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As a random note, I always find shortened anime/VN names hilarious. 素敵な (sutekina) is literally just something like "lovely."
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Acerbatus posted:Having finished Sutekina I am left with a few impressions: i enjoyed reading because i was curious about the game and all i heard was mixed things about it either not being good at handling themes of abuse or just being review bombed by chinese users for having it so i couldn't really get a clear picture of any of it
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The Colonel posted:i enjoyed reading because i was curious about the game and all i heard was mixed things about it either not being good at handling themes of abuse or just being review bombed by chinese users for having it so i couldn't really get a clear picture of any of it Probably the most interesting thing it does is comment on the player/MC relationship in this kind of game by basically having "you" play as one of the MC's twitter friends and guide her into doing what you want to see her do, but even that isn't exactly new territory in VNs at this point. Acerbatus posted:It raises the idea it's not really her fault that she's so hosed up. But then it also fetishizes it with the most bizarrely abrupt and short sex scenes since Ride to Hell. There's an 18+ patch that makes those scenes longer but uh if you thought they were fetishistic in the regular version then they get a lot worse on that front. It's a pretty uncomfortable tonal shift in a game that's otherwise actually pretty decent about understanding abusive relationship dynamics and presenting them in a way that doesn't (usually) feel overly exploitative.
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Thuryl posted:Probably the most interesting thing it does is comment on the player/MC relationship in this kind of game by basically having "you" play as one of the MC's twitter friends and guide her into doing what you want to see her do, but even that isn't exactly new territory in VNs at this point. hell that kind of thing was an optional framing device in the drat strawberry panic game. and it's something i tend to have mixed feelings on cause it can be used in conceptually interesting ways but as like, a criticism or w/e it feels extremely weird to me cause like man i don't view it as a parasocial thing or w/e i just wanna see characters interact and grow in cool ways.
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Thuryl posted:There's an 18+ patch that makes those scenes longer but uh if you thought they were fetishistic in the regular version then they get a lot worse on that front. It's a pretty uncomfortable tonal shift in a game that's otherwise actually pretty decent about understanding abusive relationship dynamics and presenting them in a way that doesn't (usually) feel overly exploitative. Yeah I heard, didn't think I'd bother since it was so fuckin bizarre. If it was just supposed to be a fetish thing from the start that'd be one thing, but it really doesn't seem like that was the intent. Then again I have no idea what the intent was at this point. Thuryl posted:Probably the most interesting thing it does is comment on the player/MC relationship in this kind of game by basically having "you" play as one of the MC's twitter friends and guide her into doing what you want to see her do, but even that isn't exactly new territory in VNs at this point. I sort of expected it to go somewhere, and then it... Didn't? I haven't seen anything like that in a VN myself though so I got really confused by how it wanted me to pick dialogue for someone else. The Colonel posted:i enjoyed reading because i was curious about the game and all i heard was mixed things about it either not being good at handling themes of abuse or just being review bombed by chinese users for having it so i couldn't really get a clear picture of any of it Oh, okay.  It is kinda weird on the mental health angle because it immediately shows the MC as faking cutting herself on twitter for attention, but then whips around and as mentioned goes on to have a more nuanced view on mental illness than most pieces of media and also starts to explore the unhealthy relationship dynamic; The two of them start to become codependent and the MC makes the other girl delete all her contacts except her, that sort of thing. But then it goes for the fetishy yandere thing before abruptly stopping because the writer got shot or had some other abrupt stop that made him lose interest. I know I shouldn't be upset by some random eroge not being great but... It just sucks to see when it's the sort of thing I really like and there isn't a lot of. Guess I'll get started on muv-luv or heart of the woods since I got those on steam sale too.
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Oh, another yuri VN worth checking out is A Summer's End. It has absolutely gorgeous art and solid writing that creates a strong sense of the place and time it's set in (Hong Kong in 1986, right before it was handed back to China).
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Jul 11, 2021 01:40
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I finished DR V3 but there's not much I can really say I feel. I enjoyed the ending and and bits and pieces of the last few cases but there's too much VN to get to those points that I did not care for all that much. It turns out that if you don't really like the first two VNs of a franchise it's probable you're not going to be over the moon for its third either.
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Jul 13, 2021 03:18
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Acerbatus posted:Morbid curiosity lead me to try Sutekina kanojo no tsukurikata. lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery lady in mystery
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Jul 14, 2021 06:07
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Man there's this big VN hole on my PC now that I'm done with DR V3... If only there was another VN about mysteries that I recently got on a Steam sale that could fill it...
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Jul 14, 2021 13:28
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Nate RFB posted:Man there's this big VN hole on my PC now that I'm done with DR V3... If only there was another VN about mysteries that I recently got on a Steam sale that could fill it... Yeah too bad there is nothing that fits the bill. I think Steam hasn't had any good new mysteries in over 2 months. And its too bad there aren't any yuri mysteries out there. Or Korean ones.
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Jul 14, 2021 14:21
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murder rage rising
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Jul 14, 2021 18:35
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Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I saw the Steam Deck was that I can finally finish Umineko because I'll be able to play it whenever?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I saw the Steam Deck was that I can finally finish Umineko because I'll be able to play it whenever? yes, just get a remote desktop app and do that with your phone or tablet or something, it's how I finished muv luv
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Jul 17, 2021 18:38
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I saw the Steam Deck was that I can finally finish Umineko because I'll be able to play it whenever? I can't possibly see how that could be a bad thing
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Jul 17, 2021 19:30
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:yes, just get a remote desktop app and do that with your phone or tablet or something, it's how I finished muv luv ...I feel like a loving idiot  . Yeah, I never use steam link, but that would be a pretty good use!
