(Thread IKs:
ZShakespeare)
|
BC is probably going to be ok as we have a really good vaccine uptake and eventually it's gonna burn through all the idiot anti-vaxxers, I dunno if AB Vax numbers are as good I got to scream at an anti vax parade today, that was carthatic.
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 00:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:59 |
|
|
Looking forward to the Pallister government again not learning from what's happening in other provinces. I fully expect a repeal of the mask mandate within the next couple of weeks.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 00:10
|
|
|
Smallbusinesses.txt [  At last the comments is everyone clowning on them
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 00:16
|
|
|
There's a labour shortage because swaths of workers have switched to only fans and are making more than they ever imagined
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 00:32
|
|
|
Capital Letdown posted:In terms of sending money, here are a few different things off the top of my head, which may or may not sit right with anyone based on their politics: Thank you for the long posts! Made a donation to one of the groups you listed today. Keep up the good fight!
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 02:11
|
|
|
Alctel posted:Smallbusinesses.txt Oh no, won't someone think about the owners who need to work occasionally. Like, how did they think "or having to close more they want to" would elicit sympathy? Oh sure, closing shift sucks, but yeah, maybe the person making the most money should be doing that sort of thing?
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 02:26
|
|
|
Oxyclean posted:Like, how did they think "or having to close more they want to" would elicit sympathy? Oh sure, closing shift sucks, but yeah, maybe the person making the most money should be doing that sort of thing?
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 02:37
|
|
|
Normy posted:There's a labour shortage because swaths of workers have switched to only fans and are making more than they ever imagined people pay me to keep my clothes on
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 02:53
|
|
|
Peaceful Anarchy posted:I took that as "not be open because we have no workers (because we pay poo poo)." Oh, yeah, that'd make more sense. Coming right after a phrase of working 7 days a week it sounded more like a shift thing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 04:45
|
|
|
Alctel posted:Smallbusinesses.txt Oh for fucks sake, I used to like JQ. Good to know never to go there again. Of course the person backpedal’d and everyone is rightfully telling them to pound sand.   ChickenDoodle fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 25, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 05:13
|
|
|
Even in our turbofucked housing market you need to show how you'll cover a nontrivial increase in your mortgage's interest rate, but apparently the typical small business owner expects to get away with flat wage growth for eternity?
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 06:03
|
|
|
why don't the "owners" simply quit if they can get more money going on ei like the rest of the slaves
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 07:16
|
|
|
Because they get more money through CEWS and CERS than they would ever get on ei lol.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 15:06
|
|
|
Every time these small businesses whine, can we please point out that they recieved more government welfare than anyone they're complaining about
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 15:07
|
|
|
Normy posted:Is this really pointing a finger or just stating the facts? I take your point. It just seems really ridiculous to say "these things that we've said are okay are the things that are causing transmission, but they are still okay." Alctel posted:BC is probably going to be ok as we have a really good vaccine uptake and eventually it's gonna burn through all the idiot anti-vaxxers, I dunno if AB Vax numbers are as good Hopefully, but kids still present a significant pool for spread and mutation, and delta is *really* not good. https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1418994360461381633?s=20 This latest tidbit from Bonnie is also not great. The least transparent province is at least transparent about becoming even less transparent. https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1418992723797757955?s=20
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 19:22
|
|
|
RBC posted:Every time these small businesses whine, can we please point out that they recieved more government welfare than anyone they're complaining about
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 19:28
|
|
|
I really don't have sympathy for all the horror stories about people moving into different job sectors. Whether it's articles complaining about restaurant, office or nursing shortages, they all share the same alarm about people movie to other sectors and how hosed that leaves them but nobody ever seems to want to talk about the reasons why people are changing careers. You'll never see an article talking about the shortcomings of working in these positions and the arguments always boil down to "people lazy and government gave them too much cash." Nobody wants to look at improving their workplaces for employees, they want to go back to the broken status quo and blame others. So gently caress em.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 21:23
|
|
|
Goosed it. posted:I take your point. It just seems really ridiculous to say "these things that we've said are okay are the things that are causing transmission, but they are still okay." We are 100% moving into the phase of the pandemic where transmission is seen as somewhat okay, as long as hospitalization and ICU numbers don't spike. Whether it's a good idea to do that while the vaccination campaign is still underway and no vaccine is available for kids under 12 remains to be seen (the answer is "probably not lol")
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2021 23:17
|
|
|
Geez I don’t think people are happy about these signs… 
ChickenDoodle fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jul 26, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 00:10
|
|
|
prom candy posted:We are 100% moving into the phase of the pandemic where transmission is seen as somewhat okay, as long as hospitalization and ICU numbers don't spike. Whether it's a good idea to do that while the vaccination campaign is still underway and no vaccine is available for kids under 12 remains to be seen (the answer is "probably not lol") Have there been other phases of the pandemic? I thought that has been the (pathetic) goal since about five minutes after covid arrived on the continent.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 00:11
|
|
|
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/polls-conservative-support-crumbling-in-western-canada/vi-AAMwnaK?ocid=st New Ipsos poll has the O'Toole at 36% support in Alberta.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 01:07
|
|
|
SoggyBobcat posted:https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/polls-conservative-support-crumbling-in-western-canada/vi-AAMwnaK?ocid=st Georgia went blue last year, what's the odds on Orange Alberta? The NDP's literally within 5% of sending O'Toole to O'blivion at this rate.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 02:05
|
|
|
But The Sun says he’s a strong contender!
