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Fish of hemp posted:Everything on the prequels changes for the better when you take the perspective that Lucas is taking the piss out of all the loudmouthed fans. I mean, normally I'd be on board with that, but Lucas' approach is just so dishwater dull that the prequels are basically only worth watching for the SFX and nothing else (and even that depends on whether you enjoy watching a massive amount of CGI splashed on the screen).
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: Wow, Darth Vader must have always been a cool bad rear end space warrior!
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Splicer posted:Oh wow this is extremely good stuff. The only thing it kind of leaves on the table is why on earth did the queen lay a queen egg for Ripley when two regular alien eggs would have been absolutely better? I like the assembly cut of Alien 3 A LOT but even that version the whole opening just makes no drat sense. IIRC in the script when they see it on the scanner it's said to have the larger head crest a queen has but in every release version of the movie she just knows somehow.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:15
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I always just assumed they were like bees. If there's no queen, they raise a new one.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:25
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The one on the scanner does have a bit of a head crest. I swear I’ve seen photos of ADI’s prop that was used for the CAT scan scene, but I’m having trouble finding them.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:26
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Ghostnuke posted:I always just assumed they were like bees. If there's no queen, they raise a new one. That was kinda my thinking too. Or like, the Jurrassic park scenario where they're all female, but frog DNA lets some of them become male so they can breed. So like, if there's 10 Xenomorphs and no queen, one will eventually transform into a queen. Life.... finds a way....
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Fish of hemp posted:Everything on the prequels changes for the better when you take the perspective that Lucas is taking the piss out of all the loudmouthed fans. That's kind of why I liked Rogue One (despite it's many flaws). It was kind of a prequel, but the story didn't have a whole lot to do with the main trilogy other than it was mentioned in a throwaway line, so it was telling a story that was adjacent to the trilogy story, but didn't have enough to do with it that it ruined the mystique. (Plus it gave us Rampage Vader). And it didn't involve a whole bunch of established characters being put in situations that you already knew they were going to get out of because duh, they can't die in the prequel. I mean, sure, you know they succeed because otherwise the rebellion wouldn't have the Death Star plans and all that, but you didn't know who, if anyone was going to survive. I would rather see more Star Wars, or Alien adjacent stories than straight prequels/sequels. Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 20:46
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Jay_Zombie posted:That's kind of why I liked Rogue One (despite it's many flaws). It was kind of a prequel, but the story didn't have a whole lot to do with the main trilogy other than it was mentioned in a throwaway line, so it was telling a story that was adjacent to the trilogy story, but didn't have enough to do with it that it ruined the mystique. (Plus it gave us Rampage Vader). And it didn't involve a whole bunch of established characters being put in situations that you already knew they were going to get out of because duh, they can't die in the prequel. We did know that Manny Bothans was going to die though.
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Jay_Zombie posted:That was kinda my thinking too. That was the absolute fuckin dumbest part of JP. SOME frogs can change gender in certain circumstances and you goddamn morons couldn't bother to do the homework?
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Jul 29, 2021 20:51
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That was the absolute fuckin dumbest part of JP.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:59
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Xenomrph posted:That was kind of the point though - John Hammond’s park cut a ton of corners and didn’t think anything through, despite Hammond repeatedly saying he “spared no expense”. He underpaid his IT to the point that they actively sabotaged his park, the guests could override the safety bars on the introduction ride, the tour cars didn’t have locks on the doors, there was no way to get some of the dinosaurs to be visible to the guests during the tour, the park had random poisonous plants for the dinosaurs to eat that were chosen because they “looked good”, the raptors were dangerous to the point that they had to be kept in special containment where the guests couldn’t even see them, and the park failsafes weren’t tested to see if switching them off wouldn’t cause a catastrophic system failure. Of course his geneticists half-assed their job and didn’t think it through.
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Xenomrph posted:Eh I dunno, I liked ‘Solo’ For as much as I complain about it being Han's Best Weekend EVAR!®, I'd personally put it in my top half, third, I dunno... of those crazy Star Wars. I would also KILL to see the Lord Miller cut/version, like thinking about what could have been if they had let Neill Blomkamp loose on Alienses.
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I’d love to see Blomkamp direct a straight adaptation of Aliens Labyrinth, I think he’d knock that out of the park.
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Sunswipe posted:I think the xenos having evolved somewhere is a far more terrifying thought. What sort of ecosystem would produce something like that? What sort of defenses have the other species on that planet developed? What if xenomorphs aren't the top of the food chain on that planet? These all seem to me to lead to far more interesting film possibilities than Ridley Scott's half-assed ruminations on gods. Read Octavia Butler's short story Bloodchild, it's basically an examination of the intermixed familial structures of human colonists and the sentient parasitic centipedes that use them for hosts
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Has there ever been a good prequel? Fast 5  Also Better Call Saul if we're including TV.
