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I always take relief with my longest club, which is my 15 foot ball retriever.
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I have only seen stakes at high end courses. The normal community whack and crack never has them. I will continue to play the rule as: - 1 stroke and a drop for cranking it into an unrecoverable hazard - 2 strokes and a drop if "I know it's around here somewhere but it hosed off to mordor and the group behind us is approaching the tee, gently caress it we don't have time to look for it." - Relief will be measured as lazily lofting a ball vaguely towards the fairway Unless the hazards are clearly staked.
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Jul 14, 2021 23:11
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I guess it's not intuitively clear to me why it's 2 strokes in the "this ball should in principle be findable, I just hit it slightly off the fairway, but there are leaves on the ground / it's a weird time of day and I don't want to hold up pace of play" situation. Seems like that's the less egregious scenario. Maybe this explains why I sometimes see groups in front of me looking for a ball for *ever*.
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Jul 15, 2021 00:54
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Especially since dunking it into water is only a stroke. what I'm saying is, let me crank it into the woods for only one penalty stroke, dammit!
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Jul 15, 2021 01:19
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Yea the courses around me don’t have stakes so I will climb a mountain or put on my SCUBA tank and play it as it lies as god intended. E: and shoot a 105
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Jul 15, 2021 01:24
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IANARO, but I believe the confusion lies in when the new rule applies. Here's a link, including a video. BUT, here's the relevant information: quote:If you hit your ball out of bounds or lose it (you have three minutes to search for your ball before it becomes lost), your only option is to go back to the spot of your previous stroke to play under stroke and distance. The only exceptions to this are if your ball is lost in a penalty area (when you can use any of the penalty area relief options) or lost in an abnormal ground condition or in an obstruction. So old rules: 1. Hit ball OB off tee. 2. Re-tee. 3. Hit again off the tee for your third stroke. New rules: 1. Hit ball OB off tee. 2a. Re-tee if you want, hitting 3rd. OR 2b. Estimate where it went in, find the nearest edge of the fairway, hit your 4th shot from there.
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Jul 15, 2021 03:26
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What’s the actual rule on a provisional ball? You hit a terrible tee shot, then hit a provisional. If you can’t find your ball, you’re allowed to just use the provisional and you lie 3? What if your provisional is great and you find your original tee shot up against a tree or something equally terrible? Do you have to play it?
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Jul 15, 2021 07:05
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RCarr posted:What’s the actual rule on a provisional ball? You hit a terrible tee shot, then hit a provisional. If you can’t find your ball, you’re allowed to just use the provisional and you lie 3? I think your first part is right, yes. It’s the same scenario as if you hit one OB. The provisional shot just speeds up play so you don’t have to go back to the tee box after not finding your first. I’ve always wondered the 2nd part though. My gut tells me you have to play your first shot.
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Jul 15, 2021 07:17
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DoctaFun posted:I think your first part is right, yes. It’s the same scenario as if you hit one OB. The provisional shot just speeds up play so you don’t have to go back to the tee box after not finding your first. I’d assume you can’t, because if you could do that you’d just hit a provisional ball every time your ball wasn’t on the fairway.
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Jul 15, 2021 07:29
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I'm almost certain the "hit a provisional but find your first/your first is safe" situation means you must play your first, yeah.
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Jul 15, 2021 07:30
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You must play the first as you find it or else suffer playing under a 'wrong ball' penalty (2 every stroke)
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Jul 15, 2021 11:51
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It's weird because I'm pretty sure you're allowed to hit another ball under "stroke and distance" relief at literally any time for any reason, but the rules on when you're allowed to use a provisional are way more convoluted.
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Jul 15, 2021 14:30
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On one hand it doesn’t make much sense that you can’t just use the provisional. On the other it would lead to people constantly hitting 2 balls to compare them later.
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Jul 15, 2021 15:15
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AndrewP posted:Especially since dunking it into water is only a stroke. Yeah it seems silly to me too. Most of the muni courses I’m on don’t actually have markings for penalty areas so it is up to me, the self-assigned course committee, to designate those areas, and that means those woods and brush over there is a penalty area. One stroke.
