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Mister Speaker posted:I finally caved and watched the trailers. Looks incredible. That's all. same. was gonna go dark, made a compromise with myself to only watch it once. maybe just get...a little dunc
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Jul 22, 2021 22:12
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535pm...going back for more trailer
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Jul 22, 2021 22:36
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I can't wait to get home and watch it on my TV instead of on my phone in a bathroom stall at work
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FBS posted:I can't wait to get home and watch it on my TV instead of on my phone in a bathroom stall at work I hope you had the sound up so it sounded like you were dropping a deuce and whispering to some guy named Paul
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Jul 22, 2021 22:42
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Uncle Enzo posted:This actually does make sense. On Caladan the Harkonnens would have had to fight a united, entrenched enemy on their home turf. Leto would have been able to recruit at will from the general populace and had the support of the power base of an entire planet. Transplanting him to Arrakis removes those advantages. Yeah, in the books they call it the assassin's war. A feudal monarchy is really only one step up from chaotic lawlessness. The only thing keeping the fraufreluches together is the Landsraad, the guild and the sisterhood, and they Are all doing it for self-serving reasons. Edit: also the H were just cleaning up a demesne that had sadly devolved into chaotic fighting due to an episode of violence sparked by a trusted retainer with a secret chip on his shoulder. If the H hadn't restored order, spice production would have been even more affected and think what that would have done to your balance sheets. exmachina fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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Jul 22, 2021 23:18
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Jul 22, 2021 23:40
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I was going to do a parody thread and even did a bit of work but no way. I'm too into it for real and frankly so are many other goons. I'm just going to savor it. It will be good even if it's not really, I'm a fanatic pretty much.
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Jul 22, 2021 23:44
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Yeah the trailer was really amazing, it looks good. The director etc. is all lined up to be great. Can "Groovelord Neato" gently caress off out of the thread, he's such a downer nerd bitch.
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Groovelord Neato is an Essential PosterRatios and Tendency posted:Rebecca Ferguson seems nice Yeah, I was sort of weirded out by her as the choice but the more I see the more I am starting to become convinced that she'll end up the definitive motion picture version of what is essentially the book's most important character. She really looks like she's giving it her all.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:Yeah the trailer was really amazing, it looks good. The director etc. is all lined up to be great. he has RLM thread poisoning. The thread about RLM and movies that doesn't like RLM or movies.
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skasion posted:It’s completely accepted under the forms of kanly that the Harkonnens won’t take their expulsion lying down. The emperor’s formal order to Leto is “to take possession of this planet and end all dispute”. This is a euphemism for military occupation. It’s implicit that he will need to take the planet with force and put down resistance. Change of fief is expected by everyone to be violent to some extent, which is why there’s an imperial official (Judge of the Change) on the spot to arbitrate the fighting and keep it from escalating into total war. The Landsraad and galaxy at large didn’t expect a full scale invasion, but that’s because of practical concerns like full scale invasions being ridiculously expensive, not because it’s morally or politically off limits to them to attack another house in properly declared kanly. The only things the Baron conceals are 1) the emperor’s involvement and 2) that the Duke refused to accept quarter and exile before he died. He totally wants other houses to know that he did all this. The Baron is obviously on the ruthless side by the standards of space nobility, but his actions are just pushing the envelope and not outrageous to anyone who isn’t directly concerned, at least as long as the emperor’s complicity is concealed. That’s how ritual vendetta works in their culture. The Baron is Donald Trump (if he was actually competent ). The other nobility hate/dislike him because he is crass, and "in-your-face" with his actions and decor. They don't hate him for anything that he has ACTUALLY DONE.
