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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Android Apocalypse posted:

Sometimes it works, but I did not like the rendition of Smells Like Teen Spirit being used.

what about a version where it's chanted by thousands of child coal miners and also pirates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQBGmBOhQEE

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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Ugly In The Morning posted:

The Gary Jules cover of Mad World does that and I hate it.

The worst example of this is the horrible sad dude cover of Dancing On My Own, which takes one of most effervescent pop songs ever written and turns it into some mopey maudlin crap that doesn't even make sense thematically. The fact that this version has a quarter billion views whereas Robyn's video has only like 40mil is proof that there is no justice in this world.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Sagebrush posted:

what about a version where it's chanted by thousands of child coal miners and also pirates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQBGmBOhQEE
NWS this filth

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

exquisite tea posted:

The worst example of this is the horrible sad dude cover of Dancing On My Own, which takes one of most effervescent pop songs ever written and turns it into some mopey maudlin crap that doesn't even make sense thematically. The fact that this version has a quarter billion views whereas Robyn's video has only like 40mil is proof that there is no justice in this world.

The worst part about the Robyn thing is the whole point is it's a happy pop sounding song with lyrics about loneliness.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


What parodies diss the trend of the award-bait slow cover?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Sagebrush posted:

what about a version where it's chanted by thousands of child coal miners and also pirates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQBGmBOhQEE

Suddenly I'm interested in seeing this movie. It's like David Lynch decided to make a kids film.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
I remember it getting mixed reviews at the time but I really liked how it was one of the few modern Peter Pan interpretations to openly even touch the adolescent sexual-development aspects of the story, and how Pan is kind of a menacing and ambiguous character. I also thought the cast was fantastic.

Edit: turns out I was talking about a different version: https://youtu.be/kpUNUKDBhRA

Imagined has a new favorite as of 22:00 on Jul 26, 2021

lavaca
Jun 11, 2010

Ugly In The Morning posted:

The Gary Jules cover of Mad World does that and I hate it.

I have to imagine that this song's subsequent overexposure has ruined the impact of its use in Donnie Darko for anyone who didn't see the movie by 2005 or so. Do kids these days just groan and say "oh man, not this bullshit again" during that scene?

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


I just how remembered how long this trope has been mocked. The Bummer Remix of America, gently caress Yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYGRf6Nw0k

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Speaking of music, I just realized that the song "Boogie Nights'" never appears in the film.

For shame.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

muscles like this! posted:

I thought it was dumb that they did some weird mix of old and new designs for characters. Also it was really bizarre that they go to Heaven and learn that normal people don't get an afterlife, only heroes do.

Designs were likely a licensing thing, I remember when that He-Man reboot happened back in like 2002-03 they had to change some stuff (like the cross on He-Man's chest going from 4 prong to 6 prong)

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

What parodies diss the trend of the award-bait slow cover?

I saw a local comedy show many years ago, where one of the set musical pieces was someone going viral in South Korea with an uptempo k_pop version of 'Hurt'.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Imagined posted:

trying to summon emotional beats among a 'family' even the movie admits isn't a real family,

Meh, found families are still families. Nat is being the pessimistic kid (all "Shut up Brian you're not even my real dad" vibes) when she keeps saying they're not. They fall into the rhythms of a family the moment they're all at a table together.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

BiggerBoat posted:

Speaking of music, I just realized that the song "Boogie Nights'" never appears in the film.

For shame.

But it does feature a song originally written for a cartoon movie about a cartoon tv show about robots that turn into car, even though 'In Universe's the song won't exist for several years.

So we're left to wonder if Stan Bush somehow stole that song from Dirk Diggler?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Maigius posted:

Slowed down pop music over montages. The one in the opening credits of Black Widow was especially annoying.

I loving love Dune and so am excited and also worried about the movie, but the trailer does this with a Pink Floyd song and I haaaaaaaaaaaate it.

Course, the director doesn't control the trailer typically.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

lavaca posted:

I have to imagine that this song's subsequent overexposure has ruined the impact of its use in Donnie Darko for anyone who didn't see the movie by 2005 or so. Do kids these days just groan and say "oh man, not this bullshit again" during that scene?

