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Doctor Jeep posted:it seems they protected their account, what were the tweets saying Their parents telling them to go to bed before 3 in the morning is fascism. Anarchism is when you stay up all night playing video games.
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Epic High Five posted:also lol, I'd ask if you would prefer to live in Kowloon Walled City but even then it's unfair because NK is an example of exceptionally bad circumstances and Kowloon is an ideal of the type, though oddly absent from any discussion of anarchism despite the tenancy's obsession with the incredibly unequal and reactionary society it presided within famously anarchist kowloon walled city ruled by triad benevolent societies and mutual aid through socialist exchange of public utilities and services
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Top City Homo posted:famously anarchist kowloon walled city As with most things actually established on the basis of no real government or enforcement mechanisms, I don't doubt they'd absolutely deny they aren't anarchists since that's the norm anyway. But it's suspiciously similar in structure as to what I'm told an ideal anarchist setup would be but nobody seems to want to bring it up. It's always ones that were declared stupidly and then crushed like Kronstadt. I suppose we could also analyze those freeholders or whatever they're called who set up on abandoned ocean rigs
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Epic High Five posted:As with most things actually established on the basis of no real government or enforcement mechanisms, I don't doubt they'd absolutely deny they aren't anarchists since that's the norm anyway. But it's suspiciously similar in structure as to what I'm told an ideal anarchist setup would be but nobody seems to want to bring it up. It's always ones that were declared stupidly and then crushed like Kronstadt. I suppose we could also analyze those freeholders or whatever they're called who set up on abandoned ocean rigs i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzv1EI5gDnE
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Sedisp posted:Westerners really do not like being told that they are not the main characters. They already abandoned them and are the enemies of humanity
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pnac attack posted:i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long 
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pnac attack posted:i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long lol
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pnac attack posted:i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long I hoped this was unsourced quoting or copy pasta. jfc. does anyone have a solid take on why theres an undercurrent of pedophilia and pedophilia apologia in both libertarian and anarchist ideology (or at least its adherents)? biceps crimes has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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Sedisp posted:Westerners really do not like being told that they are not the main characters. They already abandoned them and are the enemies of humanity They cannot move past their cartesian abstractions they cannot face reality and wrestle with it the world is not facing an apocolypse only the west
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pnac attack posted:i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long How is any of that revolutionary? Like your highest aspiration is "exist a little better within the status quo" and we don't even have favelas here because the behavior of even the fringes is so well directed and constrained that state resources can be trivially deployed when necessary to keep sizes and locations in preferred arrangements. You wanna alleviate a small amount of the burden on the lives of the lumpen, anarchy and mutual aid is a great choice. If you want to eliminate their status as an example used to terrify the other classes into submission, I suggest you read Mao. If you don't want to do that just keep in mind that even professional swimmers will eventually drown if they're forced to tread water long enough. Sedisp posted:Westerners really do not like being told that they are not the main characters. A lot of supposed leftists here already are and the battle lines haven't even been drawn lol
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gay_crimes posted:I hoped this was unsourced quoting or copy pasta. jfc. I think its more that the pedophilia comes first and anarchism and libertarianism are convenient veneers of ideology to attempt to legitimize wanting to rape children
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gay_crimes posted:does anyone have a solid take on why theres an undercurrent of pedophilia and pedophilia apologia in both libertarian and anarchist ideology (or at least its adherents)? they're both ideologies afraid of being accountable to society at large and only wanting to deal with the local in-group, which happens to be exactly how abusive scumbags orient their family structure. probably some attraction there so people who really want to gently caress kids can find a way to 'justify' it and also sound smart. it's a helpful way to say ah i reject society at large not because I'm literally a danger to society but because I'm such a radical brain genius they could never accept me. so it's more that pedophiles use anarchist language and less that anarchists are pedophiles
