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ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

"we're kind of like a big family" said every clueless, disconnected CEO and HR manager ever

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Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Space Kablooey posted:

Not sure if it's worse or better than that infamous it job posting

Not sure what you’re referring to, so please post it

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Not sure what you’re referring to, so please post it

Sorry I was on my phone and couldn't remember any specific details at the time.

Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy
don't rogues also steal and stab people

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Perfect for a career in corporate finance.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Biowarfare posted:

don't rogues also steal and stab people
I feel like all responses to questions like this should be met/justified with "Rogue!" like Charlie responding "Wildcard!" in The Gang Solves The Gas Crisis.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





I really wish there was a follow up on that Rogue position to see if any sucker took it and what it was like

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
On the topic of 'penny wise, pound foolish':

At my last job we mailed out thousands and thousands of license renewal notices every month. Every single payment we got back was at least $300. We had multiple all-department meetings to discuss complaints our manager was hearing from our mail room that every month a handful (maybe a dozen) of these letters would come back undeliverable, or be sent out without being stuffed properly due to an error.

Like ten people, each making at least $18/hour, listening to this over multiple meetings, over the waste of maybe $10-$20 worth of stamps per month. To send out notices which each brought in $300+.

They started requiring us to export our mailing list to Excel and have it pre-checked against USPS address verification before we mailed things out. Every month.

In addition, at one point management noticed that including pre-addressed return envelopes costs money. I pointed out that if NOT including a return envelope caused us to miss even ONE license payment, we would lose more money than what we spent on return envelopes.

They stopped ordering return envelopes.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

ben shapino posted:

"we're kind of like a big family" said every clueless, disconnected CEO and HR manager ever

Any time a business tells you they're a "family" it's likely an abusive environment. The Duggars are a family. Manson and Jim Jones had a family. "Family" means management and co-workers cross boundaries in ways not tolerated in any other environment.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
Is that rogue brewery?! Oh man I didn't realize they were that lovely :/ their beer isn't terrible

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

Space Kablooey posted:

Sorry I was on my phone and couldn't remember any specific details at the time.



IT Manager... not a $50k+ position... fuuuuuck

Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy

SubnormalityStairs posted:

IT Manager... not a $50k+ position... fuuuuuck

PLEASE don't apply

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

SubnormalityStairs posted:

IT Manager... not a $50k+ position... fuuuuuck

My managers title is 'Infrastructure Manager'. he gets paid about £4k more than I do & my moneys not that great.

I spend my day doing as little as possible & he has to run his arse ragged, I know which job I'd rather have.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Knowing the craft beer job market they probably got a live one for $18k and a promise he can stand at the side lines on brew day and pretend to help.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
Lol I just found out that a good third of our team is making 10-20k more than the rest of us because they have the same terminal degree as the boss

Like PharmDs making 10k more than PhDs or nurses when we all do the same type of work and have the same type of experience in this particular role

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

sephiRoth IRA posted:

Lol I just found out that a good third of our team is making 10-20k more than the rest of us because they have the same terminal degree as the boss

Like PharmDs making 10k more than PhDs or nurses when we all do the same type of work and have the same type of experience in this particular role

"I've got a PharmD, why the gently caress am I even here making as much as a nurse?"

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Volmarias posted:

"I've got a PharmD, why the gently caress am I even here making as much as a nurse?"

We all work for pharma, so the nurses are making much better cash compared to working in a hospital fwiw

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

goatface posted:

Perfect for a career in corporate finance.

No self respecting corpo rogue would accept a job that proudly proclaims it won't pay more than $50k though :smug:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
'I really love the 'Rouges are willing to shun titles and personal success in the pursuit of the greater good'

Like, maybe that would make sense if it was a charity or action group or something. But it's a loving brewpub. What public good?

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Outrail posted:

'I really love the 'Rouges are willing to shun titles and personal success in the pursuit of the greater good'

Like, maybe that would make sense if it was a charity or action group or something. But it's a loving brewpub. What public good?

The "greater good" of getting people thoroughly hammered, I guess.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

The greater good of buying the CEO a greater yacht.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Space Kablooey posted:

Sorry I was on my phone and couldn't remember any specific details at the time.



Oh gently caress yeah. This rules.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
•Rogues do it from behind.

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

I think a lot of the no monitor, spend thousands to save hundreds etc is you get what you measure.

There's no clear way to explain how spending $1000 on 10 new monitors actually increased profits. But it's easy to show you were under budget.

Same reason gutting r&d is the move over and over again.

Blah blah I saved 3 mil a year, thanks for the bonus. Jumps ship. The fact that the company starts to die due to lack of new products doesn't stick, already gone.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Automatic Slim posted:

Any time a business tells you they're a "family" it's likely an abusive environment. The Duggars are a family. Manson and Jim Jones had a family. "Family" means management and co-workers cross boundaries in ways not tolerated in any other environment.

Any time an organization tells you they're like a family, what it actually means is "Do what Mommy and Daddy say or Daddy gets his belt".

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

MD has a brainwave: desktops and laptops, are expensive, but thin clients are cheap, so lets replace all desktops and laptops with thin clients.

The project starts, it's a poo poo show, every beta tester complains that the clients are slow and poo poo, and productivity is down.

MD has committed to the project and has hung his hat on it, so he can't back down. "It'll be fine in Production."