What drives me nuts is that the downbeat cover misses the entire point of the song. It’s not about being depressed- it’s an upbeat new wave song about being stressed as gently caress.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
As much as I hate the ubiquity of sad cover versions, I prefer it to the time when metal bands were falling all over themselves to cover pop songs from the 80s.

impossiboobs
Oct 2, 2006


Inspector Gesicht posted:

What parodies diss the trend of the award-bait slow cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRmYfVCH2UA

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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and you are
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Illegal Hen

DrBouvenstein posted:

But it does feature a song originally written for a cartoon movie about a cartoon tv show about robots that turn into car, even though 'In Universe's the song won't exist for several years.

So we're left to wonder if Stan Bush somehow stole that song from Dirk Diggler?

That is my biggest IIMM with Boogie Nights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtOviHnmAlE

The scene itself though is :discourse:.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Zaphod42 posted:

I loving love Dune and so am excited and also worried about the movie, but the trailer does this with a Pink Floyd song and I haaaaaaaaaaaate it.

No guild navigators is a disappointment. Loved those 3rd stage monsters in the original movie.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Gromit posted:

No guild navigators is a disappointment. Loved those 3rd stage monsters in the original movie.

That was mostly a David Lynch thing as far as the first book goes

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Ugly In The Morning posted:

That was mostly a David Lynch thing as far as the first book goes

It is kind of extrapolated out from a description of a Guild Navigator in Dune Messiah who has elongated limbs, webbed hands and feet and floats in a cloud of spice inside a special box. He's described as weird looking but still mostly human.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

muscles like this! posted:

It is kind of extrapolated out from a description of a Guild Navigator in Dune Messiah who has elongated limbs, webbed hands and feet and floats in a cloud of spice inside a special box. He's described as weird looking but still mostly human.

The lynch navigators were waaay past human.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Imagined posted:

Black Widow [...] trying to summon emotional beats among a 'family' even the movie admits isn't a real family

Setting aside the other points, this isn't fair criticism because it's the intent of the story. Natasha found a family in the Avengers that she never thought she could really have, but the Avengers weren't a real family either. Now she's back with her original fake family and it starts happening again. You're meant to draw the parallel.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

BiggerBoat posted:

Speaking of music, I just realized that the song "Boogie Nights'" never appears in the film.

For shame.

This is one of the very best things on the internet, exceptionally interesting even if you don’t think Boogie Nights has a valid claim to be the best film ever made.

https://grantland.com/features/boogie-nights/

tl;dr PTA very much wanted the song, but the artist found Jesus and didn’t want his music associated with a movie about the porn industry. The article gives an amazing amount of detail about how worried almost everyone involved was about making the film.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Jedit posted:

Setting aside the other points, this isn't fair criticism because it's the intent of the story. Natasha found a family in the Avengers that she never thought she could really have, but the Avengers weren't a real family either. Now she's back with her original fake family and it starts happening again. You're meant to draw the parallel.

I understand what it's going for, I just don't think it pulls it off. I understand that they wanted me to feel that family dynamic with them, but I didn't feel like they had the chemistry.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

MariusLecter posted:

The ones in Spongebob are anchovy.

For some reason I thought they were pilchards when I saw that episode.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

BiggerBoat posted:

Speaking of music, I just realized that the song "Boogie Nights'" never appears in the film.

For shame.

The lead singer of Heatwave is a born-again Christian and refused to allow the song to be played in the movie because "it's about dancing, no pornography"

Two years later he allowed it to be used in Summer of Sam and the two films have about the same amount of sex and nudity.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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muscles like this! posted:

It is kind of extrapolated out from a description of a Guild Navigator in Dune Messiah who has elongated limbs, webbed hands and feet and floats in a cloud of spice inside a special box. He's described as weird looking but still mostly human.

Yeah, in the first book there are navigators who are disguised as guards I think by wearing contact lenses. In messiah the navigator is described as looking pretty weird but still like able to hang out at a table with a bunch of other people and not a weird slug the size of a truck in a giant aquarium.

I did like the big slug navigator too, it almost foreshadows god emperor of dune.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I like the movie Logan for being a send-off to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart in the roles, but I think it's a bad Wolverine movie and I'm still waiting for them to make a good one.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Logan's a movie with a decent aesthetic and a couple good ideas that gets significantly worse as it goes on. I like Eriq La Salle in it, but once they meet up with him it starts going downhill real fast.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Gaunab posted:

I like the movie Logan for being a send-off to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart in the roles, but I think it's a bad Wolverine movie and I'm still waiting for them to make a good one.

