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TheScott2K posted:I thought Deus Ex was an okay game with a few really good bits. It didn't look very good, didn't run very well, and had a whole lot of jank. It did that fake choice between playing it as a decent stealth game or a terrible shooter and nowadays everyone's loving gaga over it. People forgive a lot of stuff because it's old but that stuff was wack back then too. What a bizarrely ahistorical take. Nobody liked Deus Ex back in the day, yeah. I first played it in like 2005 and even 5 years removed from its original release date there was still nothing quite like it.
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TheScott2K posted:I thought Deus Ex was an okay game with a few really good bits. It didn't look very good, didn't run very well, and had a whole lot of jank. It did that fake choice between playing it as a decent stealth game or a terrible shooter and nowadays everyone's loving gaga over it. People forgive a lot of stuff because it's old but that stuff was wack back then too.  2/3 (or 3/4 if you liked Deus Ex Go I guess)
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Jul 21, 2021 09:30
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Gobblecoque posted:Deus Ex owned when it released and it still owns today.
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Jul 21, 2021 11:24
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Eidos Montreal's Deus Exes were great, but I still love DE1 way more, and I didn't even get to play through that game til like 2009. It has some jank, but it's predictable jank and there's not a whole lot of it
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Jul 21, 2021 12:01
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I'm not a fan of Deus Ex either. The shooting is way too bad at the start (so a special agent can't shoot a pistol for poo poo) and even with the proper skills it doesn't get much better (and by better I mean enjoyable for me). It has great dialogue and does cool stuff but it isn't even on my top 20 games. I rather play Human Revolution or even Mankind Divided instead. I like System Shock 2 though. Deus Ex memes and shitposts are amazing.
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Jul 21, 2021 12:07
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The original Deus Ex is great and so was at least the first new one (it's the only one I played).
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Jul 21, 2021 13:32
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OG Deus Ex is great, you philistines! But they are more about exploration, choices and their tradeoffs, and resource management than action. Deus Ex HR & Mankind streamlines too much to be good Deus Exes. Their character progression is bad, the stealth is too casualized unbalancing the game, and some items break the game.
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Jul 21, 2021 13:56
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It was really funny in the new game stacking boxes around a door in the police station so I could hack into it. I will say it also had one of my gaming "holy poo poo" moments when I was sneaking around and an NPC actually did a turnaround to check his back as he was walking his path. Mad I didn't get the pacifist achievement despite doing it on hard. The helicopter crash sequence had to be orchestrated perfectly.
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Jul 21, 2021 13:59
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prey 2017 adding a nerf dart crossbow that can specifically activate touchscreens is still probably one of the coolest things i've ever seen in a game of that sort just because of the cool poo poo you can do with it, especially if you're specifically avoiding using neuromods for abilities and whatnot
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Jul 21, 2021 14:02
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The shooting being bad is dx1 is fine since you shouldn't be using anything other than the blackjack anyways
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Jul 21, 2021 14:09
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Groovelord Neato posted:The original Deus Ex is great and so was at least the first new one (it's the only one I played). Mankind Divided is awesome and has one of the best hub worlds in any game.
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Jul 21, 2021 14:26
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Gobblecoque posted:Deus Ex owned when it released and it still owns today. I first played it a few years after release and fell in love. I still replay it (mods and all) every few years. Dues Ex owns. It sucks the series died after Mankind Divided. Human Revolution had shown so much promise. 
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Jul 21, 2021 14:43
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Johnny Joestar posted:prey 2017 adding a nerf dart crossbow that can specifically activate touchscreens is still probably one of the coolest things i've ever seen in a game of that sort just because of the cool poo poo you can do with it, especially if you're specifically avoiding using neuromods for abilities and whatnot Most of the "weapons" in that game are explicitly not weapons - not even in the Dead Space "mining tool but actually gun" way, just legit not even remotely weapons, and it's so so good. Also OG DX is good, as are the Jensen games, and gently caress me, I just wanna replay them all now! I think HR is my favorite in terms of hitting a sweet spot for the series, but they're all so drat good.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:00
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site posted:The shooting being bad is dx1 is fine since you shouldn't be using anything other than the blackjack anyways Give me the gep gun. Sometimes you've got to make a silent takedown.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:50
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Gobblecoque posted:Give me the gep gun. Sometimes you've got to make a silent takedown. Go in and go in and go in and go in like the US marshals and his three daughters. Take PILLS on my orders.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:33
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Gobblecoque posted:Give me the gep gun. Sometimes you've got to make a silent takedown. If there are only gibs around, nothing is left that has heard you. That's almost exactly the same as being slient.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:40
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If you don’t like the gunplay then use GMDX. It makes it feel a whole lot better, among other things.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:41
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All this talk just makes me wish Gloomwood was out.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:43
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shoeberto posted:Also OG DX is good, as are the Jensen games, and gently caress me, I just wanna replay them all now! I think HR is my favorite in terms of hitting a sweet spot for the series, but they're all so drat good. yeah actually i had picked up md over Christmas and haven't gotten around to it yet. kinda feel like starting that series playthrough after i wrap up my current game
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Jul 21, 2021 17:04
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Just a heads up about MD: Everyone complains that it just ends, which it kinda does story-wise, but it actually has an effective finale from a gameplay perspective. So don't let that naysaying turn you off, it's a really very good game. But HR is just a better overall package imo. (People say to avoid the director's cut? I'm not sure if it's even possible nowadays, but I can't speak from any experience, I just own the original)
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Jul 21, 2021 17:20
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Do people say that? The director's cut has better boss fights for sure and I'm struggling to think of a downside over the original, though its been awhile.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:34
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I wouldn't say avoid the Director's Cut of HR but I really don't like the way the DLC is shoehorned into the middle of the campaign because it takes away all your augments and makes you start from a blank slate until the end of the DLC when you get your Praxis points back. I didn't even really like it that much to begin with. And then I did an NG+ playthrough only to find that the DLC resets you to absolute zero and then only gives you back an NG amount of Praxis points, making the game identical to NG after that point, so my playthrough ended there.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:39
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The DC opens up your options for dealing with the boss fights. The original fights were more straight up action scenes that didn’t suit everyone’s play-style. The Fedorova fight was pretty tough in my first time through. Edit: Yeah, the DLC suddenly getting jammed into the beginning of the movie third act just doesn’t feel right, and you can’t turn it off. I liked MD a lot better. One thing it does better than just about any other game is let you feel like you’re taking part in a dynamic mission where things can change rapidly. Particularly the opening and final missions.
