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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

kiimo posted:

To be fair the Giants lack of a fast paste offense really left fans chomping at the bit

They committed too many fowls to expect to win that agme.

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Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
Ba weep gra na weep ninny bong

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


What did you just call my wife?!

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Philippe posted:

Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!

:hmmyes:

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Dillbag posted:

Ba weep gra na weep ninny bong

My nam is Kid
Kid
Rock

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Grendels Dad posted:

My nam is Kid
Kid
Rock

lmao

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

The Bloop posted:

Yakka foob mog grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork chumble spuzz

The alien dialogue in Spaceman Spiff strips cracked me right up as a kid.

Also, "YEAH? Well, YOU go like THIS: 'gakka-wakka-wakka'!"

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
Teddy Roosevelt wanted to simplify the English language and got roundly mocked for it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/theodore-roosevelt-spelling-controversy

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Then why do you still spell colour wrong?

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

It's the English who spell it wrong because they spell it like the French. You aren't the French, are you?

boofhead
Feb 18, 2021

the americans are the french of the americas. yes i am willing to die on this hill, why do you ask

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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my favorite is aluminum/aluminium because both are corrections to Davy's original "alumium"

Depends which "correction" you think is better


e: do you follow the pattern of "platinum" or the pattern of "rubidium"

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

kiimo posted:

It's the English who spell it wrong because they spell it like the French. You aren't the French, are you?

The French spell it couleur.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

low key sex master posted:

Teddy Roosevelt wanted to simplify the English language and got roundly mocked for it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/theodore-roosevelt-spelling-controversy

They also went with the Simple English on propaganda efforts against the commies in South America, and there is even a large Wikipedia written in it so the effort or idea was not a complete waste of time.

Also, in here the stuff the Worcestershire, and all the other shires are not exactly a high merit. Maybe drop the silent letters at some point? I am also looking at you, French language.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Der Kyhe posted:

They also went with the Simple English on propaganda efforts against the commies in South America, and there is even a large Wikipedia written in it so the effort or idea was not a complete waste of time.

Also, in here the stuff the Worcestershire, and all the other shires are not exactly a high merit. Maybe drop the silent letters at some point? I am also looking at you, French language.

Nough.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007


Bhuet hwhaiey noughght?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



low key sex master posted:

Teddy Roosevelt wanted to simplify the English language and got roundly mocked for it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/theodore-roosevelt-spelling-controversy

lol at the ghost of Chaucer in the cartoon as if English was still spelled as he did.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

bike tory posted:

Bhuet hwhaiey noughght?

U wot m8?

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Roosevelt wasn’t the only American trying to simplify or standardize American English spelling.

There was this effort and I think Benjamin Franklin made an attempt, too (to no one’s surprise) in an effort to make literacy easier to accomplish and overcome difference in dialects and assist in 2nd language acquisition for immigrants.

They all failed.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Gerard Nolst Trenité posted:


Dearest creature in creation
Studying English pronunciation,
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse and worse.

I will keep you, Susy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy;
Tear in eye, your dress you'll tear;
Queer, fair seer, hear my prayer.

Pray, console your loving poet,
Make my coat look new, dear, sew it!
Just compare heart, hear and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word.

Sword and sward, retain and Britain
(Mind the latter how it's written).
Made has not the sound of bade,
Say-said, pay-paid, laid but plaid.

Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as vague and ague,
But be careful how you speak,
Say: gush, bush, steak, streak, break, bleak ,

Previous, precious, fuchsia, via
Recipe, pipe, studding-sail, choir;
Woven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, shoe, poem, toe.

Say, expecting fraud and trickery:
Daughter, laughter and Terpsichore,
Branch, ranch, measles, topsails, aisles,
Missiles, similes, reviles.

Wholly, holly, signal, signing,
Same, examining, but mining,
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far.

From "desire": desirable-admirable from "admire",
Lumber, plumber, bier, but brier,
Topsham, brougham, renown, but known,
Knowledge, done, lone, gone, none, tone,

One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel.
Gertrude, German, wind and wind,
Beau, kind, kindred, queue, mankind,

Tortoise, turquoise, chamois-leather,
Reading, Reading, heathen, heather.
This phonetic labyrinth
Gives moss, gross, brook, brooch, ninth, plinth.

Have you ever yet endeavoured
To pronounce revered and severed,
Demon, lemon, ghoul, foul, soul,
Peter, petrol and patrol?

Billet does not end like ballet;
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.

Banquet is not nearly parquet,
Which exactly rhymes with khaki.
Discount, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward,

Ricocheted and crocheting, croquet?
Right! Your pronunciation's OK.
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Is your r correct in higher?
Keats asserts it rhymes Thalia.
Hugh, but hug, and hood, but hoot,
Buoyant, minute, but minute.

Say abscission with precision,
Now: position and transition;
Would it tally with my rhyme
If I mentioned paradigm?

Twopence, threepence, tease are easy,
But cease, crease, grease and greasy?
Cornice, nice, valise, revise,
Rabies, but lullabies.

