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Randalor posted:I mean, technically couldn't the GG veto everything (or just refuse to rubberstamp anything) until the Canadian government at least starts upholding their end of the treaties and agreements?
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 02:59 |
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Furnaceface posted:I may frequently disagree with your politics but please stay safe. Your premier is literally trying to kill you. Yeah, I don't know what the gently caress. It was bad enough that people at work were casually talking about what a fucko Kenney is, and that's uncommon. I don't understand what he's trying to do by reducing testing and tracing and quarantine requirements. What's the point other than "hahaha gently caress you all and die?"
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 03:52 |
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I don't know what the gently caress. The point is to try to sweep it under the rug so enough time passes between now and the next election cycle that his popularity has a chance to rebound. It's a stupid risky bet that was probably 100% based on UK rates cratering when guess what, they are on summer break. Now let me take a drink and read about every other risky bet he's made.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:28 |
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But, why not just continue testing normally, do contact tracing, and require people who are positive/ill to isolate? Who's begging for sick people to be in public? Just say, "yeah, we're rolling the dice, do whatever you want, take the mask off and lick a fuckin' doorknob if you want, but if you pop positive, stay your rear end at home until you aren't and we'll let the people who were near you know so that they can get tested." That's still exceptionally little intervention during a pandemic. I don't think this is going to end well because a lack of data is going to destroy the confidence of people who accept a good deal of risk, but don't want to be flying completely blind. After the isolation requirement goes away, no way in hell I'm going to a restaurant or bar.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:45 |
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The only thing I can think of is that he’s trying to appease some big donors who are anti-maskers.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:49 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:The only thing I can think of is that he’s trying to appease some big donors who are anti-maskers. Right, but, like: the masks are all but gone already. Removing them from public transit seems like a lovely idea, but even that's not the worst. Why reduce testing and remove isolation requirements? That's not about protecting anyone's freedom. Who's begging to go out when they've tested positive with a serious illness? What the actual gently caress is wrong with these loving imbeciles? It doesn't even make sense from an anti-masker anti-vaxx perspective, that's what makes it so odd.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:52 |
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PT6A posted:Right, but, like: the masks are all but gone already. Removing them from public transit seems like a lovely idea, but even that's not the worst. Why reduce testing and remove isolation requirements? That's not about protecting anyone's freedom. Who's begging to go out when they've tested positive with a serious illness? What the actual gently caress is wrong with these loving imbeciles? It doesn't even make sense from an anti-masker anti-vaxx perspective, that's what makes it so odd. I agree that the announcement makes no sense. The loss of donor funding is the only “rational” explanation I could come up with.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:57 |
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Don't lament the death of Alberta contact tracing, it never worked in the first place.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 05:00 |
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PittTheElder posted:Don't lament the death of Alberta contact tracing, it never worked in the first place. Ha. Haha... This isn't funny at all...
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 05:04 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:In Canada the GG isn’t need led to give Royal assent. If they are unable to give assent, the deputy GG (Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) or any of the other Supreme Court justices could. The governor general can certainly withhold royal assent, which is what was being discussed above in the context of a veto. Her deputies cannot overrule her and grant it over her objection, but withholding royal assent without a drat good reason probably would lead to the prime minister advising the queen to withdraw her commission.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 05:56 |
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I think Kenny is betting the hospitals won't be overrun and they won't have to back track.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 05:59 |
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^^^If he's banking on the hospitals on not being overrun when there is rampant bed closures, staff is burnt out, Shandro has declared open warfare on pretty much all front line and support staff with an eye towards starving the beast and privatizing, then it'll work out about as well as AIMCO and the billions he gambled on pipelines so far. We're going to see wards being slammed with cases up until the end of year and beyond.PittTheElder posted:Don't lament the death of Alberta contact tracing, it never worked in the first place. Even worse; it actively blocked the federal tracing app and Kenney refused to entertain even the thought of allowing us Albertan peons to be able to use it. Oh and because of this people are now less likely to take any illness seriously. People with cold symptoms are returning to work immediately after receiving a negative COVID test. They won't even allow you to get a test unless you're about to be hospitalized. They're saying "We officially don't care about anyone who works with the public, we officially don't care about school safety, we officially don't care about anyone who hasn't been vaxxed (for any reason) and we officially don't expect anyone to behave as though we ever did care." Welcome to Thunderdome. Lars Blitzer fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Jul 29, 2021 |
# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:03 |
