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bartolimu posted:won't be sorry to see his brand of "I'm going to get increasingly violent and uncaring about whether I hurt you until I win" sumo gone. But enough about Hakuho 
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Lol I almost stayed up to watch the whole thing just to see what Hakuho did but now I’m glad I didn’t.
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Southpaugh posted:It matters to the grumpy old men and potentially to the populace as a whole. Weeds normalised throughout the west at this point, but MMA people are constantly in hot water about it despite legality in california for example. So its not surprising to me atleast that they would bring the hammer down, particularly if his sumo was despised and therefore not really someone you want to potentially become a yokozuna. Potentially is doing a lot of work in that sentence but you know what I mean. Yeah, while it’s fun to blame everything on the JSA, this is a society thing that has nothing to do with sumo or how well liked Takagenji is. Weed is bad and will probably get you fired from most jobs and if anything, Japan seems to be moving in the opposite direction of the west with criminalizing non-medicinal usage. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210612/p2a/00m/0li/018000c
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Southpaugh posted:It matters to the grumpy old men and potentially to the populace as a whole. Weeds normalised throughout the west at this point, but MMA people are constantly in hot water about it despite legality in california for example. So its not surprising to me atleast that they would bring the hammer down, particularly if his sumo was despised and therefore not really someone you want to potentially become a yokozuna. Potentially is doing a lot of work in that sentence but you know what I mean. Beeswax posted:But enough about Hakuho And the main reason I don't like him being ejected for weed of all things is I'm sure he's the tip of the iceberg. Just like Asanoyama being made an example of despite probably lots of wrestlers violating COVID protocols. The standard in sumo isn't "don't do this thing," it's "don't get caught." Do as I say, not as I do.
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i'm sure the rep he and his brother had didn't help but people in other sectors of japanese entertainment have had their careers ruined due to being caught with weed
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Also, the last dudes caught smoking up caused 4 guys to be kicked out and the grumpiest old man Kitanoumi, then chairman of the Sumo association to resign so drugs are a capital letter Big loving Deal that everyone involved in sumo should know the consequences of. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_sumo_cannabis_scandal
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Jeez, it's only cannabis. Not exactly loving smack.
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It's really illegal in Japan.  Weren't mushrooms only recently criminalized there though?E: If you get a drug charge and you're any kind of famous you get disappeared. There was one guy who got caught with cocaine who was a character in a game so they hired a new person and patched the offender out of the game.
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net work error posted:E: If you get a drug charge and you're any kind of famous you get disappeared. There was one guy who got caught with cocaine who was a character in a game so they hired a new person and patched the offender out of the game.
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Yeah, Japan has a really lovely drug policy for its citizens, and a prosecution system that only takes on cases they will win, so if you get a drug charge there you're hosed. Also what the gently caress no Hakuho in the opening ceremony? The Olympics suck.
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Jul 23, 2021 21:35
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Hakuho more like HakuNO
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The Organizing Comittee must be glad he can't elbow charge them.
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Martytoof posted:Hakuho more like HakuNO
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Jeez, it's only cannabis. Not exactly loving smack. Japan are really really strict on any mind-altering substances including legal ones elsewhere. Before I went a few years ago i had to jump through a lot of hoops to have paperwork to prove my SSRIs were for my own personal use and were not for addiction. https://livejapan.com/en/article-a0002471/
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Lid posted:Japan are really really strict on any mind-altering substances including legal ones elsewhere. Before I went a few years ago i had to jump through a lot of hoops to have paperwork to prove my SSRIs were for my own personal use and were not for addiction. I'm addicted to not hating my life sir. It's a burden.
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I adore how they dont discriminate between ssri's and recreational drugs. So you take them and it makes your brain work different? Well yeah, but- And it makes you feel good? Well, I mean, yeah, but- And if you stopped taking them abruptly you'd suffer? Yes, but- So you're addicted? YES, BUT-
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Lid posted:Japan are really really strict on any mind-altering substances including legal ones elsewhere. Before I went a few years ago i had to jump through a lot of hoops to have paperwork to prove my SSRIs were for my own personal use and were not for addiction. Shiiiiit I completely blanked on the fact that I'm now dealing with ADHD meds fo my next trip. Ugh.
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Martytoof posted:Shiiiiit I completely blanked on the fact that I'm now dealing with ADHD meds fo my next trip. Ugh. This should help https://www.associatedkyotoprogram.org/bringing-medications-japan/
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Oh hey I’m on Concerta so that’s less worrisome. Anyway, not sumo related but thank you nonetheless, I actually hadn’t considered that at ALL before my (hopefully but somehow looking more unlikely) travel in early 22.
