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I did the usual thing and ended up rereading large portions of the comic, and Loup outright says to Annie that Coyote had been stealing Ysengrin's memories on this page: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2017
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dragon enthusiast posted:I did the usual thing and ended up rereading large portions of the comic, and Loup outright says to Annie that Coyote had been stealing Ysengrin's memories on this page: We were already discussing that page. DontMockMySmock posted:Despite the word "stealing," the context makes it sound like Coyote was merely mind-reading - the emphasis is that Coyote knows what Ysengrin is thinking, not that memories are being deleted from Ysengrin's mind. I'd still say that even if Annie remembers this word-perfectly she's still woefully underinformed about the whole situation.
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Could just be both. When you steal a memory, it's gone, but when you steal a thought about a desire or feeling, it will come back again.
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Jul 13, 2021 03:55
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He did have to keep stealing them over again a lot, yeah.
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Jul 13, 2021 04:29
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Whether it makes perfect sense in the story or not, I think almost every reader wouldn't be opposed to giving Coyote a hug at this point. If nothing else, just to celebrate that Loup is about to die. If Coyote's last predictions are true.
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BobTheJanitor posted:Whether it makes perfect sense in the story or not, I think almost every reader wouldn't be opposed to giving Coyote a hug at this point. If nothing else, just to celebrate that Loup is about to die. If Coyote's last predictions are true.  Dude couldn't handle the power and basically cocked up everything from the get go. The main rules for surviving in Coyote's inner circle seem to be "Be interesting to Coyote" and "Don't irritate Coyote", and I think Ysengrin is on thin ice for both of those.
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Jul 13, 2021 06:24
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except on recollection I can’t think of many things that Coyote doesn’t find entertaining in some way. even ysengrin’s stodginess amuses him, independent of using the poor bastard as a plaything Tony is maybe the only thing in the whole comic that inspired outright antipathy from him
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Jul 13, 2021 07:22
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Court does the impossible bore Coyote to perma death and exile from the plot
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Jul 13, 2021 08:07
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Big "Annie's not ready for this conversation" vibes going on
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maswastaken posted:And Coyote's the only one that hasn't nearly personally killed her. Just indirectly. Ysengrin's attempt at killing her was very much a product of his meddling.
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Jul 14, 2021 11:51
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Annointed posted:Court does the impossible bore Coyote to perma death and exile from the plot The Court: "Excellent, Project Omega has entered the final stage"
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Jul 14, 2021 14:25
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Never trust Buddha.
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Kennel posted:Never trust Buddha. They made the critical error of not killing him when the encountered him along the road.
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Jul 15, 2021 02:08
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 https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1214  https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=792  https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=495 ... so, attempting to trick Annie into permanently freeing Coyote to incarnate as Loup? "He may never lie, but he also does not tell the truth" indeed We are shown earlier that Annie can catch forest fairies on their lies but a trickster god is another tier altogether perhaps. And that first scene is Renard's recall - he may not have ever disclosed what exactly went down with Annie Loup did also demand the return of one final thing: Renard's power to take bodies
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Oooh, very interesting page. Failed cousin?? Is there some obscure mythological reference I’m missing? Also drat it I wanted Coyote to be back for real (and of course an adult never misses an opportunity to chide Annie for obtuse and silly reasons) Fecha fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 08:29
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Fantastic Coyote face
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Fecha posted:Oooh, very interesting page. i assume it's a dig at them trying (and failing) to become gods
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Jul 16, 2021 09:20
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lmao its nothing more than a deity turf war
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Jul 16, 2021 09:20
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D'aww, the fat guy comes with flowers and stuff into the ether. Maybe he's not such a bad guy after all. It also strikes me as weird that he considers this ether talking to be disgusting. Why would he think that? Because it's not "science"?
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A big flaming stink posted:lmao its nothing more than a deity turf war Buddha actually failed to reach true enlightenment and now is out to take Godhood by force! And Science!
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Jul 16, 2021 10:08
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if you see the buddha in the ether, kill him
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runwiled posted:Buddha actually failed to reach true enlightenment and now is out to take Godhood by force! And Science! You joke, but I legit want it to be something loopy like this.
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Jul 16, 2021 11:36
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How many deities or otherwise mythological creatures have we seen in GKC so far? A minotaur, Chang'e, Brunhild, a triple goddess/three fates mashup...? I guess Aata is about to infodump
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Jul 16, 2021 11:48
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"Failed cousin" because Coyote once laughed at his furry suit and how poorly it was made.
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Jul 16, 2021 12:44
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Lt. Lizard posted:You joke, but I legit want it to be something loopy like this. I made the joke well aware it might actually be the case. Like that Isaac Newton reveal in Escaflowne.
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Lt. Lizard posted:You joke, but I legit want it to be something loupy like this.
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Jul 16, 2021 13:25
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Someone in Reddit pointed out that Aata could be connected to Ānanda?? Disciple and first cousin of Buddha, didn't reach enlightenment since he still had worldly attachments. Or he could just be a buddha-esque bald guy that tried to become a god. Who knows.
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Fecha posted:Someone in Reddit pointed out that Aata could be connected to Ānanda?? Disciple and first cousin of Buddha, didn't reach enlightenment since he still had worldly attachments. ...I just realised something about the Ancillary Justice/Sword/Mercy books
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Jul 16, 2021 16:05
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Isn't fat/squat Buddha usually a representation of the Chinese monk Budai/an East Asian depiction of the Maitreya Buddha and not the Gautama Buddha (ie the Indian princeling turned sage). Very rough on my Buddhism so apologies if I hosed up.
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oh so coyote is still dead and this is just another memory cool
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Rotten Red Rod posted:oh so coyote is still dead and this is just another memory I didn't think it was very likely to be otherwise, it started out exactly the same as last time until they tried to drag him away.
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Regy Rusty posted:I didn't think it was very likely to be otherwise, it started out exactly the same as last time until they tried to drag him away. Yeah I didn't expect it either but it doesn't mean I'm still not disappointed. But then that's been par for the course since the Annies merged. Well, I hope the status quo changes as a result of this in SOME surprising way. I'm about done with Loup.
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This is not the direction I expected this to go, but I'm certainly intrigued.
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Regy Rusty posted:I didn't think it was very likely to be otherwise, it started out exactly the same as last time until they tried to drag him away. Same, especially since "a plan" wasn't exactly revealed to Loup yet (though I thought maybe the plan was revealed very quickly and then Loup subsequently died lol). Referring to this page for reference: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2228
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Uh... the comment at the bottom is "I am very much dead." Has Coyote been delivering the comments all along?
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honestly if you let a little thing like  death bother you, you need to rethink your path to apotheosis
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Jul 17, 2021 19:53
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Death is more of an inconvenience than anything. At least after the novelty wears off.
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Jul 17, 2021 20:40
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Who here hasn't spent a year dead for tax reasons???
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Coyote... is.... A GHOOOOOOST What would 'death' even mean to an entity like Coyote? Do they get escorted into the ether for discorporation to "keep the world turning"? And does this relate to Loup's promise to free Annie from her obligation to the psychopomps? Interested to find out.
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Coyote never died he was just sent to a nice farm
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