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pnac attack posted:ok, i get that. but being able to yoink all traffic is pretty much the same as being at the center. No it isn't. A camera on the side of a highway is not the same thing as the highway. pnac attack posted:with dank memes and engaging influencers. capturing the best of what we are and turning it against us. hosed up Good lord your entire ideology IS gently caress you dad. Usually MLs at least ar exaggerating about that but lordy.
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Yossarian-22 posted:Pnac but guarding one computer server in Utah https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNstQ6q-kYw Shooting the 1 server like 
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Yossarian-22 posted:Pnac but guarding one computer server in Utah https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNstQ6q-kYw replace the sugar with an urban garden and this is p much the perfect encapsulation of the anarchist belief system
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PhilippAchtel posted:It's this: Got a chance to watch this. Really interesting and, frankly, way better than what we have in america. What was the reaction/resistance to Cuba enacting a few capitalist 'reforms' recently? With how the video describes their system it I would have assumed it would have gotten a ton of pushback.
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Sedisp posted:No it isn't. A camera on the side of a highway is not the same thing as the highway. that is one of many differences between cars and data Yossarian-22 posted:Pnac but guarding one computer server in Utah https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNstQ6q-kYw i'm a bee
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the tea drinking gentleman is also an anarchist
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pnac attack posted:ok, i get that. but being able to yoink all traffic is pretty much the same as being at the center. they aren't just there, they're in all the big hubs you know? if you're using the regular internet it's going into this hole in utah that the man uses to creep on us so he can control us better. with dank memes and engaging influencers. capturing the best of what we are and turning it against us. hosed up Who else could wade through the sea of garbage we produce, retrieve valuable truths and even interpret their meaning for later generations?
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fallout has taught us that the future is basically an eternal quagmire between california and the mormans so this really all checks out so far
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Lib and let die posted:Who else could wade through the sea of garbage we produce, retrieve valuable truths and even interpret their meaning for later generations? no person could, there's just too much. that's for a spooky ai brought up first on facial recognition then advertising analytics then market manipulation to take a crack at. born out of the patriot act and raised by darpa/google/vegas syndicates. loving this trajectory and sure it will do a great job
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pnac attack posted:that is one of many differences between cars and data Not really? Anything you do on a car on a monitored highway can theoretically be monitored. Point is the infrastructure that makes it possible is not the same thing as things that monitor it. Like this isn't some philosophical big brained thing they are just two different things. pnac attack posted:
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pnac attack posted:no person could, there's just too much. that's for a spooky ai brought up first on facial recognition then advertising analytics then market manipulation to take a crack at. born out of the patriot act and raised by darpa/google/vegas syndicates. loving this trajectory and sure it will do a great job We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures, symbols; from tablets to books - that's what history is!
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Lib and let die posted:We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures, symbols; from tablets to books - that's what history is! don't think that record has ever been so granular, centralized, or one-sided before
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Sedisp posted:Not really? Anything you do on a car on a monitored highway can theoretically be monitored. Point is the infrastructure that makes it possible is not the same thing as things that monitor it. Like this isn't some philosophical big brained thing they are just two different things. bees are dope as hell and there's nothing i love more than expressing myself through dance, gathering nectar, and laying/following pheromone trails. treat this hive like anarchy could work if you're really this stuck on the car analogy let me put it like. nsa control of internet hubs isn't like having a camera out on the road it's like having full camera coverage+control of all the signals+the ability to close roads+patrol cars out for enforcement. it's absolute control over that infrastructure by a central authority whether you call it "centralized" or not
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pnac attack posted:bees are dope as hell and there's nothing i love more than expressing myself through dance, gathering nectar, and laying/following pheromone trails. treat this hive like anarchy could work So.... a state.... completely dedicated to the survival of the state. lol Again are you sure you're not an anarcho-fascist? You seem to keep describing completely terrible systems for humans and being like "yeah poo poo that's dope" pnac attack posted:if you're really this stuck on the car analogy let me put it like. nsa control of internet hubs isn't like having a camera out on the road it's like having full camera coverage+control of all the signals+the ability to close roads+patrol cars out for enforcement. it's absolute control over that infrastructure by a central authority whether you call it "centralized" or not That's not what the Utah data center does though. Nor does the NSA HAVE that ability to shut down the internet. The analogy was just explaining that monitoring something does not make it the infrastructure that allows the thing to happen you don't need to take it literally and as data flows a lot more easily than traffic it's even an analogy that is slanted in your favor. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 01:36 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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pnac attack posted:don't think that record has ever been so granular, centralized, or one-sided before Is that even your own idea? Or is it something Snake told you?