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Jul 23, 2021 00:47
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The more that comes out the more confidence in this I have. They're actually adapting it to the screen, instead of the attempted literal translation (or transliteration) of the other versions. We need to see the status quo of Harkonnen rule on Arrakis. We need to watch Leto decide to take the bait. We need the pomp of the official acceptance of the ordered move. We need to see the relationships between Gurney/Duncan/Hawat/Yueh/Leto/Jessica/Paul. We need to care about these people and understand what they're facing before poo poo really pops off. It's fine in the book to be dropped in the middle of things, everyone already committed. It's terrible for a film. Part of why the other versions are such characterless slogs is that the whole first act is completely on rails - everyone is just doing what they decided to do before we started watching, and nobody makes any new choices. Pair that with nebulous stakes and confusing worldbuilding and it's a wonder even fans who understand everything can sit through it. The only thing I'm not completely on board with is Helmet Paul - but I'm thinking that's got to be a vision. I like the idea of armor in Dune, it makes perfect sense for the Imperial soldier trained in shield fighting (and/or having to go without because of the worms). But not as much for the Fremen, and we don't see them in armor otherwise. So I'm hoping it's a clever sleight of hand, with Paul seeing that he'll lead Fremen in battle, but wrongly projecting his Imperial ideas of fighting on to the future. If not... I can live with it. Maybe it's just the design, every other weirdass helmet in the movie looks awesome.
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Johnny Aztec posted:The Baron is Donald Trump (if he was actually competent ). The other nobility hate/dislike him because he is crass, and "in-your-face" with his actions and decor. They don't hate him for anything that he has ACTUALLY DONE. Tbh the Baron isn’t all that competent, he persistently ignores the Fremen threat even though he knows his enemies took it very seriously. In the end the emperor misinterprets his incompetence as active collusion with the Atreides, he accuses the Baron of masterminding the whole affair to lure him here and coup him with a Fremen army.
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Also like Trump, the Baron is a hugely hypocritical snob who thinks the Fremen are subhuman rabble.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:Yeah the trailer was really amazing, it looks good. The director etc. is all lined up to be great. I figured everyone realized the reality of the situation was surprised people were mad about that. I have a Dune av. Regarde Aduck posted:he has RLM thread poisoning. Movies are mostly bad. This will not be one of those. I love this shot so much the scale is insane. 
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Jul 23, 2021 01:40
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DP Fraser got his reps in on the Death Star in Rogue One.
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Golden Armor Paul looks rad and seems totally in line with the Atreides love of conspicuous gallantry.
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loving lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfe_g92JAOs i had this in the background and the video audio started playing with the citypop talking about rolling sands and i though dennis went with a really hosed music choice
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Golden Armor Paul looks rad and seems totally in line with the Atreides love of conspicuous gallantry. I've said before that I'm pretty sure the Atreides are meant to have a Round Table vibe, with storied and skilled noble warriors and a history of being unafraid to get personally involved and put themselves in danger.
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Jul 23, 2021 02:28
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Aww, man. Villeneuve is going to make me care about these people. I'm really not ready for that.
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I wonder if the golden armor is also gonna be a reference to the golden lion throne
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Tree Bucket posted:Aww, man. Villeneuve is going to make me care about these people. I'm really not ready for that. The one that hit me hardest was Friend Jamis 
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Jul 23, 2021 02:38
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Hey Dune Vocalization Lady. I need some advice on operating a rocket powered sled. "CALL EVEL KNIEVEEEEEEEL!" That's good news, I will. And I'm thinking of going on OnlyFans for the first time later, any idea what I should expect? "ALL HORNY PEEEEEEEOPLE!"
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Jul 23, 2021 02:58
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No Mods No Masters posted:There is really not much reason I can see for an adaptation of the first half only to approach 3 hours. It's understandable to want maximum DUNC but good pacing is probably the most important thing or else it just becomes a hobbit nightmare The original was already a novel infamous for its length, density, and impenetrability, especially for science fiction and its era of publication. Even standard novels don't make smooth transitions straight to film, because they're so much longer and denser; a short story is much closer to a film's runtime. That's why the best novel adaptations into films do tons of excision, consolidation of characters, and abridgement. Long works like this tend to fit more comfortably into miniseries length; I believe Stephen King has usually favored miniseries adaptations of his novels for that reason (and some of his best adaptations into films were of his short stories), and supposedly so did Herbert for Dune. The Hobbit on the other hand was by far the shortest of the LOTR books. It's literally a children's story. Peter Jackson just stretched it out into three films because he wanted to recapture his success of adapting the main trilogy into a trilogy of films, or whatever.
