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minema
May 31, 2011
I mentioned to my manager what was going on and asked if I could use some of my admin time this morning to go to boots and sort it and they've insisted I take the rest of the day off and rearranged all my patients for me even though it's really awkward for them :3:

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You already have your answer but in addition I would suggest that regardless of why you feel a certain way, if that way is undesirable for you and you have the capacity to change it then I don't really see an issue with doing so.

I have long thought that perpetual abject misery is the most rational response to the world but unaccountably most people, myself included, do not feel that way, so my conclusion is that we are not rational and that's ok, it probably doesn't help anything to feel like that even if it makes perfect sense to.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
the absolute perfect article header


(if for some reason you want to read it)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
If Jess Phillips is proposing to replace Jess Phillips with Marcus Rashford then I agree.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Hurrah! The Olympics finally starts tonight! Can't wait ..... not to watch them but an end I hope to those godawful Purple Bricks adverts with 'Alice the Estate Agent'.
I will never ever use Purple Bricks ever because of those tedious ads.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


"Marcus Rashford is better at politics than most of Labour" isn't a wrong take, Jess Phillips just mistakes which side of that line she's on.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


minema posted:

how do you distinguish mental health problems caused by realising we live in a hosed up society that's only going to get worse as climate change kicks in more and more from actual mental health problems caused by biochemistry

cant tell if my panic attacks are from my longstanding OCD and should up my SSRI dose or just a normal reaction to the world we live in

sorry for posting this poo poo I just don't know who else would understand

my meds got changed to a different brand this week and normally I'm aware of all of the above but can appreciate life as it is now but this week it's all I can think about and suicidal thoughts are creeping back in

it's the biochemistry. You don't have a unique relevation about the world no-one else has put the picture together to realize, it's just that your haywire biochemistry has hooked onto that thought process this time instead of more "normal" ones. Hope you get it sorted and your manager continues to be understanding.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
God I love this thread. We hate the fash, the libs and centrist melt cunts, and we support our comrades every time.

I hope reverting back to the old meds helps you, minema :)

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Nothingtoseehere posted:

it's the biochemistry. You don't have a unique relevation about the world no-one else has put the picture together to realize, it's just that your haywire biochemistry has hooked onto that thought process this time instead of more "normal" ones. Hope you get it sorted and your manager continues to be understanding.

Ehhh.

I do think that most people don't have a real grasp of just how bad climate change (for example) really is and is going to be.

I certainly think everyone has a vague sense of unease but it's diffuse (and/or blamed on blm cuck sjws or trans people or forrins). But that's not the same as the sheer naked horror of truly grokking the state we're in, I think.

Obviously having strong mental and emotional reserves is a big part of coping with the everyday realities of capitalism, racism, patriarchy, plague, and incoming climate apocalypse, but I'm intensely wary of purely internalising/medicalising emotional distress. Not least because it's pretty drat atomising and neoliberal.

It's not just defective brain meats.

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jul 23, 2021

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah, brainbad can exist on top of, mostly separately from, and/or be exacerbated by society.

Sometimes the social response is part of the bad, like the common feminist argument that the mass prescription of valium and barbiturates to women in the middle of the past century was just papering over the harms of patriarchy with chemistry, but it still may have helped many of those women as individuals if smashing of said patriarchy wasn't on the table.

minema
May 31, 2011
tbh if it's all going to poo poo at some point in my life, I would rather not spend the time remaining until then despairing and obsessing over what's going to happen. I try to live as much of a sustainable life as possible and donate to climate causes, so why not be in denial for a bit. The alternative is just ruining more of my life where I could be enjoying the moment.

And most of the time I do that and I'm aware I'm doing it and feel I've reached some sort of acceptance of everything, this week I've not been able to find that balance at all. Part of me is saying that's because you can't live in denial forever but on the other hand, humanity seems very talented at that so why not try!

Thanks for the support, everyone, I appreciate it!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Living is by definition in denial of death. You might as well get your money's worth of denial if you're going to do it.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Hurrah! The Olympics finally starts tonight! Can't wait ..... not to watch them but an end I hope to those godawful Purple Bricks adverts with 'Alice the Estate Agent'.
I will never ever use Purple Bricks ever because of those tedious ads.
Hellworld 2035 where journalists briefly write articles longing for the opening ceremony of the 2021 olympics, before being gulaged by Priti Patel's youth purity league.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Living is by definition in denial of death.
The crime iss life, the ssentence iss

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I always try to make it about what I can control. As my Nan says ‘what you can’t alter you have to learn to live with.’ Now, that’s not to say you shouldn’t try and do something about climate change and capitalism if you’re feeling up to it, but you have vastly more control (even if it often doesn’t feel like much control at all) over your own mind - it’s almost irrelevant to wonder which factor it is, because it’s both, but there’s only one you can change without a massive confluence of millions of social factors.

haakman
May 5, 2011
Yeeeah whilst not in relation to OP I'd be careful saying it's (MH that is) all just badbrain when it's patently obvious antidepressants/bIoTruThS are used to depoliticize and obfuscate what could be seen as a physiological response to social and material pressures of our current hellscape.

haakman fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jul 23, 2021

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

nm

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

ONS Population survey is out. Congratulation to the UK for probably hitting eight hundred thousand Covid cases last week and to the 1/70 of the population who contracted it in that one week period.

