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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Because Nolan sucks. Yeah as I get older the weaknesses of Nolan as a filmmaker become more obvious.
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Schumacher gotham - Burton gotham - begins gotham - adam west gotham - tdk and tdkr nolan gotham - titans gotham
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Jul 21, 2021 14:07
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Schumacher Gotham has the most insane set design I’ve ever seen.
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Jul 21, 2021 14:09
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Nothing can match BTAS Gotham. Though that's kinda cheating.
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Jul 21, 2021 14:23
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In Dark Knight Rises it was so obviously the financial district of Manhattan at times that it was actively distracting.
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Jul 21, 2021 14:55
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Ugly In The Morning posted:In Dark Knight Rises it was so obviously the financial district of Manhattan at times that it was actively distracting. Similarly watching The Dark Knight after living in Chicago for six years really takes you out of it. Especially because the street signs are unchanged.
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Jul 21, 2021 14:56
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Henchman of Santa posted:Similarly watching The Dark Knight after living in Chicago for six years really takes you out of it. Especially because the street signs are unchanged. So much of DKR was filmed right next to where I worked that I would see signs for like, my favorite lunch place in the background and whatnot. It was really distracting.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:00
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I haven't been to Chicago in years and it was still weird. But I work in the Financial District and it took me completely out of the movie as I wondered why they'd use such aggressively recognizable Manhattan locations for a fictional city.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:01
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VanSandman posted:Yeah as I get older the weaknesses of Nolan as a filmmaker become more obvious. Yeah, I think partly his peccadilloes are more noticeable both because we've all gotten older and because he's put out more of a catalog, it's easier to see the trend. Also he's gotten a lot worse as a filmmaker. Insomnia's loving great, and although it's flawed The Prestige holds up pretty well too.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:02
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Kinda gets weird since, thematically, Gotham City has basically been New York, and a bit of Chicago, to the point of outright taking the place of said city in-universe, so aggressively using Manhattan might have been exactly the point. Metropolis varies a bit more traditionally, though BvS takes the funny route of Metropolis being NYC while Gotham right across the bay is New Jersey.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:06
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Metropolis varies a bit more traditionally, though BvS takes the funny route of Metropolis being NYC while Gotham right across the bay is New Jersey. That's basically how it is in the comics if the wiki is anything to go by. Bruce Wayne is New Jersey royalty.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:30
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Sorry to interrupt super hero and predator chat, but I've been on this mission to watch 70s-80s movies that I somehow missed up to this point. Last night's feature was Midnight Run with Robert De Niro and Charles Grodin for the first time last night. I thought it was a good movie and kept me solidly entertained for two hours. The problem? The musical score is quite possibly the most grating music to ever grace a movie. Most of it sounded like kooky sitcom music that could have been used in a bizarro world Seinfeld and really cheapened the movie. It also didn't help that it was mixed so it was 1.5x as loud as everything else in the movie. It bad enough that I almost turned it off and found something else because the "music" was that bad.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:34
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Movies in the 80's are gonna be weird as synthesisers/electronic music started coming in. Nothing like a serious period piece getting these warble synth sounds to make everything more  .
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Jul 21, 2021 15:41
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kinda gets weird since, thematically, Gotham City has basically been New York, and a bit of Chicago, to the point of outright taking the place of said city in-universe, so aggressively using Manhattan might have been exactly the point. I prefer the continuity where Metropolis is in Delaware, because it’s very funny to imagine Metropolis being in Delaware.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:36
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Henchman of Santa posted:I prefer the continuity where Metropolis is in Delaware, because it’s very funny to imagine Metropolis being in Delaware. While in some cases (like Smallville) it's in Kansas. Funny thing is that in some versions of the endlessly retconned/rebooted DC universe, there's also a New York. Which is called 'The Cinderella City' in-universe because Gotham and Metropolis overshadow it. Also I think BTAS has 'Gotham State' license places.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:49
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Isn't DC's Philadelphia equivalent called something dumb like Penn City?
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Henchman of Santa posted:Schumacher Gotham has the most insane set design I’ve ever seen. Its honestly amazing. I'd love to see a non-batman movie with the same city design. Really out there. Some of the spaces in Schumacher Gotham are like, insanely non-realistic. There's one point where Batman & Robin jump the batmobile on some huge skyscraper and its just bonkers. But in a good way.
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I wish Schumacher had never apologized for his version of Batman. It seems clear to me that he was going for an update of the vibe of the Adam West show and B&R remains one of the most fun 'so bad it's good' movies to rewatch. I know it's not what modern Batman fans wanted but he directed it, not them. I've definitely watched B&R more often, on purpose, than I have Batman Forever. Or Batman Begins. Or Dark Knight Rises. DC could use a lot more of that willingness to embrace the campy, colorful, goofy side of comics over the grimdark 'realism' of the Nolan/Snyderverse.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:46
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Also Schumacher was under pressure to produce tons of toys they could sell, which is why they didn't go with Tim Burton again in the first place, right? So at that point some of the bad decisions were probably things the studio pushed on him. But yeah, while they're definitely not anything close to great movies, I really enjoy B&R and BF and I think they both get a really bad unfair rap from people who don't get that its on purpose. Course by that token I think Waterworld is an underrated movie so I'm just crazy.
