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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
it gets real petty when you see people refer to the PRC as "West Taiwan" and they think they're being hilarious

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

LimburgLimbo posted:

In this case it's because Taiwan was ordered as "Taiwan" in the ceremony.

The order of countries is done in the alphabetic/syllabic order of the host country, which in the case of Japan is the Gojūon.

Taiwan was placed in that order as if they were "Taiwan" instead of "Chinese Taipei", i.e. they were placed between South Korea and Tajikistan:

South Korea - 韓民国 "Daikanminkoku" > Taiwan/Chinese Taipei - 湾 "Taiwan" > Taijikistan - ジキスタン "Tajikisutan"

If they were Chinese Taipei (チャイニーズ・タイペイ "Chainiizu Taipei") they'd be in a different spot.

So it's a subtle way of calling them Taiwan instead of Chinese Taipei without doing it too openly... maybe. The NHK announcers also referred to them as Taiwan.

Is South Africa under A or S?

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Ardennes posted:

Is South Africa under A or S?

M

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
https://youtu.be/M6G_pjtz8cc

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

ToxicAcne posted:

Yeah Im from Canada but from a very brown Suburb of Toronto so I can speak/understand Urdu and Punjabi pretty well and manage to keep in touch with the politics back there. It's crazy how much the diaspora backs the PTI though. Imran Khan is basically a populist but only in regards to the upper middle class if that makes sense.

brampton?

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
Mississauga but very close to Brampton.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
https://twitter.com/Xi_Fan/status/1419120991486156800

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
imran khan seems a bit if like if rahul gandhi had the backing of the military. i guess its not analogous because the hindu bourgeoisie is fully on board the modi fascism train, whereas the pakistani middle class likes imran?

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3141404/peking-university-joins-chinas-semiconductor-push-new-school

China’s prestigious Peking University has set up a semiconductor school to train chip engineers and technicians, joining a nationwide frenzy to create new chip colleges as part of Beijing’s drive to boost semiconductor self-sufficiency.

The School of Integrated Circuits at Peking University was inaugurated on Thursday in Beijing, only one day after Huazhong University of Science and Technology (HUST) unveiled a specialist semiconductor college in Wuhan. HUST has produced some of the country’s top technology students, grabbing nationwide attention this year after six of its top graduates received offers from Huawei Technologies Co with annual packages as big as 2 million yuan (US$309,000).

There were around 512,000 people working in China’s semiconductor industry at the end of 2019, compared with projected demand for a workforce of 745,000 by 2022, according to a recent white paper from the China Centre for Information Industry Development.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/drthomasisaac/status/1419137359526825984

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014

mila kunis posted:

imran khan seems a bit if like if rahul gandhi had the backing of the military. i guess its not analogous because the hindu bourgeoisie is fully on board the modi fascism train, whereas the pakistani middle class likes imran?

Ya that's his base. I feel like he's more crass than Rahul and he has a sort of Islamist bent as well. The Pakistani Left seems to think he's analogous to Trump but that's not correct I feel.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/mr_scientism/status/1419012936178282501?s=20

gen z more like gen xi.

i can see the NYT headlines already: how president xi's attempt to appeal to future generations may rob them of their distinctive advantages in the global market

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/mr_scientism/status/1419012936178282501?s=20

gen z more like gen xi.

i can see the NYT headlines already: how president xi's attempt to appeal to future generations may rob them of their distinctive advantages in the global market

There's already been some coverage of this by the western media. As you would expect, forcing Chinese education companies to go non-profit has the capitalist press screaming bloody murder

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


"don't assign a bunch of homework; do things in the classroom" has been American pedagogy for at least a decade

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

brugroffil posted:

"don't assign a bunch of homework; do things in the classroom" has been American pedagogy for at least a decade

true but the US has also been trying to privatize everything with charter schools for about the same time

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


This monstrous nation

https://twitter.com/Techmeme/status/1419614937324736515

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


Chairman Xi, my nation yearns for freedom.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
this is from last october about "stakeholder capitalism" but i only recently watched it. check it out though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYjsFRFjFqM&t=506s

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/ChinaTeacher1/status/1419486475259760642?s=20

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

im like 15% of the way through tom clancy masterpiece the bear and the dragon, and falun gong has been mentioned like... at least five or six times, described as "not really a religion", "barely a religion as a westerner would understand it", and a mild "spiritual belief system" that the CCP nevertheless persecutes cruelly because, as communists, they are jealous of all other belief systems. as part of this unjust and cruel repression, their organs were harvested. book also has lots of "they don't value life like we do" including at least one (possibly several) mentions of how one child policy violators are allowed/made to carry their children to term, and then the doctor stabs the baby head with a chloroform syringe as it crowns.

this will actually become a plot point later on, with a policeman killing the papal nuncio live on CNN as the the nuncio is trying to prevent another baby from getting chloroformed, if i remember correctly

the book rocks is what im saying.

