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Dr. Chat: I was really surprised by the Behind the Bastards episode on Dr. Oz. I’d always assumed he was some lovely flunky of his field like Dr. Phil, but he’s actually a very accomplished and talented surgeon… it’s just that there is more money in being a bad doctor who pushes supplements with Oprah’s endorsement. Nightcrawler Chat: IIRC it was an early Trump thread where another goon and I tried to explain to another goon how it was really a vampire movie and that capitalism turns people into monsters. The imagery, Bloom’s character, and the job are very obvious, but this goon completely refused to accept it and was annoyed that people looked too deeply into things lol
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Forceholy posted:Is the medical residency thread on this forum any good? If you join it, they'll probably invite you to join their Discord, which is where the real action is nowadays. I've been lucky in my doctors; in particular, I've had a series of good neurologists, who are critical to my everyday life.
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SpacePig posted:What is there to wait for, TikTok? What am I waiting for? Oh no, kids made a mess in a store that their parent couldn't miss a day working in. Okay cool, what am I waiting for!? The sweet release of death.
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Jul 27, 2021 16:20
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Norton posted:you guys sure have a bunch of strong opinions about an entire field of professionals from like the 4 doctors you've met personally. what are the professions of smart people who are all really nice and good? my personal experience with doctors is some of them are great, some are mediocre and some are awful. wow just like mechanics or teachers or any other job that i can think of. As soon as mechanics or teachers form a professional trade group that lobbies hard and very effectively against Medicare for All, I'll hate them, too.
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Jul 27, 2021 16:26
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Shame Boy posted:If I had to guess, perception of doctors is heavily influenced by how much your existence depends on regularly successfully interacting with them, which for a lot of otherwise-healthy people is probably "not all that much". Like to me doctors are just kinda an annoyance I have to deal with to get my medication, so I'm exaggerating a bit in my personal whining. i can guarantee you that replacing mds with nps, pas, more rns, chiros or naturopaths, which is the thing thats on the table, will not help in any way with this
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Norton posted:you guys sure have a bunch of strong opinions about an entire field of professionals from like the 4 doctors you've met personally. what are the professions of smart people who are all really nice and good? my personal experience with doctors is some of them are great, some are mediocre and some are awful. wow just like mechanics or teachers or any other job that i can think of. mechanics? that’s your example? people loving hate mechanics. and teachers. what are you standing on
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Jul 27, 2021 16:31
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Thanatosian posted:As soon as mechanics or teachers form a professional trade group that lobbies hard and very effectively against Medicare for All, I'll hate them, too. the ama has poo poo opinions but its still a union that survived reagan and not by special dispensation like the sag or sports unions. just wait for the lovely boomers to die, they're the core of the opposition to medicare for all
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Jul 27, 2021 16:34
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bob dobbs is dead posted:just wait for the lovely boomers to die lol I thought we got over this “demographics will save us” nonsense in like 2012
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indigi posted:lol I thought we got over this “demographics will save us” nonsense in like 2012 Even if all the old doctors in the AMA die, what are you going to do about the insurance companies? Lmao
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Jul 27, 2021 16:46
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Forceholy posted:You guys remember that screenshot from a medical textbook a few years back about how different ethnicities deal with pain? i looked into the research for this and the reason isn’t necessarily “lol docs are dumb am i rite”, but that a huge part of medicine is collaborative working and trusting people/patients and a healthy dose of arrogance/ naivety so if you’re a nefarious financial advisor/ MLM the best mark ever is going to be a doctor because they’re rich and will trust you to invest in your guaranteed 100% return scam
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i can guarantee you that replacing mds with nps, pas, more rns, chiros or naturopaths, which is the thing thats on the table, will not help in any way with this I mean yes the problem is the American healthcare system is built in such a way to make everything maximally, fundamentally hosed up, and doctors being Terrible is just one of the most visible side effects. Also lumping nurse practitioners in with chiropractors and naturopaths seems real... unfair, though I realize you didn't mean to equate them or anything lol
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HootTheOwl posted:I dunno, my doctor orders tests and then tells me if the number is high enough that we shold do more tests. Seems polite enough when she does it. these days most places just have non-clinical staff on the HIM side of things call with test results if they red flag, or put a note in the patient portal
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Jul 27, 2021 17:35
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Jel Shaker posted:that a huge part of medicine is collaborative working and trusting people/patients be kinda wild if doctors actually trusted or believed patients who weren't well off white dudes
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Professor Shark posted:Dr. Chat: I was really surprised by the Behind the Bastards episode on Dr. Oz. I’d always assumed he was some lovely flunky of his field like Dr. Phil, but he’s actually a very accomplished and talented surgeon… it’s just that there is more money in being a bad doctor who pushes supplements with Oprah’s endorsement. Sanjay Gupta is like that too. Really good neurosurgeon who became a media grifter who is vehemently against M4A.
