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Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
Odlaw was first seen in the cartoon, which was an american production and as theres no good backwards name for Wally i guess they just kept it the same because odlaw sounds fine for the waluigi version of wally anyway why rerecord stuff you don't need to.

Edit oh poo poo i'm deep into a Wheres Wally lore wiki because i wanted to check the air date of the cartoon and I'm only now learning that Wally's original girlfriend Wilma appeared in like one book and in the rest of the series Wally's hooked up with her twin sister Wenda. What the gently caress happened between those books Wally?

Mr Phillby fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jul 14, 2021

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Why was his name even changed? Wally is more of a normal-sounding name than Waldo, so I dunno if they were going for something, or if Wally was some obscure insult in the US back when the books first came over. Kinda like how Avatar dropped the whole Last Airbender subtitle in the UK.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I feel like back in those days there were way more arbitrary regional changes. Since things are a lot more global these days, they seem to avoid it most of the time since it would usually do more damage to the brand on balance. And also they probably focus test it for global appeal beforehand anyway. The exception being when there's a trademark or brand recognition issue in one specific region but not really anywhere else and it can be handled pretty easily (i.e. "Avengers Assemble")

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
The issue with Avatar: The Last Airbender was something about "bender" being some obscure British slang for gay people. Then the movie dropped the "Avatar" part because it was coming out right in the wake of the blue catpeople phenomenon, so no idea what they did there.

Bear Sleuth
Jul 17, 2011

Pants Donkey posted:

Why was his name even changed? Wally is more of a normal-sounding name than Waldo, so I dunno if they were going for something, or if Wally was some obscure insult in the US back when the books first came over. Kinda like how Avatar dropped the whole Last Airbender subtitle in the UK.

Wally in the UK has connotations of someone who's a little scatterbrained or absentminded while in the states it just sounds like a regular name. The change is an attempt to preserve the original flavor. Plus it sounds better. :colbert:

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles is the funniest one.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Groovelord Neato posted:

Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles is the funniest one.

I'm a big fan of Canada's insistence that Beast Wars be changed to Beasties.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

ReBoot, a show made in canada, being told it can't mention 'hockey' again because it's rude slang in some parts of the world will always be funny.

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010

Fil5000 posted:

I'm a big fan of Canada's insistence that Beast Wars be changed to Beasties.

Beasties was made in Canada, so it's ya'll that decided to call it Beast Wars instead :colbert:

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack

Fil5000 posted:

I'm a big fan of Canada's insistence that Beast Wars be changed to Beasties.

That said, the same studio needing to rename "War Planets" "Shadow Raiders" for the Canadian market was an overall improvement in name quality.

Yardbomb posted:

ReBoot, a show made in canada, being told it can't mention 'hockey' again because it's rude slang in some parts of the world will always be funny.

I think that was a directive imposed on them by the ABC network when they were still associated with it. I remember the studio had a lot of difficulties dealing with the American Broadcast Standards and Practices when they were producing the show for ABC, to the point that they kept slipping not-so-subtle digs at the network into the first two seasons. There was one episode in season 1 that centred around Dot trying to schedule entertainment for Enzo's birthday and she had to work with a Binome introduced as a "censor" who rejects any of the acts Dot likes for increasingly inane reasons. The only act the censor wholeheartedly approves of is a performance by an obvious riff on The Village People singing a song about how awesome "BS&P" (Broadcast Standards and Practices) is.

Also in the last episode of the second season (Which was the last season of the show produced for ABC) there's a sequence where Megabyte double-crosses the protagonists after forming an uneasy alliance with them and orders a bunch of his military vehicles, called "Armored Binome Carries", to attack the protagonists. There this shot of one of the her4o-aligned background characters reacting to this turn of events by shouting "It's the ABCs! They6've turned on us!", which the creators later admitted was a direct jab at their poor experience working with the network.

After being dropped by ABC and being primarily produced for Canadian network YTV, the show got noticeably darker in tone and was able to get away with a lot more in terms of violence and suggestive content. The first episode of season 3 specifically had the characters dealing with a game cube that was a send-up of Evil Dead that involved a lot more violence than the show could previously get away with, and also had Dot wearing a very suggestive Elvira outfit.

Basically what I'm getting at is that Canadian broadcast standards are generally more lax about the content of animated shows, but get really weird about what they do choose to crack down on. Beast Wars/Beasties had a ton of gratuitous robot-violence, with characters regularly being blown apart and shot to smithereens and the Canadian networks were like "Sweet, awesome, go ahead!" but when it came to the program's actual title they were all "Whoah whoah whoah, I think having the word 'war' in the title might be a little too violent for our intended audience..."

FreezingInferno
Jul 15, 2010

THERE.
WILL.
BE.
NO.
BATTLE.
HERE!
Canadian broadcast standards also looked at all those horrific workplace safety ads where people get blown up or have their faces melted with boiling grease and went "yes these are fine to air at 7 in the evenings".