Project goes live, it's a poo poo show. "Teething issues".

MD shows everyone that he's saved some millions of £ in desktop and laptop costs.

MD collects his bonus. MD fucks off to other pastures.

10+ years elapse, the thin clients are still poo poo.

New project starts to migrate everyone to laptops.

The pandemic happens.

Laptops project was deemed a success, thin clients are binned and never spoken of again.


How soon till the process repeats itself post the pandemic? I give it 5 years.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The circle of life.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
People get unreasonably upset if you say in meetings "We did X several years ago. Here are the good and the bad points. We then un-did it for the following reasons. If you want to re-do it, try to think of something new."

Especially if their response is "Well we'll do it better!" is met with "they said that last time too."

However, at the time I was an underpaid expert, so therefore annoying to fire and about 4x as long-lasting as the typical admin, so nothing came of it.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Space Kablooey posted:

Sorry I was on my phone and couldn't remember any specific details at the time.



Not bad if I can drink $50K worth of beer in a year for free

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Especially if you can do it while on the clock

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
We've been on Teams for a while but recently I've had some meetings on the calendar I don't always attend.

And Teams helpfully brings up a notification for every single chat message, on the laptop and on the phone. And beeps and vibrates to make sure I don't miss anything.

I'm sure there's a way to get it to shut up, but there's definitely no obvious way to do it, directly from the notification

Steakandchips posted:

MD has a brainwave: desktops and laptops, are expensive, but thin clients are cheap, so lets replace all desktops and laptops with thin clients.

The project starts, it's a poo poo show, every beta tester complains that the clients are slow and poo poo, and productivity is down.

MD has committed to the project and has hung his hat on it, so he can't back down. "It'll be fine in Production."

Project goes live, it's a poo poo show. "Teething issues".

MD shows everyone that he's saved some millions of £ in desktop and laptop costs.

MD collects his bonus. MD fucks off to other pastures.

10+ years elapse, the thin clients are still poo poo.

New project starts to migrate everyone to laptops.

The pandemic happens.

Laptops project was deemed a success, thin clients are binned and never spoken of again.


How soon till the process repeats itself post the pandemic? I give it 5 years.

Man a laptop is like $30 per employee per month and you don't have to pay Bezos anything, how much were they expecting to save?

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Go into the specific chat thread, right-click it and select "Mute" or something like that.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

mobby_6kl posted:

We've been on Teams for a while but recently I've had some meetings on the calendar I don't always attend.

And Teams helpfully brings up a notification for every single chat message, on the laptop and on the phone. And beeps and vibrates to make sure I don't miss anything.

I'm sure there's a way to get it to shut up, but there's definitely no obvious way to do it, directly from the notification

There might be a cord attached to the back of your computer, pull it out and it'll stop all the annoying distractions.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

mobby_6kl posted:

We've been on Teams for a while but recently I've had some meetings on the calendar I don't always attend.

And Teams helpfully brings up a notification for every single chat message, on the laptop and on the phone. And beeps and vibrates to make sure I don't miss anything.

I'm sure there's a way to get it to shut up, but there's definitely no obvious way to do it, directly from the notification

Man a laptop is like $30 per employee per month and you don't have to pay Bezos anything, how much were they expecting to save?

Change your status to "Do Not Disturb"

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Required to buy a single Mac (the only one in this branch of the company) and train someone on it for the sake of a single program with dozens of functionally-identical equivalents (many open-source) on Windows, because we gotta use enterprise software we paid for... for the computers nobody has or uses. Everything else they do works through Windows but they're now required to work in the Apple ecosystem instead, because I guess they can't have two computers like most of us with laptops do. IT has also not worked on Macs and are not happy.
absolutely proprietary

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Time to install some ransomware on their single point of failure.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Very light hints about permanent WFH on our conference call today. Boss basically said "we haven't heard anything about getting back to the office, now with this Delta variant stuff, we don't know, we're just following the health department" and some other light concessions. After he told us that he hasn't heard any official word yet I didn't want to come off too excited but I was like "gotcha" but inside I was jumping up and down like a child. I have said it before but I could probably work at this company and do this braindead-easy job for the next 50 years so long as they let me do it from the comfort of a company-bought Herman Miller chair. Maybe I'd even be able to get them to pay for my internet since it's used "for work".

Praying that right now the president of our OpCo is typing an email that says "We have decided to indefinitely continue the current work from home for teams working outside the office..." blah blah blah

ClothHat
Mar 2, 2005

ASK ME ABOUT MY LOVE OF THE LUMPEN-GOBLITARIAT
protip: trust no links I post
Got a new boss who can be a buffer between me and the awful CEO. I've worked with them in the past and good lord what a huge relief not having to report to the CEO anymore. We had a preexisting relationship so they've also shared that most of the other managers and all the other directors were similarly burnt out/on the verge of quitting so it also feels great to be vindicated that it wasn't just me not being able to work with this person.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

AHH F/UGH posted:

Maybe I'd even be able to get them to pay for my internet since it's used "for work".


I work for a federal research contractor who's usually very progressive and they have been exceptionally supportive of WFH throughout the pandemic and beyond.
But in a recent letter about our WFH future, the prospect of paying for Internet was nipped in the bud already. Paraphrasing: paying for your own internet is like paying for your own commute. Both are choices.

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Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy
I expense my work internet because it's a separate internet connection from my home internet.

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