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Jul 17, 2021 23:09
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Sorry, double post, but questions for Umineko people: after the Chapter 2 Tea Room, how the hell is Beatrice redeemable in anyway? I see a lot of people talk about how Beatrice is the best and such a great character, and I'm gonna say that, generally speaking, I don't think there's a way to redeem "person who tried to feed a mother their own daughter".
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Jul 18, 2021 20:49
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Read the rest of the game
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Jul 18, 2021 20:53
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Fair enough, just needed that reassurance honestly. I was going to proceed regardless, but wanted to at least know that was addressed significantly.
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You still have like another 120 hours to learn all about the varying layers of like 90% of the cast. I can't guarantee you'll necessarily change your tune about that character, but there's still a lot to see and contextualize
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Sorry, double post, but questions for Umineko people: after the Chapter 2 Tea Room, how the hell is Beatrice redeemable in anyway? I see a lot of people talk about how Beatrice is the best and such a great character, and I'm gonna say that, generally speaking, I don't think there's a way to redeem "person who tried to feed a mother their own daughter". Just going to file in here that in the Studio Deen anime adaptiation they animated this scene.  Also keep going. EDIT: Right I just finished 428 Shibuya Scramble and how I have never heard of this before. I guess it's another casualty of the PSP, but how did it never come up when people were hyping 999 back in the day. Has an absolute banger of a theme too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKQIRaAsFMw MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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Jul 18, 2021 21:54
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I never thought about it but I wonder if ryukushi played Phantasmagoria. Although I guess it could just be a titis adronicus thing
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MiddleOne posted:EDIT: Right I just finished 428 Shibuya Scramble and how I have never heard of this before. I guess it's another casualty of the PSP, but how did it never come up when people were hyping 999 back in the day. it was Japan-only until it got localized in 2018 is how game fuckin rules though yeah
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dmboogie posted:it was Japan-only until it got localized in 2018 is how Man where are fan-patches when you need them.  It is fantastic. The premise is you time-skip between a group of five extreme weirdos and try to keep them alive and well throughout a kidnapping turned terrorist plot. Make the wrong decisions and things go all fate/stay night on you (there are so many bad ends, other Chunsoft games aren't even close).  It is so creative with its use of photo and video too. Real gem. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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Jul 18, 2021 22:07
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interesting thing to know about 428 is that it's a bit of a spiritual successor to an older chunsoft sound novel on the saturn called machi, even has some small references back to it hope chunsoft will try rereleasing some of their way older stuff in english some day
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Nate RFB posted:> : ( No idea if it helps given the context, but the first option has a character meaning kill, the second one "pity," and the last one love
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It would have, though I had gotten an answer elsewhere before having to trial & error it anyway. But still, c'mon!
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Jul 19, 2021 02:23
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Nate RFB posted:> : ( lol
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Jul 19, 2021 03:23
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is that lady in mystery? i do not remember that during my play through, mysterious
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It is and it has been, shall we say, a somewhat buggy experience at times.
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Nate RFB posted:It is and it has been, shall we say, a somewhat buggy experience at times. oh yeah you are, getting way worse stuff then i ever got??? the only things untranslated i ever saw were like some titles on the glossary entries. i don't get how or why it would be different for you, weird. e: i dunno maybe i am just forgetting this Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 18:21
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I just got to the [chapter 3 Umineko spoiler] coronation of Eva as the new Beatrice and it's incredible how Umineko has trained me such that I find it terrifying and don't know why.
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MiddleOne posted:Man where are fan-patches when you need them. Found it really cool that in this game and steins;gate they had clickable words in the text box that'd take you to a codex that'd explaini some unique cultural thing/concept. Very useful for people new to V/N's.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1644150/OshiRabu_Waifus_Over_Husbandos_Loveordie/ over/under if this sequel will also heavily use "thots" in translation
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Snooze Cruise posted:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1644150/OshiRabu_Waifus_Over_Husbandos_Loveordie/ None because that's not what over under is!!! Is the thots thing a criticism of the first ones translation in general or more just a joke?
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Acerbatus posted:None because that's not what over under is!!! criticism, thots came up a lot. i mean waifu is also in the title so just bad choices all around. teeny bopper was used a few times but that doesn't really bother me like thots lol.
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Snooze Cruise posted:criticism, thots came up a lot. i mean waifu is also in the title so just bad choices all around. teeny bopper was used a few times but that doesn't really bother me like thots lol. The store blurb describes the art (which is pretty drat good) as yurilicious I wonder who was in charge of marketing
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yeah the tl reads fine overall but it goes kinda far with some, choices, in places it's a shame cause curse of kudan is from the same company's all-ages vn branch and its tl is pretty solid. still dunno why that one's not even on steam
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The Colonel posted:yeah the tl reads fine overall but it goes kinda far with some, choices, in places There's some nudity in one of Curse of Kudan's epilogue scenes. I could see Steam having problems with it; it's not something that could easily be cut out since it's right there in an important ending CG, and adding an "adult only" tag to the game defeats a lot of the purpose of being on Steam in terms of discoverability.
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