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Apollodorus posted:TBH I think he’s right about Alien. I believe we will have to agree to disagree
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Jul 23, 2021 00:57
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I think that point of contention bends heavily on exactly how much stock you put into events surrounding Prometheus and the other prequel that shall not be named. If Ridley Scott ever finishes his Crayola script and macaroni-picture storyboard for the third prequel and mails it out of the nursing home, we'll likely get a much stronger answer to "just how much did the Company know about what kind of heebie-jeebies there are out there in the void?" Personally I like the other explanation though, that the Company just had some very callous attitudes towards crew value in the face of coming across anything potentially valuable, and reflected that in their ships' and androids' latent programming.
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Jul 23, 2021 00:59
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I'm never not thinking about Aliens.
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Jul 23, 2021 01:33
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Mister Speaker posted:Personally I like the other explanation though, that the Company just had some very callous attitudes towards crew value in the face of coming across anything potentially valuable, and reflected that in their ships' and androids' latent programming. Yeah, WY is a huge transplanetary Halliburton and it stands to (nerdy, fake) reason that in a long-planned shipping route a probe or lesser vessel may have previously come across the Derelict's GTFO message and somebody planetside raised a flag because it sounded familiar and was from suspect territory. MUTHR probably has a zillion hidden special orders for lots of contingencies, so they just install a new Science Officer with generic programming on the next ship using that route to be sure any new Science is Officered. MUTHR is the brains, Ash is the hands. If nothing happens on the trip nobody ever knows. If something does happen, it's covered up by layers of other carried-out special orders. Bing bong.
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Jul 23, 2021 02:35
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Iron Crowned posted:
Well that’s probably a good thing since she would have been wrong. its alien duh
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Jul 23, 2021 06:13
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I watch a lot of tabletop gaming/miniature painting channels on YT and I've recently been seeing some of them put out vids for both the Alien RPG and the Aliens miniature game. I'd like to get both but I don't know if anyone I game with would want to play the RPG as they're mostly the typical D&D players and not big into sci-fi survival horror. I might still grab the RPG though, the sourcebook looks to be really high quality in terms of both design and production. The Alien RPG is fantastic and a ton of fun. Aside from the rules being solid, the scenarios they’ve published are absolutely bananas in the best ways. Just an incredible rollcoaster ride of surprises, betrayals, and white knuckle moments. There is also a very active community on Facebook/discord that runs a lot of virtual games so even if your regular group isn’t interested you can still get some games in.
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Jul 23, 2021 16:55
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Class Warcraft posted:The Alien RPG is fantastic and a ton of fun. Aside from the rules being solid, the scenarios they’ve published are absolutely bananas in the best ways. Just an incredible rollcoaster ride of surprises, betrayals, and white knuckle moments. There is also a very active community on Facebook/discord that runs a lot of virtual games so even if your regular group isn’t interested you can still get some games in. Sounds hella fun.
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Jul 23, 2021 17:43
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm never not thinking about Aliens. 
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I was not thinking about aliens (the movie) but then I clicked on my bookmarks page and welp. If xenomorphs could speak English, what do you all think they would sound like? Based on the shape of the mouth, I think they would have a thick prairie accent, kind of like boomhauer from king of the hill.
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Jul 23, 2021 20:55
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Classic 80s valley girls. 'Like, Becky just like GRABBED the Colonial Marine I had been like STALKING for like HOURS, and then just like TORE it in half instead of like COCOONING it... What a BITCH.'
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Jul 23, 2021 21:27
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Prof. Crocodile posted:I was not thinking about aliens (the movie) but then I clicked on my bookmarks page and welp. If xenomorphs could speak English, what do you all think they would sound like? Do they talk with their big mouth or their small mouth? Also, given their clenched teeth, they talk like they've got coke jaw all the time.
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Jul 23, 2021 21:37
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Young Freud posted:Do they talk with their big mouth or their small mouth? This is exactly the line of thinking I went down. The clenched jaw and lack of lip movement in the big mouth would make them very mumbly, like boomhauer. But I am interested to hear differing opinions as well.