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Woah, there's actual footage of Futabayama losing dropping his record win streak, I don't think I was aware of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC0SDPBwY9w
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https://tachiai.org/2021/07/26/terunofujis-tsuna-uchi-takes-place-today/ terunofuji's rope is being made today. article talks about the two distinct dohyo-iri styles of shiranui and unryu (which i was previously aware of) but also the difference in how the rope belt is woven for practitioners of the two styles which i was not at all. also the article mentions how both he and harumafuji are/were members of isegahama-beya and that the heya's oyakata used to be the yokuzana Asahifuji. i know there's a limit of one foreign rikishi per heya, did terunofuji switch over when harumafuji was forced to retire? didn't start following sumo until summer of 2018 and wiki doesn't explain the timeline and you can't tell on sumo db when heya jumps or mergers occured. edit: nevermind, it does quote:In September 2012, its wrestler Harumafuji won his second consecutive tournament and was promoted Yokozuna for the next basho. In March 2013, the stable absorbed the coach and wrestlers (Terunofuji, Wakaaoba and Shunba) of Magaki stable. Magaki was shut down due to the poor health of Magaki-oyakata.[2] Isegahama stable had four of its wrestlers ranked in the makuuchi and jūryō divisions in 2017, although Harumafuji retired in November 2017 and ōzeki Terunofuji fell to the lower divisions through injury in 2018 before staging a successful comeback, eventually reaching the rank of yokozuna in July 2021. was the limit waived because of the merger? Thauros fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Thauros posted:https://tachiai.org/2021/07/26/terunofujis-tsuna-uchi-takes-place-today/ http://oyakata.seisa.de/ This is a heya/oyakata changelog dating back to 2000, so lets take a look: Sumodb tells me that that Terunofuji entered Sumo in 2011 and was in Magaki before being in Isegahama, and Harumafuji entered Sumo in 2001 and was in Ajigawa before being in Isegahama. 2007 Nov 30 KC(Kabu changed) Ajigawa (former Asahifuji) changes to Isegahama. Ajigawa-beya is subsequently renamed into Isegahama-beya. So looks like Harumafuji was just in the same heya all along, but it changed names, here's the next couple events chronologically that seem relevant: 2007 Nov 30 KB(Kabu bought) Aminishiki acquires Ajigawa-kabu. 2007 Dec 07 KA(Kabu assumed) Kobo retires and becomes Ajigawa-oyakata (on loan). 2018 Jan 12 RO(Retiredment (other) ) Otowayama (former Kobo) retires at the age of 45 as Takanohana (Ichidai Toshiyori), who still controls the kabu, wants to give the kabu to former Daido. 2019 Jul 17 KA Aminishiki retires and becomes Ajigawa-oyakata. And as for Terunofuji: 2013 Mar 25 HS(Heya Shut-down) Magaki-beya shuts down. Magaki (former Wakanohana), all other personnel and all rikishi will be attached to Isegahama-beya from now on. So it looks like the Hanada family have their hands all over that whole situation. And yeah, the limit is for recruits. Interestingly enough, Hakuho now owns the Magaki Kabu. Brut fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Yeah, it's also why Aoiyama and Tochinoshin are both in Kasugano and we'll never see the matchup that you've probably never thought of, but will now never stop thinking about.
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Well now we just need Tochinoshin and Aoiyama tied for first after the final day to bring about this event that we need to happen.
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Beeswax posted:God drat IT
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Tochinoshin vs Aoiyama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wpXtYEQe4&t=140s
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Shiroc posted:Well now we just need Tochinoshin and Aoiyama tied for first after the final day to bring about this event that we need to happen. I would probably implode in pure happiness if Tochi managed a yoshi and immediately retired
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bessantj posted:Tochinoshin vs Aoiyama Aoiyama not sporting the massive moobs yet? Going for the belt immediately? WINNING a belt bout? Against TOCHINOSHIN? 
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main event of that 2012 january basho day just posted is the first ever meeting between hakuho and takayasu! it was fun to see a mixture of guys that are still hanging around, guys who have recently retired like goeido, kotoshogiku, and yoshikaze, guys like baruto and harumafuji i've heard about but never seen complete, and guys i've never heard of before. wish he had posted the ranks during the matchup graphics like he does now tho http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=201201&heya=-1&shusshin=-1 complete banzuke's fun to look through to see all of the names who had reached their career high level up to that point. was curious if the only guy who was undefeated in maezumo ended up having a sucessful career and it turned out to be daieisho Thauros fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Yeah, there's not many people in Maegashira there that are gone completely. There's a bunch of oyakata and a few are still kicking around in Makushita.
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anakha posted:Aoiyama not sporting the massive moobs yet? Going for the belt immediately? WINNING a belt bout? Against TOCHINOSHIN? Its like, yes, those are technically those two men fighting but also no, that is not Aoiyama or Tochinoshin.
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Thauros posted:main event of that 2012 january basho day just posted is the first ever meeting between hakuho and takayasu! it was fun to see a mixture of guys that are still hanging around, guys who have recently retired like goeido, kotoshogiku, and yoshikaze, guys like baruto and harumafuji i've heard about but never seen complete, and guys i've never heard of before. Man, I don't feel like I've been watching sumo that long, and it feels crazy that there are people in this thread who have never watched Harumafuji fight. It must be wild once you've been around long enough to recognize all the shipman from their wrestling days. Some day it's gonna be Goeido, Hakuho, Ikioi, Kotoshogiku, and Kisenosato out there loving up calls and driving everybody crazy.
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Shiroc posted:It'll probably be less funny to me when the shimpan have rikishi falling on them and messing up their little arrangements when I know who they actually are. Or I'll find it more funny. We'll see. after some of the bowling for shimpan that hakuho's done it'll be at least a little bit funny to see the tables turned
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Gyoji or shimpan get knocked into, everyone looks disheveled and the boy servants have to run out to restore everything, hilarious When the cool old spectators have rikishi fall on them, it almost universally looks like the best day in their sumo fan lives, heartwarming
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Shiroc posted:When the cool old spectators have rikishi fall on them, it almost universally looks like the best day in their sumo fan lives, heartwarming In 80s/90s puroresu clips, Stan Hansen would literally beat with a bullrope any members of the audience that got in his way while he was making his way to the ring, and those people would be delighted at being able to interact with him, even in that fashion. It's definitely a thing in Japan.
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Shiroc posted:Gyoji or shimpan get knocked into, everyone looks disheveled and the boy servants have to run out to restore everything, hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lw8_AKZW6I
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whats for dinner posted:there was a bout some time in the last two basho where takayasu bowled over some middle-aged looking dude who he helped back up and pat on the back and the guy looked like he was on cloud nine In all fairness, I wouldn't be surprised if someone in this thread has a deviant art account that is solely being crushed by AOIYAMA foreverially and loving it.
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