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St_Ides
May 19, 2008

ImplicitAssembler posted:

How much does a glider weigh?

The glider the balloon is lifting is an L-13 Blanik. 644lb empty.

Winch launches are a lot of fun in gliders. It’s such a quiet way to launch. Auto tow is cool too, I’d love to try it sometime.

But the helicopter and balloon tows are just for bragging rights. That helicopter one just seems so dangerous, with the rope in the area of the tail rotor. Also the cost per launch would be stupidly high.

The balloon one is pointless too. If the air is calm enough for a balloon to fly there’s the going to be any lift for the glider to use, thermal, ridge or otherwise.

I didn’t have the sound on for the video but I hope the guy mentions it.

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Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!


Just what you want to see as you board the 737.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




737 Max?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Delta doesn’t have maxes. You can look up the N number or tail number.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent
I’m kind of surprised that’s legal for Part 121.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

That’s why I’m very curious to see what it’s been up to. Can a plane be marked experimental for some purpose (idk something with proving ETOPS?) and still be non experimental for other purposes?

I always thought the instant an airframe becomes “experimental” it’s not something you can use for normal operations anymore but I’m sure there are nuances that matter for big jets and not general aviation.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

hobbesmaster posted:

I always thought the instant an airframe becomes “experimental” it’s not something you can use for normal operations anymore

Yea I’m with you, I thought they were not allowed for hire under 91.319(a)(2) but idk the laws well.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Ola posted:

He squawked for a high jacking! I armchaired a bit about "aviate, navigate, communicate" while watching, but since he was so far from the airfield it can probably be a lifesaver to get that squawk in so they know where to come looking for you. He nailed it.

Fella picked a good place to run out of gas. If he was a touch further South or East he would have been all up in urban sprawl or suburbs. Thankfully Concord has a good amount of farmland within fairly close to the airport itself. There’s also a really fun quarry just across the street to the north that makes things weird on occasion.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
Reddit says it's a test of a new in-flight wifi system.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

ImplicitAssembler posted:

How much does a glider weigh?

I'd say between 250 and 800kg. 250-350kg for a single seater without water ballast, 500-525kg max weight with water. Two seaters usually 400-600kg without water, upto 700-800kg with water for modern high performance ones. Lightest modern glider I believe is SparrowHawk with 70kg empty weight.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
This dude's like the quintessential anti-Jerry and his videos rule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwinnRsBQR4

In other news: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/paris-charles-de-gaulle-plane-incident-scli-intl/index.html

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jul 21, 2021

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Cool, didn't know about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfTkgT_XvCc

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
https://twitter.com/drscottphd/status/1417841564269916168?s=21

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I was really hoping for more impressive tip vortices :saddowns:

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Yeah, I was hoping for something really fuckin cool to happen as it burst through the smoke.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

I’m sure something really cool was happening in the engines.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I would think Brazilian jets would be used to flying through gigantic smoke plumes

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
It's *probably* fine but you would think maybe that runway would be closed?

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Go here for cool vortices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKFdwnCgXM

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.

Sagebrush posted:

I was really hoping for more impressive tip vortices :saddowns:

Pesky winglets ruining our good times.

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

Cojawfee posted:

Yeah, I was hoping for something really fuckin cool to happen as it burst through the smoke.

You heard the kid say how cool it was, what more can you ask for? (Vortices)

Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

hobbesmaster posted:

I’m sure something really cool was happening in the engines.

I'll bet it smelled wonderful.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-agencies-report-rising-number-unruly-airline-passengers-2021-07-20/

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor

Put every single one of those people on the terrorist watch list and no fly list.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

wargames posted:

Put every single one of those people on the terrorist watch list and no fly list.
Putting them on a company-side shared no fly list might make sense, but there isn’t any particular reason to think they are likely to be terrorists. Putting them on the terrorist watch list or federal no fly list out of spite would just waste a bunch of resources for no real point.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

standard.deviant posted:

Putting them on a company-side shared no fly list might make sense, but there isn’t any particular reason to think they are likely to be terrorists.

I've seen several employees ask our management about whether our "banned for pandemic related idiocy" list is shared with other airlines, and the official response is that we can't share that list because of anti-trust concerns.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

azflyboy posted:

I've seen several employees ask our management about whether our "banned for pandemic related idiocy" list is shared with other airlines, and the official response is that we can't share that list because of anti-trust concerns.