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 02:24
|
|
|
Mr. Apollo posted:But The Sun says he’s a strong contender! Did they say what he was in contention for?
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 02:50
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:Georgia went blue last year, what's the odds on Orange Alberta? The NDP's literally within 5% of sending O'Toole to O'blivion at this rate. Without another right wing party to split with, probably zero. The ANDP are deeply right wing as far as the NDP goes, it seems unlikely that support would translate to the FNDP at a 1:1 rate.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 02:54
|
|
Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
|
PittTheElder posted:Without another right wing party to split with, probably zero. The ANDP are deeply right wing as far as the NDP goes, it seems unlikely that support would translate to the FNDP at a 1:1 rate. Rachel Notley also seems to have a better political sense than Singh. Maybe it's just because I'm relatively more exposed to the ANDP, but they seem to have an uncanny way of keeping their focus on the things people are pissed off about, whereas the federal NDP just... doesn't. Granted the UCP does make that easy because there's a great deal more to be pissed off about.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 03:00
|
|
|
Goosed it. posted:
I was in the Okanagan last weekend and I can confirm that almost no one was wearing masks anywhere at all. Welp.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 03:29
|
|
|
PT6A posted:Rachel Notley also seems to have a better political sense than Singh. Maybe it's just because I'm relatively more exposed to the ANDP, but they seem to have an uncanny way of keeping their focus on the things people are pissed off about, whereas the federal NDP just... doesn't. Granted the UCP does make that easy because there's a great deal more to be pissed off about. Yeah the UCP just keeps running into rakes
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 03:31
|
|
|
Alctel posted:Yeah the UCP just keeps running into rakes Yeah, to be fair anyone should be able to mount a pretty decent challenge against a party that's, after a worldwide pandemic, saying "people hate nurses and healthcare, right? Let's run with that!"
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 03:40
|
|
|
infernal machines posted:Did they say what he was in contention for?  Fair question.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 04:14
|
|
|
pokeyman posted:Have there been other phases of the pandemic? I thought that has been the (pathetic) goal since about five minutes after covid arrived on the continent. Yeah good point, but it's actually maybe achievable now that we have vaccines? I remember last fall when cases were climbing and people were going "yeah but the hospitalizations are low" as if cases weren't a leading indicator. Cases are obviously still gonna be a leading indicator but the ratio of cases to hospitalizations is hopefully gonna be a lot more manageable. Definitely groups that can't get vaccinated are on their own here though, I don't even know what they're supposed to do.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 05:08
|
|
|
prom candy posted:Definitely groups that can't get vaccinated are on their own here though, I don't even know what they're supposed to do. This is the hosed up part, though I guess they can join the growing masses of people shut out of whole parts of society because we're cheap.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 05:21
|
|
|
prom candy posted:Definitely groups that can't get vaccinated are on their own here though, I don't even know what they're supposed to do. Die for capital, just like the rest of us, eventually.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 05:34
|
|
|
Money alone can't make up for the harms done by lockdowns and restrictions. We had the chance to do things properly, and we decided not to. Until the government forces everyone medically able to receive a vaccine, to receive it, I'm not putting my life on hold for another year or however long it takes to reach COVID zero. I did my part, I did more than anyone asked, and I'm not sacrificing my career and social life and mental health any more until the government shows a willingness to do the hard poo poo on their end too. I've been on the side of lockdowns and restrictions and pursuing COVID zero throughout this whole thing, but... there has to be a limit, this can't go on indefinitely.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 05:47
|
|
|
prom candy posted:Yeah good point, but it's actually maybe achievable now that we have vaccines? I remember last fall when cases were climbing and people were going "yeah but the hospitalizations are low" as if cases weren't a leading indicator. Cases are obviously still gonna be a leading indicator but the ratio of cases to hospitalizations is hopefully gonna be a lot more manageable. The thing that's really frustrating is that BC, partly through luck, was really close to getting to basically no cases in the province but refused to put in place to same measures that other provinces did. Last June/July BC had single digit to low teens cases for several weeks. There was a chance but the BC government said no and continues to say no by having a totally garbage testing protocol (no asymptomatic testing) and by leading the way in refusing to implement and the dropping restrictions.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 06:49