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PT6A posted:Right, but, like: the masks are all but gone already. Removing them from public transit seems like a lovely idea, but even that's not the worst. Why reduce testing and remove isolation requirements? That's not about protecting anyone's freedom. Who's begging to go out when they've tested positive with a serious illness? What the actual gently caress is wrong with these loving imbeciles? It doesn't even make sense from an anti-masker anti-vaxx perspective, that's what makes it so odd. It's sort of interesting -- pretty well everything except the isolation requirements and removing contact tracing (although BC follows strict droplet protocol for contact tracing which is how you get classes with a case but not close contacts so contact tracing is pretty meh) are things BC has already done.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:06 |
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Hinshaw had a Zoom meeting with family docs in Alberta today, and one of the takeaways was that they weren't continuing mask mandates because 'you can write down the law, but it takes people to enforce it.' I mean, it'll take MORE people to take care of the new COVID patients but apparently that's a step too far. Also it would lead to increased confrontation because it's a very polarized item. She also encouraged family doctors to talk to people in their communities and use our unique knowledge of them to convince reluctant people to get the shot! It's a good thing everyone but her was muted because I think I wasn't the only person screaming WHAT THE gently caress DO YOU THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:19 |
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Goosed it. posted:It's sort of interesting -- pretty well everything except the isolation requirements and removing contact tracing (although BC follows strict droplet protocol for contact tracing which is how you get classes with a case but not close contacts so contact tracing is pretty meh) are things BC has already done. Yeah, and we’ve already done all that too. The only things you have to do right now are: wear masks on public transit and in healthcare facilities, and isolate if you’re positive or a close contact of a positive person. And there are not many close contacts because the standards are ridiculous. These new changes make no sense because there were zero restrictions of any significance to begin with! Thinking about it, the only reason they’re stopping testing and isolation requirements is to not deal with schools with many classes in quarantine and not enough teachers. That’s what they’re doing, that’s what they’re scared of. They won’t actually do anything about the safety aspects in schools though, because they are hateful morons.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:32 |
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Goosed it. posted:(although BC follows strict droplet protocol for contact tracing which is how you get classes with a case but not close contacts so contact tracing is pretty meh) I wonder how much bad covid response comes from insisting that we haven't learned anything since like February 2020. "Well some expert once said it's droplets so we're gonna stick with that until the end of time." (See also: 6 feet.)
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:41 |
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God the mask mandates were always important because it gave individuals confidence to say gently caress off to non-maskers.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 06:42 |
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Goosed it. posted:It's sort of interesting -- pretty well everything except the isolation requirements and removing contact tracing (although BC follows strict droplet protocol for contact tracing which is how you get classes with a case but not close contacts so contact tracing is pretty meh) are things BC has already done. Oh, and also they're not going to test people unless it's "needed as part of treatment"
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 11:45 |
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DariusLikewise posted:This is a full list of changes, what the gently caress Alberta
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:09 |
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They probably had some business group tell them that too many people were missing work due to covid or exposure so they made it do you pretty much have to be dying to get tested now.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:19 |
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I understand most of it as "haha Alberta decisions" or things that other places have also done, but no isolation required on a positive test is absolutely bonkers.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:25 |
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Maybe he's planning on taking a page from Pallister's playbook and just saying "For shame, I'm very disappointed in all Albertians".
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:31 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:They probably had some business group tell them that too many people were missing work due to covid or exposure so they made it do you pretty much have to be dying to get tested now. That makes the most sense to me, positive test = sick time
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:40 |
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It is a great day for catholicism, my interesting internet acquaintances.quote:
quote:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/residential-school-survivors-catholic-church-millions-1.6121678 Arson is bad. Do not do an arson. Recognize a situation where you can purse your lips grimly, and nod, and understand why someone ELSE might think it would be good to start some fires, but recognize that this is ultimately bad, and then resolve to not do bad things.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:46 |
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Speaking of Manitoba https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rheal-forest-residential-schools-1.6121886 quote:A Catholic priest has been banned by a Winnipeg archdiocese from speaking publicly after accusing residential school survivors of lying about sexual abuse to get more money from court settlements, of spreading falsehoods about residential schools, and joking about shooting those writing graffiti on churches, among other comments. Also Pallister hasn't made a public appearance since his "came here to build" comments, what, two weeks ago?