That kinda makes sense, you should probably be reporting it to the feds in some way or something though?

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


azflyboy posted:

I've seen several employees ask our management about whether our "banned for pandemic related idiocy" list is shared with other airlines, and the official response is that we can't share that list because of anti-trust concerns.

IN that case, have it "accidentally" shared publicly and just let the other companies have similar "leaks" and everyone get on the same page. This is global capitalism, folks, corporations can do whatever they want to screw the public with no fear of interference from the slow and ineffectual government!

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

hobbesmaster posted:

That kinda makes sense, you should probably be reporting it to the feds in some way or something though?
I assume they are, the linked article a few pages up says the number came from the FAA and discussed fines.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


There should probably be a "non-terrorist" federal no fly list.

You can't just pull over a plane and it's a very contained space with a lot of people in it that can be hurt. Anti-social behavior shouldn't be tolerated in that space. I think if you are arrested due to your actions while on a flight, you should end up on the no fly list for a minimum period of time.

Same thing if you bring a gun through the security checkpoint. Automatic, on the spot, revocation of flying privileges and I'm not even sure if there should be an expiration date on that one or an appeals process. Lifetime ban seems suitable there. If you can't keep track of your gun to the point where you try to take it through the most restrictive civilian security, you don't get to fly ever again.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

How bad is smoke for aircraft engines?

I assume it’s nowhere near as bad as volcanic ash (which might as well have been specifically designed to gently caress up engines), and if smoke was a serious hazard I would think that would then rule out using aircraft as water bombers for firefighting.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
I'm not sure on smoke in jet engines but there are other concerns too.

What other materials is in that smoke? Debris, chemicals, ash, etc?

What if a fuel tank exploded right as the plane was passing over?

The plane was pretty low. We're they at minimums? Could they see the runway before passing through?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

standard.deviant posted:

Putting them on a company-side shared no fly list might make sense, but there isn’t any particular reason to think they are likely to be terrorists. Putting them on the terrorist watch list or federal no fly list out of spite would just waste a bunch of resources for no real point.

They are demonstrably low-grade terrorists, OP.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Luneshot posted:

How bad is smoke for aircraft engines?

I assume it’s nowhere near as bad as volcanic ash (which might as well have been specifically designed to gently caress up engines), and if smoke was a serious hazard I would think that would then rule out using aircraft as water bombers for firefighting.

Water bombing is extremely rough on aircraft though.

brains
May 12, 2004

Luneshot posted:

How bad is smoke for aircraft engines?

I assume it’s nowhere near as bad as volcanic ash (which might as well have been specifically designed to gently caress up engines), and if smoke was a serious hazard I would think that would then rule out using aircraft as water bombers for firefighting.

smoke inhalation doesn't effect modern turbines much, it's only really particulate-dense stuff like volcanic ash that adds up quick. smoke can get into the cabin air circulation, though.

the bigger issues are the potential for dramatically higher ambient air temps which can lead to unexpected changes in density and result in lower engine power, along with high potential for updrafts and turbulent air over active fires.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

Platystemon posted:

They are demonstrably low-grade terrorists, OP.
Sure, someone got drunk and punched a flight attendant. Let’s put them on a list so if they try to fly from Canada to Mexico the plane gets diverted away from US airspace—that seems reasonable.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

standard.deviant posted:

Sure, someone got drunk and punched a flight attendant. Let’s put them on a list so if they try to fly from Canada to Mexico the plane gets diverted away from US airspace—that seems reasonable.

No, the plane just gets escorted by an f16 to the nearest air force base and the terry is taken away.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

standard.deviant posted:

Sure, someone got drunk and punched a flight attendant. Let’s put them on a list so if they try to fly from Canada to Mexico the plane gets diverted away from US airspace—that seems reasonable.

E: I'm dumb

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

Cojawfee posted:

No, the plane just gets escorted by an f16 to the nearest air force base and the terry is taken away.
Yeah that’s definitely less disruptive to their fellow passengers than just letting them overfly US airspace with an rear end in a top hat on board.

There is definitely a need for a list to ban people from flying for bad behavior without expanding terrorist-related stuff.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The No Fly List is bad and ought not to exist in its present form.

So long as it does exist, these people are more deserving of being on it than nine of ten names presently entered there.

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