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Goddamn china loving rules. The west has been letting Uber and Airbnb and all the gig apps gently caress up society and pretending not to see the easy solution (giving the workers rights). These guys are essential to china, especially after covid. I'm so glad that the govt is fighting for them. They deserve so much better.

China's been so cool lately cracking down on these big companies. Really starting to feel that they're providing a positive alternative to the great Satan america. Obviously china isn't prefect but I'm so glad I love here and not back in the us.

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

there was a slew of articles about the alienation of urban/white collar workers in China, and young people feeling more and more isolated a few months ago. I took it with a few grains of salt but I am not dismissive that something like is happening since that seems pretty natural as the economy and modes of production develop. can anyone lend any reality check on that? I am very interested in how China might address that issue since we all know it's a huge problem in US (and many other countries, but the US is the most atomized)

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021



did someone post this yet

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

lobster shirt posted:



did someone post this yet

China Grande (SSS+)

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
president abe... welcome to the revolution

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/adam-toozes-chartbook-28-china-in

One of the most intriguing things I read whilst researching the piece, was the World Bank’s report on China’s Socialist Economic Development from 1983. What is so fascinating is that this was the first time that the World Bank had the chance to do an in-depth analysis of China’s development under Communism. The report asks all the questions one might be tempted to ask at that point. Where was China at after the end of Maoism? What distinguished it from other low-income Asian giants like India or Pakistan or Indonesia.

[...]

In the early 1950s, Communist China and India at independence were in a broadly similar place. Both were barely above subsistence. India’s per capita GDP was slightly ahead, as was its level of industrialization.

[...]

If the starting point in the early 1950s, was one of poverty and underdevelopment. Three decades later, what kind of society had the Communist regime made?

[...]

Strikingly, though income had doubled relative to 1950 and though population had practically doubled too, China had not urbanized. In 1949 the city and town population had accounted for 10.6% of the population. The urban share peaked at 15.4% in 1957. After that the share declined to 12 and 13 percent in the 1970s. That compared to more than 20 percent in India. The low urban share was all the more striking because in terms of the weight of its economy, China was considerably more industrialized than its low income peers.

China had industrialized without urbanizing. This is confirmed by other material indicators such as China’s electricity consumption, which surged.

In terms of per capita energy consumption, by the 1970s China was already well ahead of other low-income countries. In 1979, per capita its energy consumption in China was three times that India. China had a huge coal industry. It was also, it is all too easily forgotten, a major producer and exporter of oil.

[...]

Industrializing without urbanizing was remarkable, but it was not the unevenness of China’s development that most impressed the World Bank investigators. What struck them was that the Communist regime had laid the foundations for growth by delivering basic services to its population.


"China's most remarkable achievement during the past three decades", the Bank remarked, was to have made "low-income groups far better off in terms of basic needs than their counterparts in most other poor countries". As a result, the most basic indicator of human well-being, life expectancy had surged in China from 36 in 1950 to 64 in 1979. In 1979 China, the most populous country on the planet and one of the poorest, had an average life expectancy that put in the higher tier of middle-income countries. In Shanghai China’s richest province, average life expectancy in the late 1970s was 72 years, no more than a year behind that in the UK at the time. Overall life expectancy, at 64 years was in the words of the World Bank "outstandingly high for a country at China's per capita income level".

[...]

Life expectancy reflects an entire complex of factors, but the World Bank did not hesitate in its interpretation. In its view it was due to the fact that unlike other low-income countries - notably India since independence - the Communist regime in China had secured a basic provision of food, health care and education for practically everyone.

[...]

China’s superior nutritional level reflected the more advanced state of its agriculture. Reduced to a common denominator of grain-equivalents the World Bank estimated that China’s agricultural production per capita was 27 percent higher than that of India in 1979. The endowment of Chinese agriculture with farm machinery and the use of fertilizer was far greater than in India. Yields per hectare were higher, as was historically the case.

The World Bank’s statistics painted the picture of a Chinese agricultural economy that used a high intensity of industrial inputs to produce superior yields per hectare compared to most low-income countries.

[...]

It was not high spending on rural development, that secured the far better outcomes for the mass of China’s population but the comprehensive organization of social services and the priority given to food distribution, education and health .

[...]

Whereas the cities of other poor countries were places of extreme inequality, China’s cities in the Mao and immediate post-Mao era were places of relative equality. In China, the gini measure of inequality was lower in the city than in the countryside, in India the reverse was true.