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Jul 27, 2021 17:47
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:https://twitter.com/moreperfectus/status/1419447374531895296?s=21 yeah, insurance companies really dont like paying out and will do some messed up things to make sure they dont have to i remember reading one article where the person from one they interviewed bragged about reviewing vacation photos to see if they could halt payments because the person was enjoying themselves too much to be hurt
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Jul 27, 2021 18:14
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StormDrain posted:I'm told neurosurgeons generally practice until they physically can't do it, since it's such a lucrative and respected profession. The fact that he transitioned to politics seems to me that he was not that great of a neurosurgeon. He may have even been bad. do they make movies about BAD doctors? checkmate lib
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Jul 27, 2021 18:35
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atelier morgan posted:be kinda wild if doctors actually trusted or believed patients who weren't well off white dudes lol I was gonna say. doctors hate their patients for the most part
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Jul 27, 2021 18:39
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indigi posted:mechanics? that’s your example? people loving hate mechanics. and teachers. what are you standing on they are normal humans just like people working nearly every other job. I'm curious which professions you consider good because I noticed you ignored that part.
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Jul 27, 2021 18:56
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indigi posted:lol I was gonna say. doctors hate their patients for the most part Doesn't every profession hate its clients? indigi posted:mechanics? that’s your example? people loving hate mechanics. and teachers. what are you standing on Most non-Americans have a lot of respect for the teaching profession because they haven't been brainpoisoned by anti-union propaganda
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Jul 27, 2021 19:02
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Norton posted:they are normal humans just like people working nearly every other job. I'm curious which professions you consider good because I noticed you ignored that part. actually, all professions are bad under capitalism, op
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Jul 27, 2021 19:03
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Ben Carson cameoed in the film Stuck on You as the surgeon who separates Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear. Ben Carson is the physical manifestation of that "not only am I a doctor, but I play one on tv" gag. Incredible
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Norton posted:they are normal humans just like people working nearly every other job. I'm curious which professions you consider good because I noticed you ignored that part. The ones where being systemically bad due to structural and cultural problems results in annoyance and frustration rather than direct injury and death. So mechanics would probably be fine, as far as I know bad mechanics are just annoying and expensive rather than like, insistent that you don't actually need brakes, you've just got autobreakophilia. Teachers also are fine, unless this trend of arming them continues to the point where they can legally shoot a second grader 6 times in the back after he doesn't comply and resists a time-out.
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Shame Boy posted:So mechanics would probably be fine, as far as I know bad mechanics are just annoying and expensive rather than like, insistent that you don't actually need brakes, you've just got autobreakophilia. lol I hope you never have car trouble that can’t be diagnosed by plugging it into a computer. bad mechanics absolutely will do this
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Norton posted:they are normal humans just like people working nearly every other job. I'm curious which professions you consider good because I noticed you ignored that part. I’m not making an argument, I’m just pointing out that yours is asinine
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Shame Boy posted:The ones where being systemically bad due to structural and cultural problems results in annoyance and frustration rather than direct injury and death. Isn't the trend in education the opposite? Students can run roughshod over teachers and the admin doesn't care because they don't want to hear it from the parents or get sued.
