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I have to imagine another part of it is Visser Three going "You have failed me for the last time." Especially when the failure in question was his. Guy's got one hell of an ego, and I imagine he doesn't take setbacks gracefully. Or just scapegoats some minion to avoid blame from higher up.
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Chapter 27quote:It took two more days for us to get home. We hid out on trains and trucks. We flew. We enjoyed the warmth. So that's our first ghostwritten book done. What did you think? Could you tell it wasn't Applegate? Did you like it? Personally, I thought it was intense...both the severe physical conditions, and what happened with the Venber. I think there was a definite sense of sadness to the book, of all thinks. But at least we got Derek, who was cool. Next book is a Jake book...."The Attack". Epicurius fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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I remember the Attack being one of my favorites when I was growing up. Excited to revisit it!
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 04:37 |
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Epicurius posted:[b]Chapter 27 Yeah, I ended this still not sure if I'd read it. That's the first time I couldn't remember anything that happened, from beginning to end. I didn't think it was bad as a ghostwritten book. Marco hardly seemed Flanderized to me. This upcoming book is also the last non-ghostwritten book (with a single exception) until the very end of the series. And it's one that I absolutely remember reading.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 07:05 |
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I like this book a lot but 26 absolutely rocks. That, 27 and 29 are real high points of the series.Epicurius posted:It took two more days for us to get home. We hid out on trains and trucks. We flew. We enjoyed the warmth. I remember this bit and always really liked it. Like, after everything they've been through for more than a year now, they just get to have this little roadtrip, camping out in freight boxcars, not having to worry about the Yeerks, not having to worry about anything except getting home. Just chilling.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 08:33 |
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Yeah, as the start of the ghostwritten books, this one's pretty near the top. Everyone's largely in character (yeah, Marco's a little overwritten, but not so much that it stands out when reading this at age 11 or whatever), solid plot, important stakes. It's good.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 14:13 |
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Yeah, if you hadn't mentioned it beforehand, I doubt I would have been able to tell that this is the first ghostwritten book. Though there are telltale signs, such as the lack of thermals or that the Animorphs actually successfully finished the mission they set out to do. Then again, they just randomly jumped into the bladeship with zero idea where to go or what to do, so that is pretty on brand. Also, is this the first time they use the Chee as decoys for longer missions? Because I vaguely remember that becoming a recurring thing. e X fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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I apologize. We're going to have to start the new book tomorrow.
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# ? Jul 27, 2021 05:27 |
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e X posted:Also, is this the first time they use the Chee as decoys for longer missions? Because I vaguely remember that becoming a recurring thing. It definitely is and does. There's a great joke later where Marco is telling Erek how he wants his decoy Chee to finish his maths assignment and ask out a girl that he's been too nervous to, or something, and Erek is like "he'll be sure to do that while also holding down his fulltime job as a restaurant manager"
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# ? Jul 27, 2021 06:34 |
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The Animorphs: Book 26-The Attack This book was written by Applegate herself! Prologue quote:The dream came again. As real as it always was. If you go back to Book 6, Chapter 24, those are the events of that chapter. Also, have I mentioned Applegate is a LOTR fan? Chapter 1 quote:My name is Jake. Sometimes, when you're at a performance, time stretches out and you feel like it's stopped. I'm sure that's all this is. Also, the Lion King musical came out in 1997. Also, the wasps that lay their eggs inside a caterpillar are real. Jake's not just making it up. The most famous type of wasps that do this are the ichneumon wasps, For my mind, though, the freakier wasps are Glyptapanteles wasps, which also lay their eggs inside a caterpillar. The larvae of this type of wasp feed on the caterpillar, but don't actually kill it. Instead when they're ready, they burst out, but one or two stay inside and crawl into its brain, mind controlling the caterpillar. It stands guard over the cocoons of the wasps, actually attacking anything that comes close (including anything that might feed on the now helpless larvae. Once they mature, the caterpillar dies of exhaustion and starvation. The icheneumon wasp was one of the things that made Darwin question creationism. There's a famous quote attributed to him that goes "“I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars.”" No wonder this series points out that Earth is one of the most dangerous worlds that different aliens come across. eta: Sorry about the formatting problem originally. Fixed. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Ooh, my last book! And it's definitely a good one! As for book #25, I don't think it was very good. It's not terrible, just mediocre, and I can see why I didn't remember that I had read it. There's a lot of chapters that can basically be summed up as "we're cold and lost" and the Venbar, which are the one of the big unique things in the book, kind of fade away. The Animorphs defeat them more by accident than anything clever.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 04:19 |
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26 is great, very excited for this!
