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I have a win10 home server which isn't running any fancy NAS software or anything like that, just a small cheap PC with a big HDD that is accessed via RDP, running a plex server. Every now and then, maybe once every two months, I find it's turned off. I suspect it's windows update forcing a restart but then it doesn't automatically log in to the windows account and maybe shuts down after sitting in the login state for x hours? It doesn't seem to coincide to windows updates on my main PC all the time. When I spot check it with hwinfo64 it's never overheating, seems to be running pretty normally, don't really see anything concerning. How do you check to see what it was that gave the last command to turn off/restart a PC? Thanks.
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I have a PC I'm thinking of selling, and want to sell it with Windows installed. If I use a Windows 7 key to upgrade to 10, does it have to be activated with a Microsoft account, or can I install Windows with no key and supply it to the person that buys my PC and they can add it later?
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Jul 21, 2021 19:39
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VelociBacon posted:but then it doesn't automatically log in to the windows account and maybe shuts down after sitting in the login state for x hours? AFAIK the only thing the login screen changes w/r/t power settings is turning off the screen after 1 minute, but I'm not totally sure on that point. VelociBacon posted:How do you check to see what it was that gave the last command to turn off/restart a PC? Thanks. you can try powercfg /systempowerreport (needs elevated command prompt), but it doesn't always have reasons for full power cycles (it's more for sleep) Aside from that you can look in "reliability history" (just type that in start) to see if the reboots are marked as unexpected. If so, what you might have is hardware problems causing reboots / power off. The fact that you find the PC turned fully off makes me suspect hardware, potentially PSU slowly fading out. e: Medullah posted:If I use a Windows 7 key to upgrade to 10, does it have to be activated with a Microsoft account nope, you can install 10 using the 7 key, do the setup process offline so you get local account, and then it'll activate as soon as you get internet Klyith fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 19:57
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Medullah posted:I have a PC I'm thinking of selling, and want to sell it with Windows installed. If I use a Windows 7 key to upgrade to 10, does it have to be activated with a Microsoft account, or can I install Windows with no key and supply it to the person that buys my PC and they can add it later? If you do an upgrade I believe Windows 10 will automatically look at the Windows 7 key and activate your Win 10 install (and possibly inactivate your Win 7 key? I'm not sure about this), as soon as the PC is online. What you want to do, probably, is upgrade to Windows 10, tie the install to your personal Microsoft account, transfer that activation to a separate PC (which should deactivate the original install), format the drive, install Windows 10 again directly from media, skip the activation, create a generic user account, and hand over the PC in that state. Then the new owner can buy a key and reactivate however they want (they might even get lucky and Win 10 will activate anyway because MS is really bad at deactivating old installs). That all sounds like a lot of work. I would just take the L on Win 7 key, and flatten the drive, or some combination of the above.
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Jul 21, 2021 20:00
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Klyith posted:AFAIK the only thing the login screen changes w/r/t power settings is turning off the screen after 1 minute, but I'm not totally sure on that point. This is perfect - thanks so much. Interesting, looks like I have some investigation to do:  I had actually uninstalled Radeon because that server is using an AMD Athelon 5350 which I don't really think needs the separate driver suite (integrated AMD HD 8400). I wonder if having that was causing conflicts somewhere. Or maybe the integrated GPU just threw a random error as the system lost power or something.
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Jul 21, 2021 20:45
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:If you do an upgrade I believe Windows 10 will automatically look at the Windows 7 key and activate your Win 10 install (and possibly inactivate your Win 7 key? I'm not sure about this), as soon as the PC is online. I *want* to give them a 7 key, so it's not taking a L.  Ideally I'd like to sell a fully functioning machine as I think that will up the value a tiny amount.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:18
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:(and possibly inactivate your Win 7 key? I'm not sure about this) As a practical matter, no, not really. They count the number of times each key has been used to activate on unique hardware, and their system is aimed mainly at preventing large scale key re-use. After a number of activations you'll get the manual activation via MS support (used to be a phone #, but now they try to make you do it through online chat). All you have to do is tell the flunky you upgraded to new hardware and you get a new activation that doesn't invalidate the old one. You could use this to activate 2 machines off the same key and get away with it, but the next activation after that will be much harder. But I also think that they've raised the number of times a key auto-activates -- I've had to call MS for 7 but never yet for 10. So the other thing is, if Win10 has been installed on a machine, then it should activate again without the need to enter a key. As soon as it hits the internet it'll connect to the activation server with its hardware hash and get the ok. So that would be a way to give someone a PC that has win10 installed, but still have the first power-on be the user creation first-time setup.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:31
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Medullah posted:I *want* to give them a 7 key, so it's not taking a L. Ah, cool, I misread your post as wanting to sell them the PC with windows installed but not necessarily giving them the key. Then, yeah, install Win 10, make sure it's activated and then optionally maybe do the a Windows Reset or straight up flatten then the drive and reinstall Windows 10 (it should re-activate automatically), depending on how concerned you're about your data.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:42
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Just install TempleOS. It’s free and the Godly way to proceed.