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Kaedric posted:I've never really understood the argument against Marxism (and offshoots) when folks bring up that it was (allegedly) anti-semitic, or transphobic, or racist, or homophobic or whatever. it's the same thinking that leads people to criticize lefty governments/movements in south and central america for the heinous crimes of [checks notes] building roads, investing in resource extraction industries, and anything else that might step on someone's toes or goes against their anarcho-primitivist ideals it's all about aesthetics and some deeply hosed up moralizing. instead of, you know, the exercise of power
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pnac attack posted:i think you should analyze deez nuts. you probably walk past functioning examples of anarchy in action every day but ignore them because they're "terrifying" or "stink like piss". the sealand guys know they're a joke and run it like a business. you can buy royal titles or 1" plots of land from their gift shop. anarchy is tent cities ruining downtowns for shoppers, reclaiming infrastructure as organically as slime mold. reverse gentrification. luxury cars disappearing from gas stations. merch walking out of stores. kids giving out soup in buses. squatters in investment properties. any movement that's declared itself doesn't count pretty much by definition. the real deal is right under the surface of pretty much any ideology, propping things up and waiting to come back out. it's going to work because it always has and nothing else can. babylon system is the vampire, falling empire. sucking the blood of the sufferers. building church and university, deceiving us continually. graduating thieves and murderers, look out now. we've been trodding on their winepress far too long dude all that stuff you're describing is just regular capitalism. you're just part of the surplus population that capital concentration naturally produces and which makes sure the reserve army of labor is well staffed. if the bourgeoisie didn't want tent cities they would just eliminate them (and in fact they sometimes do). what you're describing is not rebellion but total surrender, just completely ceding the ground
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Epic High Five posted:How is any of that revolutionary? Like your highest aspiration is "exist a little better within the status quo" and we don't even have favelas here because the behavior of even the fringes is so well directed and constrained that state resources can be trivially deployed when necessary to keep sizes and locations in preferred arrangements. i don't worry about whether things are revolutionary or aspirational enough. "exist a little better" is pretty much it, yep. it's a lot harder than you make it sound. the lumpen sound like a adorable fantasy race of tiny mushroom-dwellers but i think you just mean regular people and yeah lifting each other up is exactly what i want to do. i'll read a book for every meal you give out and treading water is a lot better than nothing. no proof required, just tell me you directly improved material conditions in any way for anyone today and something more specific to read than Mao Ferrinus posted:dude all that stuff you're describing is just regular capitalism. you're just part of the surplus population that capital concentration naturally produces and which makes sure the reserve army of labor is well staffed. if the bourgeoisie didn't want tent cities they would just eliminate them (and in fact they sometimes do). what you're describing is not rebellion but total surrender, just completely ceding the ground that sucks but like. no matter what anyone says feeding/sheltering people is super fulfilling and the main thing i really care about. getting someone some wheels and watching them start giving rides is what it's all about. a better world is only possible if you make it, and i'm not sure how you guys think that's supposed to happen if not incrementally. you can't just win the match and run a flag up somewhere
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Epic High Five posted:A lot of supposed leftists here already are and the battle lines haven't even been drawn lol I guess I mean it will be more of dropping even the pretense support solidarity worldwide, instead of how now they get to convince themselves that praxis is uploading their latest two hour video on how Brave Little Toaster is a Marxist allegory. pnac attack posted:i don't worry about whether things are revolutionary or aspirational enough. "exist a little better" is pretty much it, yep. it's a lot harder than you make it sound. the lumpen sound like a adorable fantasy race of tiny mushroom-dwellers but i think you just mean regular people and yeah lifting each other up is exactly what i want to do. i'll read a book for every meal you give out and treading water is a lot better than nothing. no proof required, just tell me you directly improved material conditions in any way for anyone today and something more specific to read than Mao You can just say you're a liberal my dude.