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2:18-2:19 in the trailer looks like a lasgun being used on a harvester. The explosion between the two frigates being channeled by their shields at 2:05 is neat. Going to suck for all those infantry on the ground between them.
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Jul 23, 2021 04:12
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The other houses major hate the Baron because he's nouveau riche, not because he's a slaver/rapist. I can already hear people going "This one part of Dune reminds me of this other movie" and I'm going to have to stop myself from tearing into them.
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phasmid posted:I can already hear people going "This one part of Dune reminds me of this other movie" and I'm going to have to stop myself from tearing into them. Someone's going to write a troll article about how Dune rips off so much of Star Wars, just to see how many nerds' heads they can make explode.
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phasmid posted:I can already hear people going "This one part of Dune reminds me of this other movie" and I'm going to have to stop myself from tearing into them. don't stop yourself, gune, rip and tear
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Momoa’s quippy jokes are supposed to frame him as the guy who respects his lords but still treats them like real people. I assume it’s for pathos when he gets ganked but will probably have the bridging effect between paul and the fremen that he was supposed to have but frank didn’t know how to write it without it being trite. Honestly I expect Denis to lean into the class struggle aspect of it more than any other adaptations. I very rarely have this kind of trust and hype behind a project but god drat. I haven’t cared about a movie this much outside of like episode 1 or the lotr series.
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TK-42-1 posted:Momoa’s quippy jokes are supposed to frame him as the guy who respects his lords but still treats them like real people. I assume it’s for pathos when he gets ganked but will probably have the bridging effect between paul and the fremen that he was supposed to have but frank didn’t know how to write it without it being trite. Honestly I expect Denis to lean into the class struggle aspect of it more than any other adaptations. I very rarely have this kind of trust and hype behind a project but god drat. I haven’t cared about a movie this much outside of like episode 1 or the lotr series. Oh absolutely he will, and climate change stuff, too. Villanueve is pretty cunning, imo, and I totally echo your trust/hype Prolonged Priapism posted:The more that comes out the more confidence in this I have. They're actually adapting it to the screen, instead of the attempted literal translation (or transliteration) of the other versions. Completely loving yes to all of this. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Fuschia tude posted:Peter Jackson just stretched it out into three films because he wanted to recapture his success of adapting the main trilogy into a trilogy of films, or whatever. I think 3 films just allowed him to more efficiently dismantle the labor protections of the entire NZ film industry
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Spinz posted:I was going to do a parody thread and even did a bit of work but no way. Post your Content here this is the good dunc thread for good duncposting. We've been photoshopping different faces onto the god emperor for years now Prolonged Priapism posted:The only thing I'm not completely on board with is Helmet Paul - but I'm thinking that's got to be a vision. That shot of him is totally going to immediately cut into him waking up from a spice-mare in sietch. It's jihad Ingmar terdman fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Fuschia tude posted:The original was already a novel infamous for its length, density, and impenetrability, especially for science fiction and its era of publication. Even standard novels don't make smooth transitions straight to film, because they're so much longer and denser; a short story is much closer to a film's runtime. That's why the best novel adaptations into films do tons of excision, consolidation of characters, and abridgement. Long works like this tend to fit more comfortably into miniseries length; I believe Stephen King has usually favored miniseries adaptations of his novels for that reason (and some of his best adaptations into films were of his short stories), and supposedly so did Herbert for Dune. Tbf I think the hobbit would have been incredibly cramped in one movie, it's not long but a lot of stuff happens. Two would have been just right, and the names were right there
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40% of lotr is landscape descriptions, and 10% is lyric poetry E: the first book of dune is being done as two movies, insh'allah
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sebmojo posted:Tbf I think the hobbit would have been incredibly cramped in one movie, it's not long but a lot of stuff happens. Two would have been just right, and the names were right there
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TK-42-1 posted:I very rarely have this kind of trust and hype behind a project but god drat. I haven’t cared about a movie this much outside of like episode 1 or the lotr series. My dude, this was me and cyberpunk 2077 about this time last year 
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