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 06:03 |
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I think KA Applegate (and hopefully the other writers) are getting better at plowing through that initial "here's what Animorphs is" narration and getting into the meat of things sooner. In earlier books it feels like you'd be two or three chapters in before you got into the meat of the plot, and that's a lot when the books are like 100 pages long.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 07:47 |
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Epicurius posted:not all Yeerks
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 10:22 |
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Hell yeah, this book. One of my all-time faves as a kid
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 15:15 |
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Oh poo poo is this the introduction to Crayak? I don't think I ever read it so I kinda had the most context for him from Elfangor's Secret and The Ellimist Chronicles.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 22:28 |
As soon as we got the EYE intro I remembered this book.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 03:51 |
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Chapter 2quote:Slowly, cautiously, I stood up. Honestly, I know the Ellimist is on the side of good and all, but he's also extremely annoying. Also, Jake is at the point where he can distinguish "fear of an omnipotent being" from "fear of being murdered". This was not my experience at 14. Chapter 3 quote:The Ellimist looked down at the girl’s hands. “Once we had hands. Not much different from these.” He smiled. “But that was a long time ago. Almost a billion of your years. So, the mechanical eye has a name now....Crayak. And he's interested in Jake. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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I'd also be worried about the notion that there's a Bigger Fish still out there.
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Chapter 4quote:Stars, stars everywhere! Bright white points that burned with a steady light, and closer, so much closer, huge, sky-filling cauldrons of blazing hot gases. Do you think the Ellimist would be a good three card monte dealer? I mean, they always give you a choice too. Chapter 5 quote:We sat through the rest of The Lion King. Seemed kind of dull after the special effects show the Ellimist had put on for us. So,. what's everyone thinking?
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 04:35 |
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The immediate thought is either that the humans have some tactic that hardened Andalite warriors would never consider, or he's pulling the information play again: other groups could win, but only the humans would benefit from what they experience.
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Epicurius posted:
That their 7th will somehow be Visser 3 even if Erek makes way way more sense.
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Epicurius posted:And when he had twisted time to return Elfangor from his happy life, hiding as a human, to a world of struggle, pain, and ultimately death as an Andalite warrior. Isn't this is the first time the Animorphs know that? No one seems to react. Tobias just found out in 23, and he didn't tell them then, right?
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Fuschia tude posted:Isn't this is the first time the Animorphs know that? No one seems to react. Tobias just found out in 23, and he didn't tell them then, right? He didn't tell them in the book. He might have told them sometime between books, though.
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Epicurius posted:He didn't tell them in the book. He might have told them sometime between books, though. It seems like a weird thing to elide. I guess this gets back to how quickly these books were written.
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That's a good point. It's surprising there aren't more glaring continuity errors, really.Fuschia tude posted:It seems like a weird thing to elide. I guess this gets back to how quickly these books were written.
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 06:32 |
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That line from Marco about watching Rachel and Cassie fight in bikinis was little off brand for him, he's always talking about girls and flirting but seeing him "leer" while talking about Cassie felt weird. I know I've read this one but I don't remember anything other than always picturing the Howlers as those creepy shrieking cyborg kids from a scifi movie at around that time. Obviously they're gonna do it or there's no plot for the book and they don't have any leverage over the Ellimist to force him to reveal whether or not the game and it's terms are going to help them or not. I wonder what makes them decide to go.
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Ravenfood posted:That their 7th will somehow be Visser 3 even if Erek makes way way more sense. This would be pretty amazing
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 07:45 |
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Bobulus posted:or he's pulling the information play again: other groups could win, but only the humans would benefit from what they experience. My money's on that the humans are going to pass on information or help the Iskoort in a way that Andalites wouldn't think of. If I had to guess, I'd say that seven Andalite warriors would see a war. They'd be warriors, and act like warriors. The Animorphs are not. They're sneaky, they're idealistic, they know intimately how little they know. I'm guessing that that's going to be what matters more, not any question of raw power or battle experience.