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Finishing MD with a nonlethal takedown of the end boss was funny as hell and also pretty satisfying.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:47
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The Director's Cut removes a lot of the yellow/gold color tinting from the original release. Not sure why! I mean I guess some folks complained about it but it was sure a distinctive look. There's a thing here to try to restore the look, although I haven't tried it myself: https://github.com/CookiePLMonster/DXHRDC-GFX/releases
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Jul 21, 2021 18:14
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Revisiting Hexen, and I forgot a lot about the later sections of the game. This trap in Gibbet owns.
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MMF Freeway posted:Do people say that? The director's cut has better boss fights for sure and I'm struggling to think of a downside over the original, though its been awhile. I remember people making a stink back when it came out about technical issues or something. No idea if that's just extremely-online people making GBS threads on it because ???reasons??? or if any of it was valid.
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Johnny Joestar posted:prey 2017 adding a nerf dart crossbow that can specifically activate touchscreens is still probably one of the coolest things i've ever seen in a game of that sort just because of the cool poo poo you can do with it, especially if you're specifically avoiding using neuromods for abilities and whatnot People wrecking the poo poo out of Prey demo with gluegun madness was glorious
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Jul 21, 2021 19:52
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Cruelty Squad is probably my favorite indie game of all time. Haven't 100% completed it yet but I've played 12 hours and I love the gameplay and aesthetics. The lack of saving gives it kind of a dark souls feel which I love. I also happen to be playing through Mankind Divided. It feels like a DLC but the map is cool and I love looting apartments so I'm enjoying it. I think I got it for like 4 dollars.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:21
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shoeberto posted:I remember people making a stink back when it came out about technical issues or something. No idea if that's just extremely-online people making GBS threads on it because ???reasons??? or if any of it was valid. the director's cut reintroduced a bunch of bugs that had previously been patched out of the original release, as well as adding a few new ones
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Weedle posted:the director's cut reintroduced a bunch of bugs that had previously been patched out of the original release, as well as adding a few new ones It does fix a massive flaw in the original by letting you get around the boss fights, also they upped the energy regeneration thing to 2 bars instead of 1 which helps a lot. There's a mod which restores the original look as well.
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Jul 21, 2021 23:25
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JLaw posted:The Director's Cut removes a lot of the yellow/gold color tinting from the original release. Not sure why! I mean I guess some folks complained about it but it was sure a distinctive look. I might have to check this out. Kinda funny that on my first playthrough I used a mod to remove the yellow filter, now I'm gonna use a mod to put it back in Also that menu theme is so drat good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxcYSEcH8Fk
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Guillermus posted:I'm not a fan of Deus Ex either. The shooting is way too bad at the start (so a special agent can't shoot a pistol for poo poo) and even with the proper skills it doesn't get much better (and by better I mean enjoyable for me). It has great dialogue and does cool stuff but it isn't even on my top 20 games. I rather play Human Revolution or even Mankind Divided instead. Yeah, I found it took until around Hong Kong for the pistol I'd been dumping all my points into to finally feel like an effective option, which is a lot of gameplay to spend feeling woefully underpowered. Although around the same time the enemies switch to absolute dogshit weapons which makes the later half of the game bizarrely easier. I need to get back to HR, I keep on getting distracted partway through. Guillermus posted:Deus Ex memes and shitposts are amazing. 
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picked up cruelty squad and this game is just loving amazing. it took me a little bit to get into it but it finally clicked. the movement and gunplay feel so much better than a game where you have to hold rightclick and drag your mouse down to reload ever should
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I'm getting back into Blood and playing Post Mortem, which I skipped for Death Wish. It's... okay. Aqueduct is an awful level though.
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dracula vladdy AF posted:I'm getting back into Blood and playing Post Mortem, which I skipped for Death Wish. It's... okay. Aqueduct is an awful level though. Post Mortem is... fine. Agreed. Cryptic Passage is 110% worth your time though
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Earthless: Prelude is now available for download within the official Doom port on Steam and consoles. Earthless, but not necessarily Switchless.
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Guillermus posted:Deus Ex memes and shitposts are amazing. Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Jul 22, 2021 19:47
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Has anyone here tried the Hexen Rebalanced mod? It sounds promising.
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I've tried and failed to do another playthrough of Mankind Divided something like 3 times now. Can't seem to get into it. HR I replayed fully something like 3 or 4 times. Also bought it on the Wii U... for... some reason.
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