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Jul 23, 2021 21:39
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Prof. Crocodile posted:This is exactly the line of thinking I went down. The clenched jaw and lack of lip movement in the big mouth would make them very mumbly, like boomhauer. I tell you what man ah was followin' that danged ol' colonist for like 2 hours man, dude was like I'm... gonna go do some colonist junk man and danged if he didn't go round this ol' chicks place and they was like boodleloodleooo and man you should have seen their faces when I just went round them airducts and popped out from under than danged ol' bed they was in like boo and he was like I told you don't be coming 'round here no more you danged ol' zeenoh and I just grabbed 'em both and brought 'em down here 'n cahcooned 'em right up so they could get... danged ol'... facehuggered..., cause boy I don't take no lip from no drat colonist coming here, putting atmospheere reactors all over the drat place, and now he prolly got a danged ol' ovipositor down his throat I tell you hwat. Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Jul 23, 2021 22:42
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Jay_Zombie posted:I tell you what man ah was followin' that danged ol' colonist for like 2 hours man, dude was like I'm... gonna go do some colonist junk man and danged if he didn't go round this ol' chicks place and they was like boodleloodleooo and man you should have seen their faces when I just went round them airducts and popped out from under than danged ol' bed they was in like boo and he was like I told you don't be coming 'round here no more you danged ol' zeenoh and I just grabbed 'em both and brought 'em down here 'n cahcooned 'em right up so they could get... danged ol'... facehuggered..., cause boy I don't take no lip from no drat colonist coming here, putting atmospheere reactors all over the drat place, and now he prolly got a danged ol' ovipositor down his throat I tell you hwat. Too long for a thread title but well done
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Prof. Crocodile posted:I was not thinking about aliens (the movie) but then I clicked on my bookmarks page and welp. If xenomorphs could speak English, what do you all think they would sound like? Cobra Commander. Young Freud posted:Do they talk with their big mouth or their small mouth? Both. The small one is a higher pitched Cobra Commander.
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Jul 23, 2021 23:50
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Both. The small one is a higher pitched Cobra Commander. 
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BiggerBoat posted:Too long for a thread title but well done Thinkin' bout thos Aliens: You need a danged ol' facehuggerin'
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Cobra Commander. Nailed it. I was going to say Starscream, and I didn't even know until thinking about it just now that they're the same voice.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Cobra Commander. And they argue with each other.
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Jul 24, 2021 20:41
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Do you guys think if it weren't for that egg opening, Ripley would've honored her unspoken truce with the alien queen? Or was she going to double cross the queen anyway
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Jul 25, 2021 15:13
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Eh, she might have blown everything up anyway. It's the only way to be sure.
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Jul 25, 2021 15:51
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Do you guys think if it weren't for that egg opening, Ripley would've honored her unspoken truce with the alien queen? Or was she going to double cross the queen anyway
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Jul 25, 2021 16:11
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They could have chased her the moment she got away from the eggs though.
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Jul 25, 2021 16:20
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Yeah there were at least 2 xenomorphs nearby. Hard to imagine they would've just let her saunter out...the truce was likely destined to fail anyway. Still a really cool little moment in the film.
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Jul 25, 2021 16:40
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Yeah it's a big moment of gently caress this poo poo catharsis for Ripley. The flamethrower probably would have been enough but then she just sprays her rifle across the egg chamber.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Yeah there were at least 2 xenomorphs nearby. Hard to imagine they would've just let her saunter out...the truce was likely destined to fail anyway. Still a really cool little moment in the film. They're were probably just those two. They could only impregnate up to 157 colonists (less any killed, only James Cameron knows how many xenos died in the colonists' last stand, the Marines' initial probe, charging the two sentry gun pairs' chokepoints, and the final assault on the Operations room. They're could only be a handful of xenos left before Ripley enters the hive.