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pnac attack posted:that sucks but like. no matter what anyone says feeding/sheltering people is super fulfilling and the main thing i really care about. getting someone some wheels and watching them start giving rides is what it's all about. a better world is only possible if you make it, and i'm not sure how you guys think that's supposed to happen if not incrementally. you can't just win the match and run a flag up somewhere every person you feed is someone the state doesn't have to feed. everyone you hook up with a vehicle is now ready to start generating profits for uber. petty crime and violence in general just serves to legitimize the police state. there's nothing revolutionary about bare survival communists, of course, have heavily relied on mutual aid, robbery, and violence in the course of building the strength of a party which will direct the working class's takeover of society, but if you aren't consciously building towards revolution you're just a completely natural part of the capitalist ecosystem whose effects have long since been factored in to all the spreadsheets
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pnac attack posted:i don't worry about whether things are revolutionary or aspirational enough. "exist a little better" is pretty much it, yep. it's a lot harder than you make it sound. the lumpen sound like a adorable fantasy race of tiny mushroom-dwellers but i think you just mean regular people and yeah lifting each other up is exactly what i want to do. i'll read a book for every meal you give out and treading water is a lot better than nothing. no proof required, just tell me you directly improved material conditions in any way for anyone today and something more specific to read than Mao Uh you realize that anarchists arent the only ones doing outreach to the homeless right? Like theres a Maoist org I used to work with alongside the local DSA in relief and packaging winter supplies and poo poo. Catholic Workers are also involved. I just think getting a motel to convert to a temporary housing model in the plague times is a more realistic way to actually fix someone's circumstances temporarily than telling them to squat somewhere, and that the fact that the broader issues remain unchanged and even a little more entrenched as a result So I'm not gonna ask you to read a couple hundred books, but if you're still interested I'm gonna give you one that isnt even a book of theory and is short and accessible. Read Walking with Comrades and tell me why there is no anarchist presence anywhere and what alternative structures the Maoists should adopt to make them less tyrannical while also addressing everything else the people in the region are dealing with. Hell I'll even offer the same, on the condition that I've done my time and ain't reading any more Heinlein
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Sedisp posted:I guess I mean it will be more of dropping even the pretense support solidarity worldwide, instead of how now they get to convince themselves that praxis is uploading their latest two hour video on how Brave Little Toaster is a Marxist allegory. Look, we are all desperate to not confront the fact that the air conditioner was clearly Trotsky, but it's time we admitted it so we can begin the healing process
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Each of the cars in Worthless are workers that have outlived their usefulness to capitalism with the Magnet serving as a class traitor clearly aware of what his fate is once he is no longer useful to his capitalist masters. Make sure you click that bell and smash that like button then head over to my patreon
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pnac attack posted:no matter what anyone says feeding/sheltering people is super fulfilling and the main thing i really care about.
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Ferrinus posted:every person you feed is someone the state doesn't have to feed. everyone you hook up with a vehicle is now ready to start generating profits for uber. petty crime and violence in general just serves to legitimize the police state. there's nothing revolutionary about bare survival the state doesn't feed us in the first place and i don't think anyone i've ever set up with a car started driving for uber (they are not usually very nice cars). maintaining your principles in a system that does not want you is revolutionary enough for me. "resisting the police state legitimizes it" is a terrible take and squatting in particular can make a huge difference in the direction a neighborhood takes. jerking off dead political theorists is never going to accomplish anything on its own Epic High Five posted:Uh you realize that anarchists arent the only ones doing outreach to the homeless right? Like theres a Maoist org I used to work with alongside the local DSA in relief and packaging winter supplies and poo poo. Catholic Workers are also involved. I just think getting a motel to convert to a temporary housing model in the plague times is a more realistic way to actually fix someone's circumstances temporarily than telling them to squat somewhere, and that the fact that the broader issues remain unchanged and even a little more entrenched as a result was looking for something more personal than contributing to an organization but i'm gonna read that anyways. also i'm homeless so it's more community organizing than outreach really
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pnac attack posted:the state doesn't feed us in the first place and i don't think anyone i've ever set up with a car started driving for uber (they are not usually very nice cars). maintaining your principles in a system that does not want you is revolutionary enough for me. "resisting the police state legitimizes it" is a terrible take and squatting in particular can make a huge difference in the direction a neighborhood takes. jerking off dead political theorists is never going to accomplish anything on its own I'm not really in the business of discussing anything more detailed than anything that could put me anywhere in the country working with anybody else online, I've put my own opinion on the utility versus danger represented by the internet which is why half of what I say about myself is a total fabrication. I brought up organizations to point out that mutual aid is not exclusive to any ideology or praxis, and limiting yourself to it has a hard maximum of what you can achieve, not because I necessarily believe them to be the only path.