|
|
|
Goosed it. posted:The thing that's really frustrating is that BC, partly through luck, was really close to getting to basically no cases in the province but refused to put in place to same measures that other provinces did. Other provinces dropped that ball in a big way too. In Manitoba last summer we had a few days of zero new cases and the Conservatives furiously patted each other on the backs, announced schools re-opening, and even posted billboards saying "RESTART MANITOBA!", all just a few weeks away from the second wave that completely hosed the province. How it started:  How it ended: 
InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 26, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 15:30
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:Georgia went blue last year, what's the odds on Orange Alberta? The NDP's literally within 5% of sending O'Toole to O'blivion at this rate.  Provincially, there's not the same issue - the Alberta Liberal Party finally collapsed in 2015 and that's the biggest factor in allowing the ANDP to take power. They are now positioning themselves as a big-tent centre-left party and have a lead in the polls, especially as the UCP continues to track far to the right. That plays well in rural AB but not that well in the cities - Alberta isn't as much of a monolith as the federal results would show. You need two of Edmonton, Calgary, and the rural seats to win a majority in the Alberta Legislature; the ANDP has YEG on lock and is making a solid push in YYC. I think they have a good shot, especially given how badly Kenney has hosed up everything, but two years is an eternity in politics.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 16:46
|
|
|
PT6A posted:Money alone can't make up for the harms done by lockdowns and restrictions. We had the chance to do things properly, and we decided not to. Until the government forces everyone medically able to receive a vaccine, to receive it, I'm not putting my life on hold for another year or however long it takes to reach COVID zero. I did my part, I did more than anyone asked, and I'm not sacrificing my career and social life and mental health any more until the government shows a willingness to do the hard poo poo on their end too. This is pretty much where I'm at too. I'm basically just following the federal guidelines for fully vaccinated people. Given that we're opening the border with the USA I think it's clear that COVID zero is not on anyone's agenda and really never was. Me living like it is isn't going to change a drat thing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 17:03
|
|
|
InfiniteZero posted:Other provinces dropped that ball in a big way too. In Manitoba last summer we had a few days of zero new cases and the Conservatives furiously patted each other on the backs, announced schools re-opening, and even posted billboards saying "RESTART MANITOBA!", all just a few weeks away from the second wave that completely hosed the province. For me BC feels worse partly because I live here but also because: 1) NDP government that you would hope would have seized this moment to improve class sizes etc. and would be interested in protecting workers. 2) Dropping the ball on really easy things like masks and testing. BC was the last province to implement a mask mandate and the first to lift it. The mandate wasn't implemented by the PHO or the Ministry of Health. It was put in place by the Minister of Public Safety after pressure from the retail lobby. Schools didn't have masks until the end of March, and even then grades 3 and below were exempted. Testing - BC had much more restrictive testing criteria than other provinces. Testing criteria that modelling from BC researchers showed in December are not sufficient to slow the spread of covid. We don't test asymptomatic exposed individuals. There were symptom requirements (e.g. 2 symptoms for 24 hours or more) that were more restrictive than other provinces and which disproportionately impact kids who are more likely to have mild, short duration, or no symptoms. I know Pallister is terrible but has Manitoba hosed-up the basics, like masks, so willfully? Goosed it. fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jul 26, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 17:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:59 |
|
|
Goosed it. posted:For me BC feels worse partly because I live here but also because: I get really frustrated with the praise of DBH here, because it's so flatly undeserved. Maybe it's just a product of where I grew up (far, far away from here), but if you have a problem to solve it's always worth overdoing it. Run up the score and all that jazz. I mean, the public messaging was missing 1.2 million non-English/French speakers until the day before Diwali last year. You can't just underserve over a fifth of your population and hope for the best. GonadTheBallbarian fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 26, 2021 |
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2021 17:34
|
|