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Sedisp posted:So.... a state.... completely dedicated to the survival of the state. i'm not actually cause i don't even know what that means. the feds totally can and do shut down comms on people all the drat time, this is common knowledge to anyone who's ever actually bumped up against them but here's some authority for you to appeal to with citations and all that https://epic.org/foia/dhs/internet-kill-switch/ Lib and let die posted:Is that even your own idea? Or is it something Snake told you? please don't bring your animes into this
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pnac attack posted:i'm not actually cause i don't even know what that means. the feds totally can and do shut down comms on people all the drat time, this is common knowledge to anyone who's ever actually bumped up against them but here's some authority for you to appeal to with citations and all that https://epic.org/foia/dhs/internet-kill-switch/ So we have gone from the central internet hub is in Utah, to well it's sorta the same thing to well they can shut down cell phones. Seems like you're not really sure what you're talking about.
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Sedisp posted:So we have gone from the central internet hub is in Utah, to well it's sorta the same thing to well they can shut down cell phones. "control of the internet and because of that our culture is centralized/held by the rich" is the last thing i remember saying before becoming disoriented by a whirlwind of pedantry and anime refs
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I'd like to point out that the internet or at least the modern web is pretty centralized and it's because the US government owns and operates the 20 something root DNS servers, of which even stuff like GoogleDNS are just mirrors of. it would be survivable because there are mirrors and stuff but you could probably shut the internet down for at least a little while by just cutting some power in DC
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pnac attack posted:every system is flawed, i'll have no gods or masters ur the area crustpunk commune beatboxer who wants to eat nectar more than the rich and you claim to not like anime. curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQ1Y8nPz0Q
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pnac what's your favorite song off of the rock against bush album? if you don't have one then you can pick one off of american idiot
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I want to go back to how damning the 99% of humanity, starting with the least white, is actually anarchism and not baldfaced ecofascism because because uh uhhhhhh
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Yossarian-22 posted:ur the area crustpunk commune beatboxer who wants to eat nectar more than the rich and you claim to not like anime. curious you are what you eat Yossarian-22 posted:pnac what's your favorite song off of the rock against bush album? if you don't have one then you can pick one off of american idiot i had to pull up a track list but sink florida sink off vol1 and unity off vol2
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:I want to go back to how damning the 99% of humanity, starting with the least white, is actually anarchism and not baldfaced ecofascism because surely you don't need to make it a race thing just to own me
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Umberto Ecofash
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pnac attack posted:surely you don't need to make it a race thing just to own me I wonder if the rich white people living in the global north will die first or the poor brown people in the global south will be the first to die from famine, plague, and climate disaster hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm honest bro I wasn’t trying to be a fascist it just keeps happening
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:look I don’t lust for the death of Makin' the mother of all omelettes here, Jack!
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Lib and let die posted:Makin' the mother of all omelettes here, Jack! it’s their fault, when you think about it. the planet just wasn’t meant for billions of people to get to live out my dumbass fantasy of living in a hut in the woods. that’s meant for me. everyone else has to die. sorry fr fr!!! 😢😞😭
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so when un estimates say that we have the capacity to feed tens of billions how does that mesh with your view of the world pnac
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Sedisp posted:Nor does the NSA HAVE that ability to shut down the internet i don't think anyone has the actual ability to shut down the internet. i mean yes there are people would could order the big data lines cut or whatever, but how long could they maintain social order after doing that?
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Yossarian-22 posted:so when un estimates say that we have the capacity to feed tens of billions how does that mesh with your view of the world pnac This is an appeal to authority statist and also the best society is bees
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The government could just order isps to redirect all dns traffic to a fake internet if they wanted. They could be doing it now!
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Hatebag posted:The government could just order isps to redirect all dns traffic to a fake internet if they wanted. They could be doing it now! i know its the real internet someone bought a boardgame from me from a facebook ad today. i mean i suppose they could be a government agent.....
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Hatebag posted:The government could just order isps to redirect all dns traffic to a fake internet if they wanted. They could be doing it now! mother of god.... *vape pen whirr*
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Just enough to make you think it's real and then bam! A baseball bat to the back of the head. Oldest trick in the book
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What if the orders to redirect traffic to the fake internet came from the fake government?
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Why do you think all these companies have been making ai posters? Think!
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