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pnac attack posted:the state doesn't feed us in the first place and i don't think anyone i've ever set up with a car started driving for uber (they are not usually very nice cars). maintaining your principles in a system that does not want you is revolutionary enough for me. "resisting the police state legitimizes it" is a terrible take and squatting in particular can make a huge difference in the direction a neighborhood takes. jerking off dead political theorists is never going to accomplish anything on its own in fact it does, and by this i don't just mean the existence of badly underfunded homeless shelters or food stamps programs or whatever. the fact that the world you live in is so productive that it generates excess food, clothing, etc and that it inherently tiers spaces such that there's such a thing as the center vs. the margins, the core vs. the periphery, etc, creates a ready-made niche for the homeless and unemployed to slide into and just barely subsist in until such time as they're needed to either draft into the workforce or torture/execute as an example to the workforce. capitalism always has generated and always will generate miserable, abject populations who are de facto excluded from society; you can crack open Capital and find marx talking about people exactly like you doing their thing back in the 1800s or whatever. i cannot emphasize this enough: you are performing surrender, not resistance, and everything you do is not only accounted for but actually encouraged by the world as it is. you are not "resisting the police state" because you are not actually constructing a movement that can ever beat the police state. you've just lost to the police state, and now remain in the margins where the police state chose to push you
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pnac attack posted:the state doesn't feed us in the first place and i don't think anyone i've ever set up with a car started driving for uber (they are not usually very nice cars). maintaining your principles in a system that does not want you is revolutionary enough for me. "resisting the police state legitimizes it" is a terrible take and squatting in particular can make a huge difference in the direction a neighborhood takes. jerking off dead political theorists is never going to accomplish anything on its own How in the world is petty crime resisting the price state? Just seems like some kid shoplifting and managing to convince themselves it was a revolutionary act.
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Petty crime is rad but not revolutionary Also almost none of us are real revolutionaries here and just posters, in fairness to pnac
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Epic High Five posted:I'm not really in the business of discussing anything more detailed than anything that could put me anywhere in the country working with anybody else online, I've put my own opinion on the utility versus danger represented by the internet which is why half of what I say about myself is a total fabrication. I brought up organizations to point out that mutual aid is not exclusive to any ideology or praxis, and limiting yourself to it has a hard maximum of what you can achieve, not because I necessarily believe them to be the only path. that's smart but "gave a dude a sandwich" or "picked up a hitchhiker" or "someone's living on my couch" wouldn't really dox you. mutual aid has a whole different meaning when you're reaching down and pulling up vs at the bottom trying to push together. anyways thanks for the reading rec, i'll let you know what i think Ferrinus posted:in fact it does, and by this i don't just mean the existence of badly underfunded homeless shelters or food stamps programs or whatever. the fact that the world you live in is so productive that it generates excess food, clothing, etc and that it inherently tiers spaces such that there's such a thing as the center vs. the margins, the core vs. the periphery, etc, creates a ready-made niche for the homeless and unemployed to slide into and just barely subsist in until such time as they're needed to either draft into the workforce or torture/execute as an example to the workforce. capitalism always has generated and always will generate miserable, abject populations who are de facto excluded from society; you can crack open Capital and find marx talking about people exactly like you doing their thing back in the 1800s or whatever. i don't have an answer beyond the whole grass in the sidewalk cracks thing, i'm here and i'm gonna live. spread my roots, propagate, hopefully crumble some foundations. to me surrender would be pursuing wealth and i experience resistance daily Sedisp posted:How in the world is petty crime resisting the price state? Just seems like some kid shoplifting and managing to convince themselves it was a revolutionary act. you steal a coat from someone who wants to use it to make money and give it to someone who needs to use it to stay warm or some food from someone who wants to use it to make money and give it to someone who needs to use it to stay alive taking things that are supposed to make someone money and using them to meet people's needs as a whole really "we aren't revolutionaries, but we are the revolution"
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pnac attack posted:i don't have an answer beyond the whole grass in the sidewalk cracks thing, i'm here and i'm gonna live. spread my roots, propagate, hopefully crumble some foundations. to me surrender would be pursuing wealth and i experience resistance daily clinging stubbornly to life in the margins is exactly what the people pursuing wealth want you to do. you are playing your ordained part in the world they've constructed, and if you didn't already exist they would have to invent you
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Larry Parrish posted:they're both ideologies afraid of being accountable to society at large and only wanting to deal with the local in-group, which happens to be exactly how abusive scumbags orient their family structure. probably some attraction there so people who really want to gently caress kids can find a way to 'justify' it and also sound smart. it's a helpful way to say ah i reject society at large not because I'm literally a danger to society but because I'm such a radical brain genius they could never accept me. I don't think we can totally discount the ideological straitjacketing that leads people into rationalizing pedophilia as being ok, either. There's certainly an element to all of it where the need to feel ideologically consistent leads people down a path where they come to the most extreme and idiotic rational conclusions. Even if they themselves aren't pedophiles.