To be fair, it does have the good Wolverine in it.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I think the actress who played X-23 was great but the character in general never really clicked with me.

OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Gaunab posted:

I like the movie Logan for being a send-off to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart in the roles, but I think it's a bad Wolverine movie and I'm still waiting for them to make a good one.

The Wolverine was fine?

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
The Wolverine had hints of greatness with the train fight and Ninja Village fight. I was hoping the sequel would follow through on them but then I saw them eyeing the old man Logan storyline and was disappointed.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I was thinking about Logan today and the bit where he just goes and sees a doctor to ask about his health problems, and is implicitly open with the doctor about being a mutant, what his powers are and how they aren't working as well as they used to, and the doctor treats him as a rare curiosity but otherwise doesn't make a big deal out of it. Illustrates a bit of a world where genocide was successful, and the survivors aren't even a big deal anymore.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Gromit posted:

No guild navigators is a disappointment. Loved those 3rd stage monsters in the original movie.

That is a great scene when the Navigator's tank is hauled in and his spokesperson barks into a microphone, his lip movements not matching the words that are heard. There's lots of goofy things in Lynch's Dune, but that's a nice alien setpiece - this is not our world.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Imagined posted:

I remember it getting mixed reviews at the time but I really liked how it was one of the few modern Peter Pan interpretations to openly even touch the adolescent sexual-development aspects of the story, and how Pan is kind of a menacing and ambiguous character. I also thought the cast was fantastic.

Edit: turns out I was talking about a different version: https://youtu.be/kpUNUKDBhRA

I watched the 2015 version and it's.....not great. There are some bits like the Smells Like Teen Spirit scene that run on drunken dream logic which kind of own (the previous scene is them being abducted from an orphanage by a flying pirate ship, which gets into a dogfight with a bunch of spitfires, and flies into space where Peter punches a planet) , and Hugh jackman chews the scenery nicely. But they've taken Peter Pan and turned it into a godawful "you're the son of our hero, you're the chosen one who can save the day" action plot.

There's a fun bit where Blackbeard is making Peter walk the plank, and ironically tells him "think a happy thought" before kicking him off. Which is the first time Peter realises he can fly. And then later Blackbeard is about to stab Tiger Lily and again, tells her to think a happy thought. So it's clearly setting up that Peter will eventually twig and realise that happy thoughts can make you fly, and there'll be a bit in the climax where Blackbeard has the upper hand, does the happy thought line, Peter flies, saves the day etc etc. It writes itself.

Except that moment never comes. Peter just....learns how to fly when he needs to save Captain Hook's life. And "think a happy thought" is his cool, badass one-liner when he hadokuns Blackbeard with a swarm of pixies (who don't actually need Peter, and could have saved the day all by themselves).

It does that annoying Disney-remake thing of having callbacks to the original works, but in completely the wrong place. So all they do is remind you that you could be watching the original. Peter ironically chants "tick...tock...tick...tock" when a bomb is about to go off. One of blackbeard's henchmen reports that Peter has crashed into the jungle, and the conversation goes "so the boy has been lost?" "yes, he's a lost boy". It's excrutiating.

It's also a movie that starts with a voiceover saying "sometimes, friends start as enemies, and enemies start as friends", and so the whole movie has this implication that eventually Captain Hook and Peter will turn on each other. Except the end of the movie comes, and they're still friends.
And Captain Hook still has both hands. His name is still Captain Hook though, and he has a hook. That he holds. In his hands. That haven't been bitten off by a crocodile.

I was hoping for a fun, tongue-in-cheek adventure like Stardust, or Princess Bride. And you can see Pan trying to be those movies at times. But it misses the mark completely.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's funny that the second Austin Powers movie stars with a text crawl... but apparently it thinks the audience is dumber than Star Wars fans so it's narrated as well.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Torquemada posted:

This is one of the very best things on the internet, exceptionally interesting even if you don’t think Boogie Nights has a valid claim to be the best film ever made.

https://grantland.com/features/boogie-nights/

tl;dr PTA very much wanted the song, but the artist found Jesus and didn’t want his music associated with a movie about the porn industry. The article gives an amazing amount of detail about how worried almost everyone involved was about making the film.

This is a really good read. I love stuff like this and really like the movie so thanks for posting it. Looks like a decent enough website too so I'll check it out.

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