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Jul 22, 2021 00:25
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About a week ago, my computer decided it didn't want to go to sleep overnight. But not in the usual way! When I put it to sleep in the evening, the lights and fans stay on a lot longer than normal but eventually it just turns off completely. It's completely off, I have to start it by pressing the power button. When I put it to sleep during the day (typically around 0700 when I go to work) it goes to sleep properly. When I get home from work it wakes up fine. I can't see anything obvious in the event log apart from the improper shutdown detected. Is there any way to troubleshoot this? I've tried Windows update, including optional drivers.
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Jul 22, 2021 04:22
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~Coxy posted:About a week ago, my computer decided it didn't want to go to sleep overnight. But not in the usual way! Shot in the dark here: I have an old motherboard with a Dehumidifier gimmick. If enabled, it'll run the fans for a while after OS shutdown before turning off, but it'll do it every time, not on a schedule or using a sensor. I kinda doubt it's a common feature or its evolved to be any smarter, but hey.
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Jul 22, 2021 07:04
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Uhm, remember how the thread's mantra in regards to antivirus software always was "Just stick with Windows Defender, it works and does not interfere as much with your system as other third party tools?" Welp (if true): quote:Windows Defender July Update - Will delete legitimate file from famous copyright case (DeCSS) https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/oof29b/windows_defender_july_update_will_delete/
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Jul 22, 2021 11:34
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doctorfrog posted:Shot in the dark here: I have an old motherboard with a Dehumidifier gimmick. If enabled, it'll run the fans for a while after OS shutdown before turning off, but it'll do it every time, not on a schedule or using a sensor. I kinda doubt it's a common feature or its evolved to be any smarter, but hey. That does nothing unless you’re using some kind of sub-ambient-temp cooling method and need to worry about condensation. Since you’re not an extreme overclocker in the vey early 2000s, it’s useless.
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Jul 22, 2021 16:28
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Anyone have any recommendations for a way to make the computer go to sleep at a certain time every day? I don't like it going to sleep automatically because I use Plex, but sometimes I forget to put it to sleep at the end of the night and when I go into work in the morning it's hotttttttttttttttttttt
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Jul 23, 2021 14:25
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Medullah posted:Anyone have any recommendations for a way to make the computer go to sleep at a certain time every day? I don't like it going to sleep automatically because I use Plex, but sometimes I forget to put it to sleep at the end of the night and when I go into work in the morning it's hotttttttttttttttttttt Nircmd does everything! "nircmd.exe standby" Use Task Scheduler to make a task that runs every day at whatever time you want the PC to sleep, with nircmd.exe as the action and standby in the arguments.
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Jul 23, 2021 14:45
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Klyith posted:Nircmd does everything! "nircmd.exe standby" Oh hell yeah I just started using it, don't know why I didn't think to check. Perfect thanks. Edit - Created and tested, exactly what I needed. Someone suggested charging the thread title to "NIRCMD can do what you're about to ask about" and I agree 💯 Medullah fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Jul 23, 2021 14:52
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Medullah posted:Edit - Created and tested, exactly what I needed. Someone suggested charging the thread title to "NIRCMD can do what you're about to ask about" and I agree 💯 Seconded!
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Jul 23, 2021 16:00
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Ghostlight posted:Microsoft Lists is basically an attempt to build a lite Excel using a Sharepoint backend. I looked into using Excel but it apparently doesn't support simultaneous multi-user edit, so that's a no-go. Is PowerBI difficult to learn?
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Aug 1, 2021 00:48
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WattsvilleBlues posted:I looked into using Excel but it apparently doesn't support simultaneous multi-user edit, so that's a no-go. Excel? Assuming you're using Office 365 you can have multiple users editing one document...
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Aug 1, 2021 00:52
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Medullah posted:Excel? Assuming you're using Office 365 you can have multiple users editing one document... Maybe whatever I read was out of date or something.