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pnac attack posted:i don't have an answer beyond the whole grass in the sidewalk cracks thing, i'm here and i'm gonna live. spread my roots, propagate, hopefully crumble some foundations. to me surrender would be pursuing wealth and i experience resistance daily You organize. People with no pretense of middle-class respectability are necessary to a revolutionary movement too, but you need to act as part of an organized movement not as individuals.
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Yossarian-22 posted:Petty crime is rad but not revolutionary I have also managed not to convince myself that posting is a revolutionary act. pnac attack posted:you steal a coat from someone who wants to use it to make money and give it to someone who needs to use it to stay warm None of these are revolutionary acts. They are laudable acts but helping someone up is not a revolution. The police state does not actually care about petty crimes as it justifies it's existence hence the reason why cops do not care if your car is stolen nor do they bother overmuch with hunting down shoplifters until it's raised beyond petty crime. At the end of the day to the capitalist state if you aren't caught you justify a crackdown and if you are that's another body in a sector they are working very hard to add profit motives to. A win win. I get that it is tempting to believe if we all just smoke weed and be cool the system will collapse cause you can't arrest evvvveryone if we all just shop lift and congratulations liberal capitalism has programmed that belief into your noggin. The fact is everyone won't do independent random acts of kindness until the system changes and even if we all independently did anarchism like you want the system would immediately rip off it's mask and remind you that the bourgeoisie are not human and proceed with full bore fascism which will require an..... organized revolution to remove. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 23:32 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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gay_crimes posted:mutual aid is not resistance to capital, it is mere survival. gathering crumbs and distributing them while conditions continue to deteriorate and margins shrink is not revolutionary. though to the bourgeoisie who decide to cosplay in the margins, sharing can seem radical actually the constant exploitation is what makes sharing seem radical but drat that's a grim take and i felt it. what are *you* gonna do about it though? PhilippAchtel posted:You organize. People with no pretense of middle-class respectability are necessary to a revolutionary movement too, but you need to act as part of an organized movement not as individuals. we need more people to act right not someone new to tell them to Sedisp posted:I have also managed not to convince myself that posting is a revolutionary act. i think they are and it is and i'm gonna keep doing what i can and assuming that absolutely anyone who gives themselves any kind of title is a real jerk. and i am 100% sure you have never even visited prison
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anyone have that tweet from some dummy that was like, "mutual aid not socialized medicine, gently caress state run health-care!" I need a good laugh helping less fortunate people is obviously good but it seems like "mutual aid" is this magical thing that will somehow replace the need for state services. just like how libertarians talk about "charity."
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my bony fealty posted:anyone have that tweet from some dummy that was like, "mutual aid not socialized medicine, gently caress state run health-care!" I need a good laugh It needs to be paired with organizing of some sort for it to be of some use, otherwise it's just charity. Even the DSA libsoc caucus advocates for the organizing of workers into unions or co-ops, neighborhood assemblies, worker councils, and for all to be networking and supporting each other as they work to build themselves into institutions that can challenge the state. Imho, the system doesn't care if you feed the homeless, so arm them instead
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