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mandatory lesbian posted:I live in minneapolis, bithc I live in Chicago and I love non-bus public transit. But in America the options are dire such that someone requiring a car to live isn't unreasonable, and saying "lol just take the bus" isn't really feasible (by design).
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indigi posted:found a likely “I don’t ride the bus cause it’s filled with poors” guy Actually I've got a way hotter take. Busses are just an extension of american car-culture, but catering specifically to people that can't afford a car "poors" as you would say. They are inefficient by design, and exist so that domestic car companies can sell more cars after buying out their competition in the 30's (public transit) and intentionally running them into the ground. Now the bus systems can exist only through massive subsidies that go directly into the public-private partnership setup and sold off by those same corporations. This has the handy knock-on effect of disallowing any capital improvements into more efficient public transit systems like light-rail, commuter trains, or electric cable cars because well-meaning liberals like you say "well why don't you just take the bus" whenever someone points out the inherent problems of the existing system.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Actually I've got a way hotter take. Busses are just an extension of american car-culture, but catering specifically to people that can't afford a car "poors" as you would say. They are inefficient by design, and exist so that domestic car companies can sell more cars after buying out their competition in the 30's (public transit) and intentionally running them into the ground. Now the bus systems can exist only through massive subsidies that go directly into the public-private partnership setup and sold off by those same corporations. This has the handy knock-on effect of disallowing any capital improvements into more efficient public transit systems like light-rail, commuter trains, or electric cable cars because well-meaning liberals like you say "well why don't you just take the bus" whenever someone points out the inherent problems of the existing system. lol
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indigi posted:found a likely “I don’t ride the bus cause it’s filled with poors” guy For fun, I just checked on google maps how much longer bussing to my work would take compared to driving. Two extra hours, each way.
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There's no public transport where I'm at, so I guess that would add infinity travel time. If I had a job anymore. Also lol that even more businesses here are shutting down for good. America is truly the land of (access to the idea of) opportunity.
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mandatory lesbian posted:public transit thats worth a drat 
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Tunicate posted:For fun, I just checked on google maps how much longer bussing to my work would take compared to driving. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though. Surely there exists no correlation between how poo poo busses are and lack of support for better transit options.
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Tunicate posted:For fun, I just checked on google maps how much longer bussing to my work would take compared to driving. sorry you live or work in some barren wasteland. every major city has bus routes that are well planned and run and occasionally faster than rail. they also go places rail can’t or shouldn’t. I took public transit around loving Buffalo last time I visited, which I had to do because it’s such a podunk nowhere town they didn’t have Uber or Lyft yet. the main problem is that they stop running anywhere between 7-11pm which does render them useless for second and third shift workers, but that’s a profitability/policy issue not a design or implementation issue
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"major city," huh? nice goalposts you got there. be a shame if someone were to... move them
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Cup Runneth Over posted:"major city," huh? nice goalposts you got there. be a shame if someone were to... move them check the original post I took issue with which claims that two (2) cities in the US have public transportation
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why don’t you just move outside of the US, every country loves Americans so it’ll be easy to be accepted elsewhere right?
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I will marry any Scandinavian goon. I get: escape from America, slightly longer time until climate doom. You get: my takes that are too spicy for the forum, weed smoking lessons. PMs are open
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indigi posted:check the original post I took issue with which claims that two (2) cities in the US have public transportation bay area has pretty good public transit from what i hear. I can only speak to Philly, but ours...well it has its moments funny enough, LA, the 2nd largest city in America has such bad public transit that it's famous for everyone driving everywhere
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maybe they should just move, haha https://twitter.com/SuzyKhimm/status/1415351607026458631?s=20
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over/under on time time adopting those policies to an American grenfell tower incident?
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The Nastier Nate posted:funny enough, LA, the 2nd largest city in America has such bad public transit that it's famous for everyone driving everywhere this is straight up because nobody wants to take the bus and what changed my opinion on buses. the first two times I went to LA I didn’t have enough to rent a car and Uber/Lyft didn’t exist yet so I had to bus to get around. they came surprisingly frequently and there was great neighborhood coverage. it’d be legit impossible to build rail within walking distance of everywhere you’d like to go in LA cause it’s a sprawl hellscape but you can get anywhere with a bus and a transfer it took ~20% longer to get there than if you drove but you can get there pretty easily, idk if it’s fallen off in the last 10 years but it was a legit option to get around the city
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indigi posted:this is straight up because nobody wants to take the bus and what changed my opinion on buses. the first two times I went to LA I didn’t have enough to rent a car and Uber/Lyft didn’t exist yet so I had to bus to get around. they came surprisingly frequently and there was great neighborhood coverage. it’d be legit impossible to build rail within walking distance of everywhere you’d like to go in LA cause it’s a sprawl hellscape but you can get anywhere with a bus and a transfer you clearly don’t rely on public transit, or never leave the most gentrified areas with this pollyanna attitude. every major city in america is run by neoliberal austerity shitheads, and chronically underfunding transit is as common as ripping up the streets for the development barons who actually dictate urban politics.
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I never thought about it before but the movie Speed is basically anti-transit propaganda.
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numerrik posted:over/under on time time adopting those policies to an American grenfell tower incident?
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Centrist Committee posted:you clearly don’t rely on public transit, ok
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Buses are trains with only one or two cars and, much like in transport tycoon, should be used primarily for last mile connections
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Train chat is derailing the thread.
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indigi posted:sorry you live or work in some barren wasteland. every major city has bus routes that are well planned and run and occasionally faster than rail. cool my city is on the list of top 40 biggest cities in the US so are 'major' cities only what, top 20? top 10? top 2?
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Busses can be great but like anything else they require spending, planning, and infrastructure. A rapid transit corridor for busses does a much better job than a train does of responding to variable demand among decentralized end points, for example. If your busses are poo poo, it means that your community's decision makers are refusing to do the things necessary to make the busses not poo poo. 
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CommonShore posted:Busses can be great but like anything else they require spending, planning, and infrastructure. A rapid transit corridor for busses does a much better job than a train does of responding to variable demand among decentralized end points, for example. yah busses own
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Tunicate posted:cool my city is on the list of top 40 biggest cities in the US Well there's your problem. Buses rule.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Train chat is derailing the thread. train chat is the highest, purest form of leftism
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numerrik posted:over/under on time time adopting those policies to an American grenfell tower incident? didn't you guys already have that thing in Florida last week? close enough
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what the gently caress is wrong with you that you feel the need to post this on Twitter
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look, sometimes you have a real tough time, come to some really depressing revelations about yourself, and you want to confide in 9,000 of your closest friends about how your parents' money left you emotionally stunted
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Magnificent Adult Baby
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Cup Runneth Over posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you that you feel the need to post this on Twitter do I have a treat for you https://twitter.com/michaelaokla/status/1416118039884406784?s=21
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lmao this fuckin guy https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1415771889327243264
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