10
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Playing with friends is fun. That's why a game being fun with friends isn't a huge compliment.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:12
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Fun in multiplayer and fun with friends are different things. But yeah it's easy enough to have fun playing with your friends even in a terrible game that you all know is terrible, as long as it's not terrible in an actively frustrating way.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:21
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Playing lovely games with friends isn't fun.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:29
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That's when lovely games are the most fun. Just look at Minecraft
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Jul 14, 2021 04:29
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:being fun is literally the only part of a game that matters I bought Brigador at one point let's see how bad ... https://twitter.com/mithaldu/status/1276491006431674376?lang=en I'm not going to spoil it but SA gets a mention. Well an SA maybe not the SA. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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Jul 14, 2021 04:31
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The brigador team 'fired' him when all that came to light, then they kind of just hush-hush brought him back in just recently for the latest expansion or whatever it is (he's the other main dev's brother afaik). But death of the author is a thing, you don't have to feel bad about not uninstalling the game or whatever... just don't give your money to its devs anymore.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:34
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Wellp, I was looking forward to that expansion. Shan't be buying. Also, Half-Life 2 is only fun these days if you mod it. Something like SMOD that adds shitloads of enemies to the maps and peppers them with ridiculous weapons from various other games makes it great again.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:48
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:The brigador team 'fired' him when all that came to light, then they kind of just hush-hush brought him back in just recently for the latest expansion or whatever it is (he's the other main dev's brother afaik). Don't worry I don't feel bad about it. Like you can't possibly be expected to know every company that's offensive and to what degree but I certainly like to know.
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Jul 14, 2021 04:49
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The whole "fun with friends/fun with multiplayer" thing is just a phrase Rust and Sea of Thieves players say to themselves
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Jul 14, 2021 08:47
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Both the Wolfenstien reboot games suck, and while I respect the power move of exploiting the hell out of irl out and proud Nazis for maximum marketability, review scores and sales, TNC was a badly designed pile of poo poo and TNO wasn't much better. People saying it it was a "return to form" for shooters was the dumbest poo poo. They are bog standard shooters from the Xbox 360 era that I guess are supposed to feel "old school" by making ammo annoying to pick up off the ground and occasionally designing vaguely arena-like encounters (around level design that isn't even remotely arena like). Both of them are a showcase of bad level design, bad encounter design, bad storytelling and good marketing. They were both borderline painful to play though even though the shooting mechanics rock.
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Jul 14, 2021 09:59
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Yakuza 0 This got hyped up to me beyond belief And I'm left thinking is this it? Average combat that manages to feel to slow and too fast at the same time. Blocking feels useless due to it being directional and wind up animation just taking ages that enemies are able to get a cancelling jab in. I've looked up videos of "high level" combat and it never looks or feels like a combo, there isn't any fluidity or slickness and nothing beats three button combos from just one combat style. And anything beyond that is ineffective or poorly conveyed So many side activities that are poorly explained. I tried to play baccarat and just got given 5-7 pages of text? Good job tutorialising. I'm complaining somewhat about the quantity of the side activities, but if it had a decent tutorial on them I wouldn't mind so much. I play one round of telephone club , or baseball or Japanese solitaire and I'm just lost and don't wanna continue with it. Pocket car racing seems fun but I went through the tutorial and have no idea about it, If these side activities actually explained I might enjoy them more, which is annoying because it seems like I need to master real estate Royale and hostess clubbing to fully upgrade my characters as everyone tells me it gets better when you fully upgrade the combat. also only one Sega Game in a Sega arcade? Jesus, GTA SA did this better The camp is great but really inconsistent. The initial characterising of mijima and kiryu is rad as hell. And I like the idea of big campy 80s japanaventure . But it just whiplashes between. Super somber and just , kinda goofy , rather than any sort of humorous exaggeration , every time I hear a synth chime or walkin round acoustic slap guitar it just kills any momentum I had from what is a kinda neat idea for a story Majima's super polite host cum badass ex Yakuza is cool but it is under cut by almost all the dialogue he has "Wow, kuze just chopped off his finger in contrition" ... ... "And I'm not having to memorise cult lingo to break out a softcore pornstar from a cult....and this end with a spammed three button combo fight" There is something really cool here, city block scale 80s Yakuza with endless side shenanigans seems like a slam dunk but I'm just bored. It's keeping my attention by the world just being nice to look at and the business management side quests directly incentivising engaging with the world in a fun way
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I mean, that's Yakuza tbh. You either dig it or you don't. I recommend just skipping side activities that don't interest you and it will grow on you as you keep playing, or you'll get too bored to continue.