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

FreezingInferno posted:

Canadian broadcast standards also looked at all those horrific workplace safety ads where people get blown up or have their faces melted with boiling grease and went "yes these are fine to air at 7 in the evenings".

Oh I think that's something you're obliged to do as part of the commonwealth. The PSAs that used to get aired over here in the UK in the 70s and 80s were frequently like short horror films and they'd get dumped wherever there was ten minutes in the schedule that the broadcaster didn't have anything for. Here's a supercut of Apaches, a PSA about not playing on farms in which a lot of kids die in horrible ways!

https://youtu.be/_we-3Uqu5sw

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KryOYburlFI

Oh Jimmy...

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I wish my (re)introduction to terrifying PSAs wasnt through Nostalgia Critic

Fil5000 posted:

Oh I think that's something you're obliged to do as part of the commonwealth. The PSAs that used to get aired over here in the UK in the 70s and 80s were frequently like short horror films and they'd get dumped wherever there was ten minutes in the schedule that the broadcaster didn't have anything for. Here's a supercut of Apaches, a PSA about not playing on farms in which a lot of kids die in horrible ways!

https://youtu.be/_we-3Uqu5sw

Jesus christ I forgot about the girl offscreen crying for her mother while she dies from weedkiller burning up her insides.

FreezingInferno
Jul 15, 2010

THERE.
WILL.
BE.
NO.
BATTLE.
HERE!
how were British kids in the 70's not absolutely terrified of going outside

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Him and that sodding Frisbee. I was terrified of substations despite never even remotely getting the chance to go near one.

DeafNote posted:

I wish my (re)introduction to terrifying PSAs wasnt through Nostalgia Critic

Jesus christ I forgot about the girl offscreen crying for her mother while she dies from weedkiller burning up her insides.

They're all horrible but I think the slurry drowning is the worst.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

FreezingInferno posted:

how were British kids in the 70's not absolutely terrified of going outside

https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Astar the Robot from Planet Danger PSA was great.

Also those workplace safety PSAs Canada did very quickly turned from the outright horror of a woman getting her face boiled off in a kitchen to black comedy where a man is impaled on rebar, gets back up and then starts lecturing his colleagues.

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack

Arcsquad12 posted:

Astar the Robot from Planet Danger PSA was great.

I came to a realization recently that, in hindsight, I have no idea what kind of message Astar was trying to teach children. It was produced by The War Amps, a nonprofit that provides support and assistance to amputees but it wasn't really trying to raise awareness about the people it was trying to help or tackle any particular thing that tends to lead to amputation, it was basically just saying "Hey kids, don't get your arm chopped off by accident!" which is the sort of message you can only respond to with a confused "Uh...sure?".

Also, what was up with all those Canadian PSAs from the late 80s/early 90s trying to get kids not to cram whatever poo poo they happen to find lying on the ground into their gaping maws? I can remember three distinct PSAs from my childhood that tackled that subject that all aired around the same time: There was the iconic "Don'tcha Put it in Your Mouth" PSA, another one about a mom reading a story about a family of raccoons to her kid and a third one where two mouse puppets stumble across a mouse trap and the one of them says they should go ask someone they trust before touching it. Was there some kind of epidemic in the late 80s of Canadian children eating anything and everything they stumbled across?

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.



Don't.

Queer Salutations
Aug 20, 2009

kind of a shitty wizard...

KingKalamari posted:

I came to a realization recently that, in hindsight, I have no idea what kind of message Astar was trying to teach children. It was produced by The War Amps, a nonprofit that provides support and assistance to amputees but it wasn't really trying to raise awareness about the people it was trying to help or tackle any particular thing that tends to lead to amputation, it was basically just saying "Hey kids, don't get your arm chopped off by accident!" which is the sort of message you can only respond to with a confused "Uh...sure?".

Also, what was up with all those Canadian PSAs from the late 80s/early 90s trying to get kids not to cram whatever poo poo they happen to find lying on the ground into their gaping maws? I can remember three distinct PSAs from my childhood that tackled that subject that all aired around the same time: There was the iconic "Don'tcha Put it in Your Mouth" PSA, another one about a mom reading a story about a family of raccoons to her kid and a third one where two mouse puppets stumble across a mouse trap and the one of them says they should go ask someone they trust before touching it. Was there some kind of epidemic in the late 80s of Canadian children eating anything and everything they stumbled across?

I'm guessing they counted towards the percentage of Canadian content that each station was required to air and were much cheaper than full length content.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

The batman who laughs is fine if you don't take it seriously and treat it as comic book camp and that's how the Death Metal events treated him and the "evil batmen" idea too imo. The problem is that a lot of other writers took the idea more seriously and it crossed the line from campy exaggeration to grimdark instead

Also Snyders JL run was great and had the coolest Superman moment in recent memory

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

KingKalamari posted:

After being dropped by ABC and being primarily produced for Canadian network YTV, the show got noticeably darker in tone and was able to get away with a lot more in terms of violence and suggestive content. The first episode of season 3 specifically had the characters dealing with a game cube that was a send-up of Evil Dead that involved a lot more violence than the show could previously get away with, and also had Dot wearing a very suggestive Elvira outfit.