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Jul 29, 2021 21:33
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Oh yeah, Final Destination 5, too.
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Jul 29, 2021 21:42
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AFewBricksShy posted:We did know that Manny Bothans was going to die though. Did they though? I haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember there being a whole lot of these guys hanging around. 
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Jul 29, 2021 22:27
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it's way dumber than you think. they took that line "many bothans died" and turned it into an actual character "Manny Bothans"
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Jul 29, 2021 22:29
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Splicer posted:The film screwed it up by trying to make Hammond a sympathetic figure. The book is a lot more explicit about him being Dinosaurs Elon Musk. Book John Hammond would absolutely have removed safety markings because he didn't like yellow. My favorite part of the book was "blowing up Velociraptors with goddamn rocket launchers instead of ineffectively shooting at them with a 12 gauge which is then discarded because smarty pants PHD Dr. Grant is too stupid to clear a simple stovepipe malfunction". And also when Hammond gets eaten Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 22:31
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I don't think Michael Fassbender can really palm a basketball
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Ghostnuke posted:it's way dumber than you think. they took that line "many bothans died" and turned it into an actual character "Manny Bothans" Ahhhh, that's some good Star Wars'n right there. Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 22:33
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Ghostnuke posted:it's way dumber than you think. they took that line "many bothans died" and turned it into an actual character "Manny Bothans" To be fair they did that in one of the intentional-joke Tag & Bink comics.
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Jul 29, 2021 22:36
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AFewBricksShy posted:We did know that Manny Bothans was going to die though. That upset me about Rogue One because instead of Bothans dying to get the plans it was a white girl.  I got an email yesterday from RedBubble (shirt place) saying that the order I placed a few weeks ago never went through. I forgot about it. Well they sent me a 15% off code so I reordered a Nostromo shirt and a WY Building Better Worlds shirt. 
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Jul 29, 2021 22:38
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Pennywise the Frown posted:That upset me about Rogue One because instead of Bothans dying to get the plans it was a white girl. A white girl stole the first DeathStar plans, Bothans stole the plans for the second one in Return of the Jedi.
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Jul 29, 2021 22:39
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wontondestruction posted:I don't think Michael Fassbender can really palm a basketball Remember when Ripley 8 caught a basketball one handed without even spreading her fingers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0GNKQQPHNU&t=78s I mean, I got giant rear end bananas hands, and I can palm a basketball pretty easily, but not without spreading my fingers and thumb way out.
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To star wars' limited credit, that character is a parody character in a comic: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Manuel_Both-Hanz
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Jul 29, 2021 22:41
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Jay_Zombie posted:Remember when Ripley 8 caught a basketball one handed without even spreading her fingers? https://youtu.be/FF44YvDVP8Y
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Xenomrph posted:A white girl stole the first DeathStar plans, Bothans stole the plans for the second one in Return of the Jedi. Ah, forgot it was the 2nd one.
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All of David's research into Shaw and human/alien hybrid and birth was so he could palm a basketball without spreading his fingers but it took hundreds of years for human technology to catch up to his vision in Alien Resurrection.
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Xenomrph posted:Of course, I've read all of them. Just finished Criminal Enterprise. I like that one a lot!
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Mutant Headcrab posted:I've been assembling plastic aliens from the boardgame. Thinking about aliens as I'm building aliens. I built the marines first. Naturally I was thinking of the aliens that would kill most of them the whole time.
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Xenomrph posted:Not nearly as good as her over the shoulder basketball shot. Yeah but she actually did that. The awkward closed fingered palm catch... I don't think she actually did that. Pearlman's face tho..... big stupid grin and then..... "I hosed up!".
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Did anyone say Rise/Dawn/War of/for The Planet of the Apes yet? Those are good prequels
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Iron Crowned posted:Did anyone say Rise/Dawn/War of/for The Planet of the Apes yet? Apes together.... strong.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That was the absolute fuckin dumbest part of JP. Lysine contingency is dumber
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Lysine contingency is dumber ok, but they hosed that up too lol
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Iron Crowned posted:Did anyone say Rise/Dawn/War of/for The Planet of the Apes yet? Those movies own, the more I think about it the more I'm surprised Hollywood dropped second and third installments that were so good. I appreciated how like the old movies, they could have each dealt with the exact same themes over and over again but each one does approaches the material differently and brings new stuff to the table without ever feeling unfocused.
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ive always been bad at recognizing actors from one film to another but im watching t2 and i just realized the mom is vasquez from aliens
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Maya Fey posted:ive always been bad at recognizing actors from one film to another but im watching t2 and i just realized the mom is vasquez from aliens She also plays one of the Irish third-class passengers in ‘Titanic’. James Cameron likes reusing actors. 
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Has anyone in the comics or novels etc., ever gotten face-hugged and produced twins? Triplets? Some kinda octo-mom poo poo but xenos?
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