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Young Freud posted:They're were probably just those two. They could only impregnate up to 157 colonists (less any killed, only James Cameron knows how many xenos died in the colonists' last stand, the Marines' initial probe, charging the two sentry gun pairs' chokepoints, and the final assault on the Operations room. They're could only be a handful of xenos left before Ripley enters the hive. Theoretically there could have been farm animals and dog sized+ pets to impregnate, since colonists brought pets and didn’t a couple of marines get taken as well? I always figured those two Xenos were the Queen’s guard, but thinking on it, she probably didn’t need them at that point. E: Even more theoretically, the Engineer’s Xeno could have been around somewhere. tight aspirations fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Young Freud posted:They're were probably just those two. They could only impregnate up to 157 colonists (less any killed, only James Cameron knows how many xenos died in the colonists' last stand, the Marines' initial probe, charging the two sentry gun pairs' chokepoints, and the final assault on the Operations room. They're could only be a handful of xenos left before Ripley enters the hive.
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Reusable in what sense?
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Jay_Zombie posted:I tell you what man ah was followin' that danged ol' colonist for like 2 hours man, dude was like I'm... gonna go do some colonist junk man and danged if he didn't go round this ol' chicks place and they was like boodleloodleooo and man you should have seen their faces when I just went round them airducts and popped out from under than danged ol' bed they was in like boo and he was like I told you don't be coming 'round here no more you danged ol' zeenoh and I just grabbed 'em both and brought 'em down here 'n cahcooned 'em right up so they could get... danged ol'... facehuggered..., cause boy I don't take no lip from no drat colonist coming here, putting atmospheere reactors all over the drat place, and now he prolly got a danged ol' ovipositor down his throat I tell you hwat. This is art.
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zenguitarman posted:Yeah it's a big moment of gently caress this poo poo catharsis for Ripley. The flamethrower probably would have been enough but then she just sprays her rifle across the egg chamber. Catharsis is right. Remember that Ripley also fired a few grenades right into, what was essentially, the Queen's babymaker. Seems like it was kind of payback for the Xenomorphs essentially robbing her of her own daughter, and then trying to rob her of her new "adopted" daughter. Sort of like, "I'll teach you to mess with my kids by destroying yours, and your ability to have more." There is almost a brief instant of mutual acknowledgement that both Ripely and the Queen are in a no win situation and that they will mutually gently caress each other's poo poo up. If the Queen lets her Xeno's attack Ripley will burn her eggs, and probably her before she goes down (and probably the grenades will go off too, but that's speculative) and Ripley knows that if she outright just burns the eggs, she's going to immediately get jumped. So she demonstrates in a "look what I can do to your babies, you don't want that, do you?" So, the Queen orders her Xeno's to hold back, but not outright retreat. The Queen isn't totally stupid, she's working for the survival of her hive, but I highly doubt that once Ripley is clear of the eggs, that the Queen will let her waltz right out of there. I don't know how the eggs are triggered to open. Whether the hugger inside somehow senses that a potential host is near and opens deliberately, or if it's a reflex based on the fact that the egg is of the correct maturity and there's something nearby, or of it's just random dumb luck that an egg opened at that particular moment. But at that point, it doesn't matter. It could be the equivalent of the accidental shot that triggers a massacre, but the results are the same. Ripley was not going to let that one sneak by. Then we get this instant right here. This perfect little "Really?" glare and head tilt right before she just lays waste to everything in sight.  That's one of my favorite parts. Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Xenomrph posted:Reusable in what sense?
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PhotoKirk posted:This is art. Thankums.
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I LOVE the head tilt. Splicer posted:You get facehuggered, chest bursted bursts out, you don't quite die yet and you get another facehugger You definitely die.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:You definitely die.
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Interesting that if Ripley'd have left the eggs alone, the queen probably wouldn't have chased and managed to sneak an egg aboard the dropship, leading to Newt's death and the infestation at Fiorino. Little nod at MAD I guess.
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tight aspirations posted:E: Even more theoretically, the Engineer’s Xeno could have been around somewhere. Oh no it would have been loooong dead by then. What would it have eaten? Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Jul 26, 2021 18:53
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Apollodorus posted:Oh no it would have been loooong dead by then. What would it have eaten? The eggs were alive and well, just saying.
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tight aspirations posted:The eggs were alive and well, just saying. I kind of figured that the layer of light above the eggs that Kane comments on reacting to him when he broke it was part of a preservation system that kept the eggs fresh for the trip, and had remained functioning even after the crash. Of course, who knows how long the alien lifecycle even is - the vacuum of space doesn't bother them so maybe they don't even die of old age!
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