Of such puzzling words as nauseous,
Rhyming well with cautious, tortious,
You'll envelop lists, I hope,
In a linen envelope.

Would you like some more? You'll have it!
Affidavit, David, davit.
To abjure, to perjure. Sheik
Does not sound like Czech but ache.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, loch, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed but vowed.

Mark the difference, moreover,
Between mover, plover, Dover.
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice,

Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, penal, and canal,
Wait, surmise, plait, promise, pal,

Suit, suite, ruin. Circuit, conduit
Rhyme with "shirk it" and "beyond it",
But it is not hard to tell
Why it's pall, mall, but Pall Mall.

Muscle, muscular, gaol, iron,
Timber, climber, bullion, lion,
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor,

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
Has the a of drachm and hammer.
Pussy, hussy and possess,
Desert, but desert, address.

Golf, wolf, countenance, lieutenants
Hoist in lieu of flags left pennants.
Courier, courtier, tomb, bomb, comb,
Cow, but Cowper, some and home.

"Solder, soldier! Blood is thicker",
Quoth he, "than liqueur or liquor",
Making, it is sad but true,
In bravado, much ado.

Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Pilot, pivot, gaunt, but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand and grant.

Arsenic, specific, scenic,
Relic, rhetoric, hygienic.
Gooseberry, goose, and close, but close,
Paradise, rise, rose, and dose.

Say inveigh, neigh, but inveigle,
Make the latter rhyme with eagle.
Mind! Meandering but mean,
Valentine and magazine.

And I bet you, dear, a penny,
You say mani-(fold) like many,
Which is wrong. Say rapier, pier,
Tier (one who ties), but tier.

Arch, archangel; pray, does erring
Rhyme with herring or with stirring?
Prison, bison, treasure trove,
Treason, hover, cover, cove,

Perseverance, severance. Ribald
Rhymes (but piebald doesn't) with nibbled.
Phaeton, paean, gnat, ghat, gnaw,
Lien, psychic, shone, bone, pshaw.

Don't be down, my own, but rough it,
And distinguish buffet, buffet;
Brood, stood, roof, rook, school, wool, boon,
Worcester, Boleyn, to impugn.

Say in sounds correct and sterling
Hearse, hear, hearken, year and yearling.
Evil, devil, mezzotint,
Mind the z! (A gentle hint.)

Now you need not pay attention
To such sounds as I don't mention,
Sounds like pores, pause, pours and paws,
Rhyming with the pronoun yours;

Nor are proper names included,
Though I often heard, as you did,
Funny rhymes to unicorn,
Yes, you know them, Vaughan and Strachan.

No, my maiden, coy and comely,
I don't want to speak of Cholmondeley.
No. Yet Froude compared with proud
Is no better than McLeod.

But mind trivial and vial,
Tripod, menial, denial,
Troll and trolley, realm and ream,
Schedule, mischief, schism, and scheme.

Argil, gill, Argyll, gill. Surely
May be made to rhyme with Raleigh,
But you're not supposed to say
Piquet rhymes with sobriquet.

Had this invalid invalid
Worthless documents? How pallid,
How uncouth he, couchant, looked,
When for Portsmouth I had booked!

Zeus, Thebes, Thales, Aphrodite,
Paramour, enamoured, flighty,
Episodes, antipodes,
Acquiesce, and obsequies.

Please don't monkey with the geyser,
Don't peel 'taters with my razor,
Rather say in accents pure:
Nature, stature and mature.

Pious, impious, limb, climb, glumly,
Worsted, worsted, crumbly, dumbly,
Conquer, conquest, vase, phase, fan,
Wan, sedan and artisan.

The th will surely trouble you
More than r, ch or w.
Say then these phonetic gems:
Thomas, thyme, Theresa, Thames.

Thompson, Chatham, Waltham, Streatham,
There are more but I forget 'em-
Wait! I've got it: Anthony,
Lighten your anxiety.

The archaic word albeit
Does not rhyme with eight-you see it;
With and forthwith, one has voice,
One has not, you make your choice.

Shoes, goes, does *. Now first say: finger;
Then say: singer, ginger, linger.
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, age,

Hero, heron, query, very,
Parry, tarry fury, bury,
Dost, lost, post, and doth, cloth, loth,
Job, Job, blossom, bosom, oath.

Faugh, oppugnant, keen oppugners,
Bowing, bowing, banjo-tuners
Holm you know, but noes, canoes,
Puisne, truism, use, to use?

Though the difference seems little,
We say actual, but victual,
Seat, sweat, chaste, caste, Leigh, eight, height,
Put, nut, granite, and unite.

Reefer does not rhyme with deafer,
Feoffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Dull, bull, Geoffrey, George, ate, late,
Hint, pint, senate, but sedate.

Gaelic, Arabic, pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific;
Tour, but our, dour, succour, four,
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.

Say manoeuvre, yacht and vomit,
Next omit, which differs from it
Bona fide, alibi
Gyrate, dowry and awry.