:science:

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


It's also worth bearing in mind that dangerous times, climate apocalypse, plague etc are hardly new features of existing, we just need to endure them like our ancestors did

Id still rather be staring down the barrel of climate collapse in 2021 than the ice age or black death

Were not even the first or second species to have annihilated the biosphere, it was just a matter of time before someone did it again

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Communist Thoughts posted:

Were not even the first or second species to have annihilated the biosphere, it was just a matter of time before someone did it again

I think we're the first ones to be fully aware and yet say 'hold my beer' as we merrily accelerate the process. :bang:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
S. cerevisiae to wild grass as they decompose it, releasing carbon dioxide:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Communist Thoughts posted:

It's also worth bearing in mind that dangerous times, climate apocalypse, plague etc are hardly new features of existing, we just need to endure them like our ancestors did

Id still rather be staring down the barrel of climate collapse in 2021 than the ice age or black death

Were not even the first or second species to have annihilated the biosphere, it was just a matter of time before someone did it again

And the next one will be gimped so hard that it mighn't get out of the stone age.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
What was that sf novel where humans worshipped an upside down cross and it turns out that it was actually an atom bomb and humans had blown themselves up centuries before? (It wasn't Planet of the Apes as far as I can remember!)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal


(I don't know, but it's a popular enough cold war trope that Wasteland 2 has a whole thing about monks who worship a titan missile.)

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Another person to fling into the sea:

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/stellacreasy/status/1418542131065597957

No one contacted her.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

fuctifino posted:

Another person to fling into the sea:


"I want to be treated like a gay Black woman" says straight white man who is well aware that he does not nor ever will be.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Wait, Stella Creasy's ambition and purpose is to advance socialism?

When did that happen?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
can we please stop posting the letters page of the Fash Gazette

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


kingturnip posted:

Wait, Stella Creasy's ambition and purpose is to advance socialism?

When did that happen?

Stella Creasy posted:

bile, which is our shared ambition and purpose
Easy mistake

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003


Ah, a good reason to use the downvote Twitter just rolled out

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.


Yeah but he said "Slimy prevarication" and talked about a widely disliked wing of the PLP so I can see why she thought he was.

IllusionistTrixie
Feb 6, 2003

I just recied this text from my doctors practice.

quote:

"Are you Unwell? Our practices and your local A&E are struggling with demand, please support us by considering self-management, talking to a pharmacist OR use 111 online or via the phone to help direct you to the best service, Help the NHS to help you. Thank you and keep well."


So, I think its going great with freedom day and clearly isn't causing any stresses on the NHS at all.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Woo, brought my second jab forward to the beginning of August - I could have got it from tomorrow at other sites, but those would involve public transport, and no way in hell am I getting a bus without a second jab marinating in my body for a couple of weeks first.

Gato
Feb 1, 2012

haakman posted:

Yeeeah whilst not in relation to OP I'd be careful saying it's (MH that is) all just badbrain when it's patently obvious antidepressants/bIoTruThS are used to depoliticize and obfuscate what could be seen as a physiological response to social and material pressures of our current hellscape.

for what it's worth I've yet to meet a psychiatrist who believes it's all down to brain chemistry alone, and that misery isn't to some extent a normal reaction to living in hell world.

'biopsychosocial' is the word that gets drummed in during psych training, but unfortunately our power to affect anything except the 'bio' part gets more limited by the year. The institutional reluctance to be 'political' doesn't help

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

CGI Stardust posted:

the absolute perfect article header


(if for some reason you want to read it)

Just before I went on holiday (hi I'm back by the way) I coined the phrase "Bad Place Derek" to describe Jessflips and it's genuinely the best thought I have had in my entire life.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLmun1JEIw0

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Julio Cruz posted:

can we please stop posting the letters page of the Fash Gazette

Prime examples should be highlighted and rightfully mocked.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

fuctifino posted:

Prime examples should be highlighted and rightfully mocked.

if everyone starts posting their favourite moronic letters to the editor/tweets/Facebook statuses just to dunk on them then it's going to overwhelm anything actually newsworthy ITT

especially when they're written by anonymous gammons from Bognor Regis or wherever the gently caress

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Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


fuctifino posted:

Prime examples should be highlighted and rightfully mocked.

It's not particularly new or interesting though, "I, the straight white man, am actually the most oppressed" has been a lazy right wing talking point for as long as I've been alive and I'm old.

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