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skooma512 posted:Isn't the trend in education the opposite? Students can run roughshod over teachers and the admin doesn't care because they don't want to hear it from the parents or get sued. I was trying to imply that one of the bad professions was "cops" rather than actually say much about teachers. Teachers are fine.
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You guys know who sucks way more than doctors? Dentists. gently caress them. I'm a dental hygienist and i loving hate dentists. I've worked for dozens through temp work and multiple regular jobs and never met one that isn't a greedy bastard except the one I work with at my current public heath job.
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atelier morgan posted:be kinda wild if doctors actually trusted or believed patients who weren't well off white dudes I have some bad news for well off white dudes too
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I know exactly one dentist except for the ones I've paid to cause me pain, and she specifically chose the profession for the money/potential vacation time. She's honestly a pretty nice person so far, but she also hasn't become rich yet. The larger issue is that it's kind of a lovely job, you have to hurt people a lot, physically and financially, and the rewards are not very tangible, because no one is happy after a dentist visit, except if they're drugged. And everything that's cool about it is cooler in regular medicine really. But yeah, capitalism is the underlying problem. I've known a few doctors who were nice, but I could also see them fall into a bubble of well paid golfing assholes and becoming terrible by cultural osmosis. As for doctors treating trans people like poo poo, that's probably more about general transphopia and less about doctors. The issue is that doctors are important if you feel like not being suicidal while trans, unlike mechanics. I see a lot of queer networks recommending specific doctors for that reason.
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Jul 27, 2021 20:44
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duz posted:yeah, insurance companies really dont like paying out and will do some messed up things to make sure they dont have to Instead, I lost because the insurance company claimed their terms -- which I was never able to read, of course -- allowed them to deny "self-reported illnesses", and migraine counts because you can't see it in a blood test or an X-ray. gently caress Aetna.
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Shot (thread detailing issues where OP was within warranty, looking for repairs to their Wacom for manufacturing defects, and Wacom claims the warranty is wrong for reasons): https://twitter.com/ompuco/status/1354124655095730177 Chaser: https://twitter.com/ompuco/status/1419982629013639174
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Wacom shows up outside your house at 2 am and throws a brick through your window, then speeds away
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Shot (thread detailing issues where OP was within warranty, looking for repairs to their Wacom for manufacturing defects, and Wacom claims the warranty is wrong for reasons): saving this for the next time some lolbertarian fuckhead questions our consumer protection laws which say "we don't care if you offer a ninety-minute warranty; if your product is reasonably expected to last for seven years, you will fix it for free for seven years"
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Even if all the old doctors in the AMA die, what are you going to do about the insurance companies? Lmao doctors fought universal health care tooth and nail in Canada but don't worry, that lovely premed whose rich parents want him to be a doctor has random strangers going to bat for his honor right here and now
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I'm reading about the town of White Settlement, Texas, because I hoped naively that it was just named after a dude named White, but of course not it was named that because it was for white people to live in to the exclusion of the Native Americans who were already there. Anyway it's where the Texas quote:Officially the Museum presents both sides of the war; the gift shop has Union items on one side, and Confederate items on the other.
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World War Mammories posted:this transfiguration from the stated mockery of a specific subtype of student to “why do you hate all doctors everywhere” is bizarre yeah its really funny dont you think
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Capitalism question: could someone who holds shares of stock in a large corporate agribusiness sue that corporation for being deliberately unprofitable because they refuse to spray the nitrogenous bodily wastes of their employees on their crops and, in fact, make conscious choices to simply dispose of these resources, and even knowingly spend corporate funds on facilities that promote the underutilization of them?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Capitalism question: could someone who holds shares of stock in a large corporate agribusiness sue that corporation for being deliberately unprofitable because they refuse to spray the nitrogenous bodily wastes of their employees on their crops and, in fact, make conscious choices to simply dispose of these resources, and even knowingly spend corporate funds on facilities that promote the underutilization of them? Anything that harms a corporation in any way is illegal.
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