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:48 |
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flakeloaf posted:It is a great day for catholicism, my interesting internet acquaintances. I mean, if you burn down the churches, then the Catholic Church will spend more money to repair or replace them and take it out of reconciliation money. They've already shown they'll use that money for everything else (that isn't reconcilliation). Edit: Gringo Heisenberg posted:Speaking of Manitoba He's just been busy punishing Ministers who spoke out against him. Randalor fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jul 29, 2021 |
# ? Jul 29, 2021 13:57 |
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https://twitter.com/CANADALAND/status/1420732102677606401
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 14:09 |
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Honest question.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 14:34 |
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God can Fallout Alberta just create some fictional warp portal and replace IRL alberta already
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 14:37 |
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I’m glad that the Alberta government is give a hearty gently caress you to all of us. COVID-19 spreading faster in Alberta than during peak of 3rd wave Canada's vaccination laggard: Alberta trails nation with slow uptake for 1st dose of COVID-19 vaccines Oops!
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 14:54 |
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It’s me. I’m the anti-Albertan force out to get the tar sands. I wasn’t very successful and now all of BC is on fire.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 14:55 |
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Old Swerdlow posted:I’m glad that the Alberta government is give a hearty gently caress you to all of us. The rest of Canada needs to isolate AB and SK at this point, to the point that it hurts the UCP/Saskatchewan party muppets and they're forced to reverse course. Also for y'all's own safety, obviously. Kenney's gone full on loving nuts.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 15:08 |
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The costs decision for Ontario v. Working Families is finally published ie the campaign finance case that Doug Ford's government lost then overruled with the notwithstanding clause. Final cost to the taxpayer of that legal challenge: quote:I agree with the overall scale of costs proposed by counsel for the Attorney General. In keeping with the way that the Applicants organized their participation and in comparing their respective bills of costs, I would divide the costs in the following way (all figures inclusive of fees, disbursements, and HST): https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2021/2021onsc5178/2021onsc5178.html I feel like this is a real damaging piece of government waste to Conservatives, spread it far and wide.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 15:14 |
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PT6A posted:Kenney's gone full on loving nuts. This implies that there was a period where he was normal.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 15:19 |
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McGavin posted:This implies that there was a period where he was normal. There was a time when he was just normal incompetent, like Boris Johnson or something. Now he's the first politician to restrict testing to this degree (not even the CHUDs in the States have done that) and as far as I know, AB and SK are the first jurisdictions in the world to not require people positive for COVID to isolate.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 15:24 |
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https://twitter.com/jvipondmd/status/1420562172824883202 Stay Safe Calgary goons
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 16:04 |
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Another Bill posted:Stay Safe Calgary goons No!
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 17:08 |
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Randalor posted:Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Honest question. From what I understand it’s basically what anyone with a teaspoon of brain matter could have told you: yes, there are environmental activists opposing oil sands development and yes, that opposition has stopped development and “damaged” Alberta’s economy. These activists have even been receiving international funding like Kenney alleges. Amazingly, these activists are Canadians motivated by genuine ethical concerns about the environment and are not some secret hit squad on Alberta or its peoples. So it’s a bunch of wasted money on an “inquiry” to find out what everyone already knew; just to assuage Kenney’s persecution complex. And Kenney will likely cherry-pick poo poo from it to justify his bullshit.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 17:12 |
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B.C.'s south coast is under another heat warning, and with no rain since June 15th (!) things are starting to look grim for local ecosystems.CBC News posted:With no rain in parts of southern B.C. since June, salmon, crops struggle to survive I can't imagine that relocating salmon fry by hand is even remotely sustainable. There is no rain in the two week forecast. Unfortunately I think things are only going to get worse.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 17:12 |
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PT6A posted:There was a time when he was just normal incompetent, like Boris Johnson or something. Now he's the first politician to restrict testing to this degree (not even the CHUDs in the States have done that) and as far as I know, AB and SK are the first jurisdictions in the world to not require people positive for COVID to isolate. Kenney knows his political career is completely dead at this point and is fine with 2 more years of covid to distract while he smashes and grabs everything that's not nailed down. He's so loving shameless, the day he's out of office he's going to announce he's joining the board of whatever private medical company he gifted the hospitals to. e: JFC https://twitter.com/ABFedLabour/status/1420068232216539139 They lowered the minimum wage for students from $14/hr to $13/hour after already lowering it from the $15/hour for everybody else, and attached a $500 fine to not telling your employer you're a student so you can receive the lower minumum wage. Powershift fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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