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Caesar Saladin posted:I mean, that's Yakuza tbh. You either dig it or you don't. I recommend just skipping side activities that don't interest you and it will grow on you as you keep playing, or you'll get too bored to continue. I think the thing that is annoying me the most is that I can see some really good in it that is something novel in a world of GTAs ,Far Crys ,assassin's Creed and witchers I really want to love it Why doesn't it let me love it
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Jul 14, 2021 13:24
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It's this for the next 6 games.
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Jul 14, 2021 13:26
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Yakuza is a good game trapped inside a bad game
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Jul 14, 2021 13:26
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Jestery posted:I think the thing that is annoying me the most is that I can see some really good in it that is something novel in a world of GTAs ,Far Crys ,assassin's Creed and witchers Lol that might be because you're playing a straight jrpg.
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Jul 14, 2021 13:29
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Every Yakuza game seems to have parts that drag badly, but after I'm finished I only remember the good parts.
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Jul 14, 2021 13:32
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Yakuza 7's english voice acting, is very, very good. The actors are really into it and they really get Yakuza. I switched to english as a curiosity just before the Sujimon professor and boy did that pay off.
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Jul 14, 2021 13:39
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There is nothing done amazingly well with the Yakuza games, Zero is pretty humorous but apparently they dropped that for the rest of the series, the fighting feels poo poo, the city is quite detailed and nice to walk around, the plot is so-so, I bet if you took the exact same game and set it in a non asian country and named the main character Kevin instead of Kiryru, all the weebs who seem to obsess over every game wouldn't give a poo poo anymore. It is amusing how much it annoys Yakuza fans when you say your happy to run through them in 20 hours rather than devoting an extra 100 to a bunch of mini games and weird side stories though. I once had a dude in the Yakuza thread come out with some "oh but did you see side stories 47, 94 and 112" or some poo poo and of course predictably they were the ones involving people stealing ladies underwear or dressing up as a giant baby. Yakuza fans are weird.
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Jul 14, 2021 15:03
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don't you dare talk poo poo about the manbabies
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Jul 14, 2021 15:11
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tripwood posted:don't you dare talk poo poo about the manbabies i didn't really want to bring it up because the underwear stealing was far more typical of what you would call pervy japanese culture but the dude seemed to think this was a loving highlight of the game or something
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Jul 14, 2021 15:12
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Whenever i play a yakuza game I go into a bit of a weird haze and somehow end up with all the sub stories done 70 hours later.
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Jul 14, 2021 15:19
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After playing through like 5 sub stories in yakuza 0 I felt like I'd seen them all
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Jul 14, 2021 19:08
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tuo posted:Best car combat still is Interstate 76. That game was so awesome. An excellent example of a general aesthetic being created by leaning into the limitations of a system's graphical capability. It looked rad as hell
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Jul 14, 2021 22:07
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Just found out that speedrunners of Super Mario Galaxy use a technique named the "Wet Nut Jump" to bypass much of the game which has immediately made Super Mario Galaxy the most underrated game of all time.
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Jul 14, 2021 22:16
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I know that Super Mario Galaxy is overrated, but no one is giving the Wet Nut Jump enough credit.
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Jul 14, 2021 22:17
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https://smo-speedrun.fandom.com/wiki/Nut_jumping
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Jul 14, 2021 22:18
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In Doom 2 speedrunning you can do something called an 'over the shoulder boulder holder' if you've got two pain elementals or cacodemons right next to each other near a ledge.
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Jul 14, 2021 22:36
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:In Doom 2 speedrunning you can do something called an 'over the shoulder boulder holder' if you've got two pain elementals or cacodemons right next to each other near a ledge. Basically a reverse-reacharound then?
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The next billion dollar Indie game will be a spiritual sequel to Shut Up And Jam Gaiden where you travel through time to assemble a team of the Greatests of All Time. By the end you travel to Neo-Olympus with greats such as Wayne Gretzky, Yogi Berra, Zinedine Zidane and Muggsy Bogues to put a stop to Zeus and the rest of the Olympics once and for all. I know this because I am already halfway done with the script.
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