Indeed, Dot could finally be modeled to have an actual bosom instead of a weird solid shelf on her chest because you can't actually have breasts on a cartoon character. And she couldn't hug Enzo because that would be incestuous which... said a lot about whatever S&P decided that.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

KingKalamari posted:

Basically what I'm getting at is that Canadian broadcast standards are generally more lax about the content of animated shows, but get really weird about what they do choose to crack down on. Beast Wars/Beasties had a ton of gratuitous robot-violence, with characters regularly being blown apart and shot to smithereens and the Canadian networks were like "Sweet, awesome, go ahead!" but when it came to the program's actual title they were all "Whoah whoah whoah, I think having the word 'war' in the title might be a little too violent for our intended audience..."

Yeah, the example I cite repeatedly is War Planets getting whacked for having "war" in its title and rebranded as Shadow Raiders, but the CRTC had no problem with it portraying straight up genocide, cultural diaspora, and unvarnished depictions and criticism of racial animus and nationalism.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

I found another one! This guy explains technical details behind old games. This one is about the thing you may have seen speedrunners do, where they do a bunch of crazy stuff with Yoshi that makes the level end early.

https://youtu.be/1SGfYkXoGjg

Let me know if this guy is a eugenicist.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
I completely missed this great breakdown from Sideways of a Stephen Soundheim classic, Into the Woods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6OEjF4s1M

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Nuns with Guns posted:

I completely missed this great breakdown from Sideways of a Stephen Soundheim classic, Into the Woods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6OEjF4s1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6uH1ruRx1M

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

My backyard is a giant backyard!! *sobs*

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Jose's newest sitcom retrospective is out and its on The Cosby Show.

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !
In the UK, Sgt. Slaughter (as the GI Joe character/toy, not the actual wrestler) was called Sgt. Slammer, while in some other parts of Europe he was called Sgt. Driller, since the word "Slaughter" was just deemed too violent I guess.

In Belgium, the Steve Martin/Rick Moranis comedy "My Blue Heaven" was renamed "The Foolish Captive" because there was already a (bad) Belgian movie with that name.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

Bad Wolf posted:

In Belgium, the Steve Martin/Rick Moranis comedy "My Blue Heaven" was renamed "The Foolish Captive" because there was already a (bad) Belgian movie with that name.

in Germany "Moana" was renamed into "Vaiana" because the original title shares a name with a documentary about a porn actress

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I think thats the case for a lot of European countries like mine as well.

We also used 'Le Mans 66' instead of Ford VS Ferrari, though I dont know which one is the original title.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe
See, I thought "Le Mans '66" was a more evocative/ interesting title than "Ford v Ferrari," which made me think more of a certain superhero-movie-turned-meme than anything else. Gotta dumb it down for the Yanks, I guess.

Bad Wolf posted:

In the UK, Sgt. Slaughter (as the GI Joe character/toy, not the actual wrestler) was called Sgt. Slammer, while in some other parts of Europe he was called Sgt. Driller, since the word "Slaughter" was just deemed too violent I guess.

Even as a kid I thought this was just the weirdest cross-promotion.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
If I'm remembering rightly, a lot of the UK censorship stuff was due to a larger hysteria going on at the time around the content of media, spearheaded in particular by one Mary Whitehouse.

There's a lotta stories from around that era of the weird, weird directions creatives would have to take to get things past the reactionary fossils on regulation boards.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

SteelMentor posted:

If I'm remembering rightly, a lot of the UK censorship stuff was due to a larger hysteria going on at the time around the content of media, spearheaded in particular by one Mary Whitehouse.

There's a lotta stories from around that era of the weird, weird directions creatives would have to take to get things past the reactionary fossils on regulation boards.

this aint CineD, but I highly recommend the movie Censor if anyone is interested in the video nasty era.

RLM did a review but seriously, just go watch it.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010


That Batman cartoon is underrated. I kinda get it being between BTAS and The Brave and the Bold but man I liked it.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Also on PSAs this was the one that got me growing up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FwLlKpKjHU

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

PSAs are awesome. I tried making a PYF thread for them once but it fizzled out. Here’s a good complation from a channel with lots of good PSA compilations.

https://youtu.be/AhY0orOFSmc

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I feel like I asked before, dunno got deja Vu about the question, did anyone ever make a good video on why people hate Scrappy Doo so much? Even as a kid I eventually picked up on the formula that it's always someone in a costume so I was always on his side.

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Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

RareAcumen posted:

I feel like I asked before, dunno got deja Vu about the question, did anyone ever make a good video on why people hate Scrappy Doo so much? Even as a kid I eventually picked up on the formula that it's always someone in a costume so I was always on his side.

There’s definitely a video about this that also goes into how completely artificial and hindsight the hate actually is, but I cannot for the life of me remember who did it or what it was called

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