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Yeah, the toy line for Batman & Robin was created before the movie and then those things had to be included. That’s why Batman, Robin, and Batgirl have several costume changes throughout, and they suddenly have three brand new vehicles at the end that they use for ninety seconds.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:16
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I believe those Batman movies are where the word "toyetic" came from.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:21
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Seriously these matte paintings and miniature sets are up there with like, Blade Runner  
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kinda gets weird since, thematically, Gotham City has basically been New York, and a bit of Chicago, to the point of outright taking the place of said city in-universe, so aggressively using Manhattan might have been exactly the point. The upcoming Batman is filmed in Liverpool, I think it makes for an interesting Gotham. 
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Jul 21, 2021 19:05
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Annabel Pee posted:The upcoming Batman is filmed in Liverpool, I think it makes for an interesting Gotham. https://youtu.be/m0GUbAImHuw
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Jul 21, 2021 19:11
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If anyone itt is into physical media I highly recommend the Batman UHDs, the whole series is really excellent. The Schumacher films look great with HDR.
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Jul 21, 2021 19:16
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Man the thought of everyone in Gotham sounding like the vultures in Jungle Book slays me.
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Jul 21, 2021 19:22
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Joel Schumacher is unironically one of my favorite directors.
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Armacham posted:Joel Schumacher is unironically one of my favorite directors. Flatliners, Falling Down, St. Elmo's Fire, even D.C. Cab and 8mm are bangers.
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Wasabi the J posted:Man the thought of everyone in Gotham sounding like the vultures in Jungle Book slays me.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Flatliners, Falling Down, St. Elmo's Fire, even D.C. Cab and 8mm are bangers. People also seem to forget that he did two of the best Grisham movies, The Client and A Time To Kill, right around the same time he did the Batman movies. That's range.
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 I have Schumacher's IMDB page open and completely skimmed over The Client and A Time To Kill, both of which I like.
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Those are good but the best Grisham movie is the Rainmaker.
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Turning Red looks kinda cute. is Disney seriously doing a loving prequel to live action Beauty and the Beast?
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Cowslips Warren posted:Turning Red looks kinda cute. If they do, I got an IIMM: Luke Evans in leading roles. I like Luke Evans, in theory. He was among the less mind-numbingly boring parts of The Alienist, he was a mean and gorgeous Zeus in The Immortals, he's generally OK to good in small doses. But when he does anything more than a supporting character, my mind switches off. It's like if you increase his screen time and importance for the overall movie, he transforms into Sam Worthington. I haven't seen the live action Beauty and the Beast, but have seen Evans' Gaston song on Youtube and I was bored to tears by one of the greatest Disney villain songs of all time.
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I still think it was weird that both Luke Evans and Orlando Bloom were in the Hobbit, and Luke Evans looked more like Orlando Bloom than Orlando Bloom did
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I can't recall the name of the movie, but Luke Evans plays a serial killer in it, and he's damned good at it. Dude plays unhinged pretty well. Wish he'd get more chances to be a villain. Same movie has the girl from the second silent hill movie in it.
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Imagined posted:I wish Schumacher had never apologized for his version of Batman. It seems clear to me that he was going for an update of the vibe of the Adam West show and B&R remains one of the most fun 'so bad it's good' movies to rewatch. I know it's not what modern Batman fans wanted but he directed it, not them. I've definitely watched B&R more often, on purpose, than I have Batman Forever. Or Batman Begins. Or Dark Knight Rises. DC could use a lot more of that willingness to embrace the campy, colorful, goofy side of comics over the grimdark 'realism' of the Nolan/Snyderverse. I think Batman and Robin has a secret progressive message. It makes a mockery of its superheroes, a family of billionaires who operate outside the law, by depicting them flaunting their credit cards and wearing molded rubber suits to pretend they have muscles. Meanwhile it never really gives us a reason to dislike the "villains:" a woman who wants to plant more plants and a man who wants to cool down the planet. Like, I'm not totally up on when various characterizations of Batman characters got locked down, but I know that since the animated series Mr. Freeze has universally been portrayed as a tragic antihero, and Poison Ivy genuinely doesn't seem to have a goal other than "more plants now" and she only hurts people tangentially. I stan them both Android Apocalypse posted:Flatliners, Falling Down, St. Elmo's Fire, even D.C. Cab and 8mm are bangers. St. Elmo's Fire is extremely bad garbage and like half the characters in it are rapists. Sagebrush has a new favorite as of 23:18 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 23:06
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Bangin' theme song though.
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Phy posted:I still think it was weird that both Luke Evans and Orlando Bloom were in the Hobbit, and Luke Evans looked more like Orlando Bloom than Orlando Bloom did It was seriously distracting how much Luke Evans looked like Will Turner in the Hobbit, I thought I was losing my mind,
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I can't recall the name of the movie, but Luke Evans plays a serial killer in it, and he's damned good at it. Dude plays unhinged pretty well. Wish he'd get more chances to be a villain. Same movie has the girl from the second silent hill movie in it. No One Lives. That was the one that turned me off of him as a leading man, sadly. I like the director, and I liked Evans from previous supporting roles, but that movie did not come together for me at all. In no small part because I got tired of Evans' performance very early into the movie, and it only got worse when he went full Terminator on the bunch of unlikable rednecks later on. He does smug untouchable prick very well, I will give him that. There is apparently another movie with Evans as a serial killer and the actress of the girl he had kidnapped in No One Lives and I never bothered to check if those movies are connected.
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