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Zmej posted:

there was a slew of articles about the alienation of urban/white collar workers in China, and young people feeling more and more isolated a few months ago. I took it with a few grains of salt but I am not dismissive that something like is happening since that seems pretty natural as the economy and modes of production develop. can anyone lend any reality check on that? I am very interested in how China might address that issue since we all know it's a huge problem in US (and many other countries, but the US is the most atomized)

Oh its definitely real, chinese young people (espicially college graduates) are really pissed off about this. expectations at work and to get a job are extremely high but salaries are low. cost of living is also extremely high, and it's social convention here to buy a house before getting married, and thats getting further and further out of reach. the govt here faces the same contradictions in the west, where high house prices benefit those that already own property (basically the urban population and older people) but disadvantages most people (younger people and migrant workers). These contradictory impulses are really hurting young people and leading to disillusionment. I don't think the govt will be able to fix it until they actually abandon capitalism or change the economic structure in a really massive way. Xi has been making good moves recently by regulating tech titans that people thought were untouchable, but the structure of the economy itself and housing are much more difficult subjects. I have optimism, but I dunno it's an extremely difficult problem to solve. Especially since America is trying to strangle china's economy.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
sixthtone have a bunch of articles on the subject

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006523/fed-up-with-capitalism%2C-young-chinese-brush-up-on-das-kapital

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006336/young-chinese-bemoan-rat-race-with-tongue-in-cheek-memes

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1007589/tired-of-running-in-place%2C-young-chinese-lie-down

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

lobster shirt posted:

im like 15% of the way through tom clancy masterpiece the bear and the dragon, and falun gong has been mentioned like... at least five or six times, described as "not really a religion", "barely a religion as a westerner would understand it", and a mild "spiritual belief system" that the CCP nevertheless persecutes cruelly because, as communists, they are jealous of all other belief systems. as part of this unjust and cruel repression, their organs were harvested. book also has lots of "they don't value life like we do" including at least one (possibly several) mentions of how one child policy violators are allowed/made to carry their children to term, and then the doctor stabs the baby head with a chloroform syringe as it crowns.

this will actually become a plot point later on, with a policeman killing the papal nuncio live on CNN as the the nuncio is trying to prevent another baby from getting chloroformed, if i remember correctly

the book rocks is what im saying.

Really? I might actually check out this book if its the case.

I only read Clancy books up to 1 book after Red October (back when I actually read text printed on dead trees). I think Jack Ryan was still secretary of state or something. Clancy jumped the shark when he gave Jack Ryan more and more important position and it was not fun anymore.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

Really? I might actually check out this book if its the case.

I only read Clancy books up to 1 book after Red October (back when I actually read text printed on dead trees). I think Jack Ryan was still secretary of state or something. Clancy jumped the shark when he gave Jack Ryan more and more important position and it was not fun anymore.

the trilogy of debt of honor, executive orders, and the bear and the dragon is incredibly funny, with the first one featuring national security advisor jack ryan (ending with jack ryan becoming president after a japanese airline pilot does 9/11 during the state of the union, dr ryan having recently accepted the role of vice president) and then the second two involving president ryan solving the worlds various problems. all pre-9/11 too so you get a wonderful look at the neocon mind and plans for the 21st century before mohammad atta's catastrophic flying lesson.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
just lol if you didn’t check out of Clancy during whatever book has the stupid fat cia guy trying to save a sex worker with a heart of gold and fighting drug cartels

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
why….why a japanese pilot

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

mcclay posted:

why….why a japanese pilot

Boomer brain in the 80s and 90s were convinced the japanese would destroy america.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

mcclay posted:

why….why a japanese pilot

kamikaze because Americans killed his family on Saipan

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

mcclay posted:

why….why a japanese pilot

there was all kinds of fear about japan using its economic domination to take over the united states (see also rising sun by michael crichton, an insanely racist novel). in debt of honor, a coalition of japanese industrialists led by a guy who hated the US because his parents died on saipan suborn the japanese government, and use the japanese military to sink some US submarines, damage two aircraft carriers, and take over some islands. they are also cooperating with india which wants to invade sri lanka for some reason. anyway thanks to the brilliant (BUT EXTREMELY UNDERFUNDED, this is mentioned dozens of times) us military and also jack ryans great plans, the US wins and a good japanese guy gets to become prime minister, status quo antebellum restored. except this japanese airline pilot's son and brother are both killed in the conflict, so in his grief he flies a plane into capitol building, during the state of the union address.

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
holy poo poo lmao

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

president jack ryan gets to appoint all nine supreme court justices, because basically the entire apparatus of government is killed, and it is heavily implied in the bear and the dragon that one of the first things the court does is overturn roe v wade

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
clancy novels prove we’re not in the worst possible timeline

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


America was scared of Japanese business/economic domination in the 80's and 90's.

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
WtF why didn't ubisoft make a game based on that plot. That's extremely funny.

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