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Jul 15, 2021 19:39
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 https://twitter.com/golfweek/status/1415722504337989634?s=20
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Jul 15, 2021 20:56
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Summit posted:On one hand it doesn’t make much sense that you can’t just use the provisional. On the other it would lead to people constantly hitting 2 balls to compare them later. How? The circumstances when lying 1 in a bad lie are worse than lying 3 in the fairway are few. Punching out to the fairway leaves one lying two with the ability to advance the ball further than even a good drive. Yeah, there are times when it would be a clear advantage, but you're at best putting yourself in position to play for bogey.
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Jul 15, 2021 20:57
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Incase anyone forgot that he's a total d bag read this.
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Jul 15, 2021 21:00
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Hasn't done his official review video yet but Rick Shiels talked about the Garmin R10 on his podcast and gave glowing feedback on it. Found it very close to a GCQuad's numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtRjH3fYM4&t=1541s
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Jul 15, 2021 21:24
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torgeaux posted:How? The circumstances when lying 1 in a bad lie are worse than lying 3 in the fairway are few. Punching out to the fairway leaves one lying two with the ability to advance the ball further than even a good drive. I believe the rule is pretty clear. You are supposed to mark the provisional ball, and you can only use it if your original ball cannot be found or is found out of bounds.
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Jul 15, 2021 22:18
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daslog posted:I believe the rule is pretty clear. You are supposed to mark the provisional ball, and you can only use it if your original ball cannot be found or is found out of bounds. Sure, but his point was if that wasn't the rule people would just hit two frequently. There aren't many times a provisional lying three would be better than the first ball if it's playable. Hell, even with a drop for unplayable, most of the time better than lying three.
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Jul 15, 2021 22:32
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The shade towards Bryson in this clip is just the best: https://twitter.com/deep_fried_egg/status/1415705257276055563
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Jul 15, 2021 23:20
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kinda stoked bryson is taking the jerk-off crown from reed. bryson is much more enjoyable to dislike.
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Jul 16, 2021 01:22
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Somebody learned how to fade the ball on demand today I mean tomorrow's a new day but today man, today
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Jul 16, 2021 22:27
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Played a new course in central NH today that is maddeningly short. Not full executive par 3 course, but lots of 240-250 yard dogleg par 4s and weird angles, just enough to eliminate my strength (which is distance). Shot a 43 on the front, which might be a best for me, but a 56 on the narrow back after losing about a billion balls in the trees (or the deeply flooded roughs, after all the rain). My dad — also new there — swore off ever playing there again. I was a little more equanimous about playing against type, but it adds a whole level of frustration for sure.
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Jul 16, 2021 22:38
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Got our late summer golf trip all finalized. Alpine Lake Golf Resort in Terra Alta, WV on Friday Fore Sisters Golf Course in Rawlings, Maryland on Saturday Oakland CC in Oakland, MD on Sunday All three really fun courses if you’re in the area. I’m excited.
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Jul 16, 2021 23:01
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Alpine lake looks nice! Take some pics and let me know how it is, it’s only 3 hours from me. I may just have to make that trip this summer. I’m not sure how close it is for you but my group always plans a trip to old stonewall once a year. It’s a really nice course and the clubhouse is a castle!  You also have to make sure to get dinner there. The restaurant in the clubhouse is medieval style with a medieval themed menu. It’s probably the nicest public course I’ve played. It’s really pretty in the fall if you can go when the leafs change. dangling pointer fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 23:24
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dangling pointer posted:Alpine lake looks nice! Take some pics and let me know how it is, it’s only 3 hours from me. I may just have to make that trip this summer. I’ll try to remember. It’s a fun, quirky course for a resort deal. We’ve played it probably a dozen times but only ever in a scramble. The par 3s in particular are a bitch - 3 out of 4 are a 3-5 iron and all have weird greens. quote:I’m not sure how close it is for you but my group always plans a trip to old stonewall once a year. It’s a really nice course and the clubhouse is a castle! This looks rad. We always play a course on the drive out, but we’re coming from Columbus, so this may not be on a great route for that. I go to Pittsburgh every year or two though, I’ll have to remember to swing by here the next time.
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Jul 16, 2021 23:38
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Anno posted:This looks rad. We always play a course on the drive out, but we’re coming from Columbus, so this may not be on a great route for that. I go to Pittsburgh every year or two though, I’ll have to remember to swing by here the next time. Nice, I went to osu. I’m from Youngstown so it’s only less than an hour from me. It’s out of your way coming from Columbus for sure. Definitely worth the stop if you have time when you head to Pittsburgh though.