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Aug 1, 2021 00:57
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Maybe whatever I read was out of date or something. Yeah we've got about 10 weekly/monthly reports that everyone has to update, we store them on a Teams/SharePoint site and everyone makes their changes. You even see little highlights with initials of who's making changes
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Aug 1, 2021 01:23
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Medullah posted:Excel? Assuming you're using Office 365 you can have multiple users editing one document... Not if the file is sitting in a windows file share. If it’s in one drive or share point, yes.
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Aug 1, 2021 01:38
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GreenNight posted:Not if the file is sitting in a windows file share. If it’s in one drive or share point, yes. Ah yeah I took that as a given.
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Aug 1, 2021 01:41
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Speaking of audio fuckiness on windows, I just tried to update my audio drivers for my Asus B550-F Wifi motherboard and it just broke audio from that device completely. It recognizes the audio device, but it doesn't output any sound. The audio mixer also shows no sound as happening even when audio is playing. When I click the test button in the advanced sound settings, it gives me an error saying "Failed to play test tone." Never seen that one before. I tried to roll back to my previous drivers and it's still doing it for some reason. Other audio devices work just fine (such as audio from my monitor). Did I just brick my onboard audio by trying to update my drivers??
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Aug 1, 2021 03:55
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Speaking of audio fuckiness on windows, I just tried to update my audio drivers for my Asus B550-F Wifi motherboard and it just broke audio from that device completely. It recognizes the audio device, but it doesn't output any sound. The audio mixer also shows no sound as happening even when audio is playing. When I click the test button in the advanced sound settings, it gives me an error saying "Failed to play test tone." Never seen that one before. I tried to roll back to my previous drivers and it's still doing it for some reason. Other audio devices work just fine (such as audio from my monitor). Did I just brick my onboard audio by trying to update my drivers?? No, it's not bricked, but drivers are hosed in some way. Rollback isn't a 100% success rate operation. It works much better on windows update delivered drivers, less well on manually installed drivers. Uninstall all realtek drivers with windows uninstall (both apps & features in new settings, and programs & features in old control panel). Reboot. Open device manager -> sound video & game controllers, if it still says realtek there then right-click, uninstall device, check the box for delete the driver software. Reboot. Now install the current drivers (direct from asus) and that'll hopefully do it. edit: also honestly audio drivers are something I'd tend to leave alone if everything is working fine. Or if you have windows update driver delivery turned on, just wait until MS decides a new realtek driver is worth putting out. Audio drivers aren't doing much these days, you're not missing out on hot new features or performance improvements from not having the latest driver. In games all the interesting stuff (3d sound effects etc) is happening on the CPU, the sound chip is whatever. Klyith fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Aug 1, 2021 04:34
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Yeah, it's not bricked. But the official drivers refuse to work for me. I managed to install the generic windows audio drivers, and those work. Just took a few restarts for windows to properly detect the device and install its own drivers. I have no idea why Asus' own drivers don't work. They come with all kinds of special spatial audio software and poo poo like DTS, so maybe that's loving with something somehow. I tried uninstalling just that software but it didn't help. The main thing I wanted to see is if I could find a way to reconfigure the rear audio jacks to have two mirrored outputs. I had that with my previous PC on an intel motherboard (also Realtek), but I haven't gotten that to work with my current onboard audio.
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Aug 1, 2021 05:01
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GreenNight posted:Not if the file is sitting in a windows file share. If it’s in one drive or share point, yes. A different (hidden and discontinued) feature works in a regular file share. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/about-the-shared-workbook-feature-49b833c0-873b-48d8-8bf2-c1c59a628534
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Aug 1, 2021 12:48
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Yeah, it's not bricked. But the official drivers refuse to work for me. I managed to install the generic windows audio drivers, and those work. Just took a few restarts for windows to properly detect the device and install its own drivers. I have no idea why Asus' own drivers don't work. They come with all kinds of special spatial audio software and poo poo like DTS, so maybe that's loving with something somehow. I tried uninstalling just that software but it didn't help. So I'm not at all sure what this mirrored output thing is. (I don't use the realtek audio on my desktop mobo, and in fact have it disabled entirely in the bios. Strictly so I can avoid realtek drivers.) Are you just duplicating the front 2ch to the rear output? That's something I'd probably look at doing in software, either with your audio player or with something like Virtual Audio Cable.
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Aug 1, 2021 15:04
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MikusR posted:A different (hidden and discontinued) feature works in a regular file share. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/about-the-shared-workbook-feature-49b833c0-873b-48d8-8bf2-c1c59a628534 I remember somebody showing me this just before the Office 365 version of Excel got co-editing. I was blown away, not least because I didn't understand why Microsoft hadn't been marketing this feature everywhere they could. Everybody I worked with--myself included--thought Google Sheets was so far ahead of Excel in this, but that shared workbook feature worked surprisingly well.