Sea, idea, guinea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean,
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion with battalion,
Rally with ally; yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, key, quay!

Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, receiver.
Never guess-it is not safe,
We say calves, valves, half, but Ralf.

Starry, granary, canary,
Crevice, but device, and eyrie,
Face, but preface, then grimace,
Phlegm, phlegmatic, rear end, glass, bass.

Bass, large, target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, oust, joust, and scour, but scourging;
Ear, but earn; and ere and tear
Do not rhyme with here but heir.

Mind the o of off and often
Which may be pronounced as orphan,
With the sound of saw and sauce;
Also soft, lost, cloth and cross.

Pudding, puddle, putting. Putting?
Yes: at golf it rhymes with shutting.
Respite, spite, consent, resent.
Liable, but Parliament.

Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew, Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, clerk and jerk,
Asp, grasp, wasp, demesne, cork, work.

A of valour, vapid vapour,
S of news (compare newspaper),
G of gibbet, gibbon, gist,
I of antichrist and grist,

Differ like diverse and divers,
Rivers, strivers, shivers, fivers.
Once, but nonce, toll, doll, but roll,
Polish, Polish, poll and poll.

Pronunciation-think of Psyche!-
Is a paling, stout and spiky.
Won't it make you lose your wits
Writing groats and saying "grits"?

It's a dark abyss or tunnel
Strewn with stones like rowlock, gunwale,
Islington, and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Don't you think so, reader, rather,
Saying lather, bather, father?
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, bough, cough, hough, sough, tough??

Hiccough has the sound of sup...
My advice is: GIVE IT UP!

Yoshi Wins
Jul 14, 2013

If it was going to happen, it had to happen earlier. Like around the time the King James Bible was being published. It's just way too late now. But as a former ESL teacher, gently caress English spelling.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Yoshi Wins posted:

But as a former ESL teacher,

This is just hour after hour of "I'm sorry :negative:" right

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
In my experience it is more: "Its broken anyways, don't worry too much about it."

Yoshi Wins
Jul 14, 2013

Data Graham posted:

This is just hour after hour of "I'm sorry :negative:" right

Most of my students were Koreans, who expect studying to be a painful process of rote memorization, but I still found it regrettable that they had to spend so much time and energy on something that is trivially easy in most (all??) other languages with a phonetic alphabet. What the gently caress kind of language has an alphabet that is based on sounds, and yet you can't tell how to spell something based on how it sounds?

I don't have any other major issues with English. But this one thing is just such a huge and dumb problem.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Dolton Edwards, "Meihem in ce Klasrum", 1946

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Nah, English is an awesome melting pot of a language, and doesn't assign gender to inanimate objects.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Other than ships.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

ultrafilter posted:

That's a very popular stereotype, but there's really nothing to it. Very few mathematicians are anything more than eccentric.
Mailbombs Ted was an outlier who shouldn't have been counted.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Lol, his name is Dolton.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Knormal posted:

Mailbombs Ted was an outlier who shouldn't have been counted.

Please do not speak ill of the righteous one.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

Paladinus posted:

The French spell it couleur.

The Russians used a crayon.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


I knows you go cray on my rear end!

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Yoshi Wins posted:

What the gently caress kind of language has an alphabet that is based on sounds, and yet you can't tell how to spell something based on how it sounds?

Japanese (Kanji)

Languages that have gender mean you're going to be doing a ton of rote memorisation. Languages with conjugation but a shitload of irregular verbs means you're going to be doing a ton of rote memorisation. There's nothing unique about English that way.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Yoshi Wins posted:

Most of my students were Koreans, who expect studying to be a painful process of rote memorization, but I still found it regrettable that they had to spend so much time and energy on something that is trivially easy in most (all??) other languages with a phonetic alphabet. What the gently caress kind of language has an alphabet that is based on sounds, and yet you can't tell how to spell something based on how it sounds?

I don't have any other major issues with English. But this one thing is just such a huge and dumb problem.

What I wonder about is what kind of :psyduck: must be going through people's heads when they try to figure out colloquial constructs like the distinction between "few" and "a few".

Like I can barely even think how to explain it clearly, let alone expect anyone to get it off the bat (and few do)

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Johnny Aztec posted:

Nah, English is an awesome melting pot of a language, and doesn't assign gender to inanimate objects.

Vehicles, buildings, weapons, and some tools, plus many objects that has a personal attachment to you, beg to differ.

Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Data Graham posted:

What I wonder about is what kind of :psyduck: must be going through people's heads when they try to figure out colloquial constructs like the distinction between "few" and "a few".

Like I can barely even think how to explain it clearly, let alone expect anyone to get it off the bat (and few do)

But a few do do

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

The Bloop posted:

Yakka foob mog grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork chumble spuzz

Slippin rippin dang fang rotten zarg barg a ding dong

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Lombaki creo plomo plio zona ah-ah

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Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

BOOTY-ADE posted:

Slippin rippin dang fang rotten zarg barg a ding dong

THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED THE COSBY

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