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Jul 17, 2021 00:13
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Anno posted:Got our late summer golf trip all finalized. sounds like a Deep Creek Lake trip, nice. Anyone have any recc's for OBX? I am playing Kilmarlic but nothing else booked
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Jul 17, 2021 01:38
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had my first clinic day today and the two instructors visibly winced when I said the word shank out loud and would not repeat it. high comedy. then a couple minutes later i'm addressing the ball and another ball comes shooting between my feet at mach 3. turn around to see the poor lady behind me totally frozen in shock. she whispers "was that a shank?" and I just nodded and we both lost it also fixed my shank! was making an axe swing so 10 minutes of the ol' sweep the ball behind the club head away drill and i hit the last 30 or so fine. hopefully i can translate that to the full swing
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Jul 17, 2021 02:28
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Petey posted:Played a new course in central NH today that is maddeningly short. Not full executive par 3 course, but lots of 240-250 yard dogleg par 4s and weird angles, just enough to eliminate my strength (which is distance). Shot a 43 on the front, which might be a best for me, but a 56 on the narrow back after losing about a billion balls in the trees (or the deeply flooded roughs, after all the rain). My dad — also new there — swore off ever playing there again. I was a little more equanimous about playing against type, but it adds a whole level of frustration for sure. You could argue you still have a tremendous distance advantage. Play 5 irons off the tee to hit the second spots on the doglegs.
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Jul 17, 2021 04:53
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I've been playing golf every week with my mom and I just play the forward tees when we go. Having 100 yards or less to every par 4 and 9 iron or less to every par 3 makes for a pretty chill day of golf.
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Jul 17, 2021 05:36
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Internet Savant posted:You could argue you still have a tremendous distance advantage. Play 5 irons off the tee to hit the second spots on the doglegs. That's true, but the way the course is constructed — my brother used the word "claustrophobic" — the trees were so high and so close to the teebox that it was almost impossible to get it over the trees, because with the loft needed you couldn't carry. There was one hole where I could get over with my gap wedge and rimmed out my birdie putt where that would have been advantageous. I'm not complaining, of course — in principle, a short course should be able to be played well if you have distance. Was just weird/interesting to play a small, cramped course doing what it could in a shoebox after spending most of the summer on big, long, wide-open courses.
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Jul 17, 2021 10:06
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Dr. Capco posted:I've been playing golf every week with my mom and I just play the forward tees when we go. Having 100 yards or less to every par 4 and 9 iron or less to every par 3 makes for a pretty chill day of golf. I do the same thing when playing with my wife. She’s a new golfer and the shorter tees make it a lot more fun for her. I know some men will play their own tee but it’s nice to see courses from a different perspective and a lot more social to just play from the same tee.
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Jul 17, 2021 13:42
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Dr. Capco posted:I've been playing golf every week with my mom and I just play the forward tees when we go. Having 100 yards or less to every par 4 and 9 iron or less to every par 3 makes for a pretty chill day of golf. Playing with my dad from the whites is amazingly chill. Par 4s are drive and 3/4 pitching wedge to green (at most). Makes paring the holes a lot easier. The par 5s easily reachable in two. Still gotta make the putts though 😆
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dangling pointer posted:Alpine lake looks nice! Take some pics and let me know how it is, it’s only 3 hours from me. I may just have to make that trip this summer. I've been meaning to get out there from Toledo for ages. Couple buddies of mine in Cleveland go once in a while and rave about it.
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Jul 19, 2021 00:36
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Return to lost golf ball chat. Hit my tee shot on 12 into the rough on 11. I could see the bounce, had a good line on the ball to a tree. Since I'm walking, it takes a bit. I see the players on 11 drive to the area, hit and move on. When I get to my area, I immediately find a ball. I hit ProV1x, number 2 with my mark on it. This is a Titleist Tour Soft or something, also number 2. Since I'm not recording the score for handicap, I dropped where I thought my ball was, played without a penalty. Thoughts?
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Jul 19, 2021 23:46
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yeah I personally would consider that sufficient rationalization to not take penalty strokes
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Jul 19, 2021 23:57
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Unless you’re playing in a tournament or playing for money or something, then do literally anything you want.
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Does anyone here play the ProV1 left dash? I was reading some MyGolfSpy ball reviews over the weekend while tired after a triathlon and they seem to really salivate over it.
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