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Aug 1, 2021 15:20
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Klyith posted:So I'm not at all sure what this mirrored output thing is. (I don't use the realtek audio on my desktop mobo, and in fact have it disabled entirely in the bios. Strictly so I can avoid realtek drivers.) I'm trying to make it so the rear IO has two headphone out/front speaker out jacks. Basically, with my old onboard audio (also realtek), I could plug in two sets of headphones, use their control panel to reassign the jacks they're plugged in to to the same role, and then they'd both have the exact same output. So basically I want to be able to have system audio playing over two pairs of headphones at the same time. This also would be doable with the front panel audio, but... I broke both of those jacks by getting up and walking away with my headphones on (multiple times for each one  ). Doing this with only my rear audio hasn't been possible with my new mobo even though my old one could. I've tried looking at virtual audio cable, but that doesn't seem to do the trick (or if it does, I couldn't figure it out). And there's nothing in any program/windows settings I've seen that allows this.
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Aug 1, 2021 21:28
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You can buy Y cable splitters, that's how my wife has her desktop speakers and headphones are plugged in right now. If you can't get the MB or driver to do what you want it's a usable workaround. Eg, for 1/8 plugs: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Speak...splitter&sr=8-4
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Ynglaur posted:I was blown away, not least because I didn't understand why Microsoft hadn't been marketing this feature everywhere they could.
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Aug 1, 2021 23:24
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MikusR posted:Yeah, I wonder why they didn't market feature that doesn't require a subscription? I thought shared workbooks came out before O365? I could be wrong though.
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Can you just add a fresh boot partition and recover an existing OS partition (BitLocker encrypted) that lost its original one? My scenario is that I have two SSDs, the old one was the OS disk, when I added the new one I did a fresh install on it (or a clone, I don't remember). At boot I would get a choice of which Windows 10 I wanted to start. Now I've migrated everything I needed off the old drive, so I wiped it and installed Linux on it, but now the new drive isn't bootable anymore. Worse, while all drives were BitLocker encrypted, I can decrypt them from Linux using the Windows password, except for the new OS drive which rejects the password for some reason. If I re-wipe the old drive and install a fresh new Win10 on it, I hope it would pick up the existing installation like it did in the past. But what I would actually like to do is make the existing installation bootable. Could I just make some room on the new disk, copy the boot partition from a fresh temporary installation to it, and then get rid of the latter?
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Aug 4, 2021 01:49
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Whats the go to torrent client today? I always used qbittorrent for some years now (for how often I even download torrents) but it just got flagged by defender as having something malicious when I downloaded the latest version. e: Deluge gave the same warning and apparently the cited threat is a false positive, also given by nicehash which is a mining program apparently which I find a tad concerning codo27 fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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Aug 4, 2021 23:57
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I've gotten those flags with uTorrent and BitTorrent. At that point, I just figured Defender was hating torrent programs.
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Aug 5, 2021 00:16
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codo27 posted:Whats the go to torrent client today? I always used qbittorrent for some years now (for how often I even download torrents) but it just got flagged by defender as having something malicious when I downloaded the latest version. Probably because Defender is now copy protection and flagged it for working as intended. Keeping you from getting fresh Linux ISOs to replace malicious Windows.
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Aug 5, 2021 00:18
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There was a kerfuffle a while ago because utorrent had a miner bundled in the install package. I don’t think it does anymore but Defender is flagging it for a good reason. I wouldn’t trust it.
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Fruits of the sea posted:There was a kerfuffle a while ago because utorrent had a miner bundled in the install package. I don’t think it does anymore but Defender is flagging it for a good reason. I wouldn’t trust it. Ah, then I echo codo27's question.
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a. Current stable version of qbittorrent, downloaded from their official fosshob, is clean on defender for me. If you have "potentially unwanted app blocking" turned on, that's probably what flagged it. That feature is stupid restrictive as to what it calls potentially unwanted. It's more like a whitelist for the MS seal of approval than a blocklist. b. If defender flags something that you'd normally trust and you want a second opinion, you can upload to virustotal to see what other engines think about it. c. If you're worried about apps bundling crapware in their installers, try opening the installer exe with 7zip! You can grab the program out and install it yourself! (Qbittorrent doesn't have crapware though.) d. If you want another torrent app to try, I just recently saw this one called LIII that's very lightweight and minimal. Like if you're one-off downloading an actual linux iso or libreoffice, rather than have torrents running all the time, it might be a good choice.
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