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Cythereal posted:My money's on that the humans are going to pass on information or help the Iskoort in a way that Andalites wouldn't think of. If I had to guess, I'd say that seven Andalite warriors would see a war. They'd be warriors, and act like warriors. The Animorphs are not. They're sneaky, they're idealistic, they know intimately how little they know. I'm guessing that that's going to be what matters more, not any question of raw power or battle experience. Yeah I think it will be something like this. I actually don't think the Andalites would beat the Howlers directly, and I don't think the Animorphs can either.
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pile of brown posted:That line from Marco about watching Rachel and Cassie fight in bikinis was little off brand for him, he's always talking about girls and flirting but seeing him "leer" while talking about Cassie felt weird. I agree, doesn't sound like Marco. It sounds ripped off of Friends if anything, they must have used that joke 50 times about Monica and Rachel. Could explain it by saying Marco watched that and repeated the joke to sound cool without really getting that it's creepy. We know he watches Friends because he named the skunks after them.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I agree, doesn't sound like Marco. It sounds ripped off of Friends if anything, they must have used that joke 50 times about Monica and Rachel. Could explain it by saying Marco watched that and repeated the joke to sound cool without really getting that it's creepy. quote:Typically, it was Marco who decided, after his first shift guarding the skunks, that the kits needed names. ????????????
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 17:05 |
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Welp, I completely misremembered that one then
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 17:15 |
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The dolphins that they acquired from The Gardens in The Message (where they discover Ax and Jesus whale shows up) were named after the characters from Friends.
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Chapter 6quote:“Ooookay,” Marco said. “I felt that chill go up my spine.” The Ellimist and Creyak don't fool aroumd, do they? There's no "I need some time to find a friend to catsit." or anything. And even though Erek is programmed not to do violence, his stake in this is, in a lot of ways the biggest of them all. Chapter 7 quote:“Who invented this place, Dr. Seuss?” Marco demanded. So, that's the Iskoort. Charming people, huh? You know, even with that description, I don't think I could draw an Iskoort. Fortuntely, there are people at Deviant Art more clever than I am. Here's an Iskoort, courtesy of Deviantartist Monster-Man-08.
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# ? Jul 31, 2021 07:03 |
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This is great science fiction. I love this book so much, I think this might be my favorite Animorph book.
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# ? Jul 31, 2021 07:11 |
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I know its not accurate to the description but I always imagine the Iskoort as the worm guys from Men in Black, they have a similar vibe to me.
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# ? Jul 31, 2021 09:21 |
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Chapter 8quote:The negotiation was not pretty. So, I get the impression that the Iskoort are pretty hypercapitalist, and anything is for sale in this city. Also, they've never invented OSHA. Chapter 9 quote:I was down, flat on my back, a weight on my chest. A bony head, stubby horns protruding from the top, was just above mine. So after a fake Howler sighting, we're about to get a real one.
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# ? Aug 1, 2021 05:12 |
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I like that Tobias is the first one to twig that they're dealing with the Ellimist, because he's had the most dealings with him, and that we get a little aside about how Rachel is still sore about Tobias not getting to be human again even though Tobias isn't. These books can be so focused on the narrator's personal deal sometimes that it's nice when the other character's deals rear their head. (And Jake's Deal is that he's the leader, but it's also neat that his relevance to this book is that he was a Controller and thus saw Crayak, which could have happened to any of them.) Also KA is usually really good at names but Crayak sucks. Sounds too much like Crayola. Epicurius posted:Ax shook his head. It’s a habit he’s picked up from us. Fun fact: this is definitely a trait he's picked up from humans, because it's common to most human cultures and develops from infants turning their head away from the nipple when they don't want to breastfeed. I assume nodding your head for yes is also near-universal simply because it's the opposite of that. Pwnstar posted:I know its not accurate to the description but I always imagine the Iskoort as the worm guys from Men in Black, they have a similar vibe to me. As a kid I saw the word "accordion" and inevitably simply imagined them as the accordion character from an Australian kids' TV show that was on at the time:
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Also I'll spoiler tag it for those who don't want to see it (though I think we're about to see the scene it depicts) but this book has probably the craziest inside cover of the entire series:
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