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Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


The ending of the game Yakuza 4 is hilarious for how many cliches they rattle in quick succession.

The defeated bad guy is surrounded by the good guys. They neglect to deprive the bad guy of his gun.

He shoots a good guy in the chest.

The good guy had a bundle of money in his chest-pocket, stopping the bullet.

The good guys leave the bad guy on the floor next to his gun, again.

The bad guy shoots himself to avoid custody.

Not to mention the other bad guy is betrayed by his henchman who shoots him. The henchman says he's pledged his loyalty to a third bad guy. The third bad guy promptly shoots the henchman.

Of course it turns out the other bad guy was wearing a bulletproof vest and, because the good guys neglect to take his gun, he manages to shoot dead a good guy's loved-one.

If anyone practiced proper gun-safety in this series the hero would have a lot less dead sidekicks.

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Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Torquemada posted:

Reminding me of the opening action scene in Cobra to establish the titular character’s badassness: despite having the bad guy cornered at gunpoint, Detective Cobra puts his gun away. When the villain makes to shoot him, Cobra has the time to throw a switchblade into him, re-draw his gun, and shoot the guy five times. He has like three one-liners in this scene alone.

One day, someone will be able to figure out if Cobra was an action movie or a satire of action movies. This is not that day. :(

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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exquisite tea posted:

Similarly in action movies where the opponents start with a gun, then the second it gets knocked away they both forget about them entirely and start fistfighting. I would just... keep trying to shoot them with the gun, ya know.

Alternatively, fistfight with the guns and have the best of both worlds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQJOr4Rx5k&t=17s

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Zaphod42 posted:

This is like a subset of the general "people saying things during an action scene which they wouldn't have time to say or that nobody would be able to hear" problem. Most one-liners fall into that category.

Movies do it all the time for the sake of the audience but it is super unrealistic.

This is why commando is the best action movie. They get called out for this in the motel fight scene

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Are you suggesting that demons can't work for the DMV? :colbert:

someone hasn't seen Reaper

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Len posted:

Has anyone watched Caveat? A YouTuber I watch has been getting paid to talk Shudder and it sounded okay? It's on my list to check out the next time I spring for a month of the service but if it's unwatchable and bad I'll skip it

I actually had it on my amc+ subscription - about half an hour in and it's pretty good. A little strange but I'd say it's definitely watchable. Nothing really irritating yet but this guy must really need that 200 bucks a day, because even though nothing too bad has really happened yet, it's a pretty big "caveat". I would have been out of there the first time the haunted kangaroo drum toy started its nonsense

edit: started to lose me a bit in the middle but it picked up again toward the end.

these two guys are way too chill about getting shot with crossbow bolts. Both of them just kind of stare in surprise at the girl. I'd at least say "hey, what'd you do that for?" or "ow", at least

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
So I love Prince but Purple Rain is not a particularly good film outside of the musical numbers even though I still like it. Thing is...

Prince is shown living in his parents' basement and never has a job in the entire movie.

It's implied he's perhaps(?) on the cusp of stardom but I doubt the revenue from First Avenue gigs spread around 5 or 6 band members amounts to much. He and his band are never shown being signed to a record label or anything. So where did he get the custom motorcycle, all the makeup and all these bitching sequin laden clothes? For the entire group? Adding a thrift store scene, a yard sale raid or even showing Prince rooting through his mother's closet might have added something.

The other thing that cracks me up about it is that every number he does brings down the loving house but the club manager is always on his rear end about how his stuff is lame and no one is into it or understands any of this weird music or some poo poo, as if he just completely sucks out loud. I can see The Time blowing him off the stage (because that really happened on several occasions) but we're supposed to believe that Appolonia Six totally owned the crowd and threatened Prince's status, given what we just saw and heard with Computer Blue, The Beautiful Ones or Let's Go Crazy?

Lastly, the chalk line around his dad after the attempted suicide even though the father lived is pretty funny and I only recently just caught that mistake. Supposedly, they re-wrote the ending and made it so the dad survived and also added the hospital scene but forgot to remove the chalk line apparently.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Elissimpark posted:

Alright, time to go murd...BATEGNU? Oh goddammit.

Whelp, time to switch to a career jerking off ungulates.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Watched modok on Hulu, and it really bugged me that the entire finale setup and hook for season 2 was time travel, and how he's tried millions of times to work out how to do it specifically so he could go back and save his family, when they show him literally walkfloat past the infinity gauntlet on the wall, complete with time gem.

Kinda figured a dude who's 90% brain might have noticed but nope.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Memento posted:

Jeepers Creepers from 2001 was good for that, if not much else. The Plucky Teenaged Protags run into the Impervious Mad Slasher in their Impala, knocking him down. Then they back over him again. Then drive over him forward again. Then back over him again. Then one more time forward before making their escape.

Mad Slasher isn't dead, of course

Another example is the norwegian horror movie Cold Prey 2. The killer is shot with a shotgun and protagonist is like "let's shoot him a couple of times more, just to be sure".

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Sunswipe posted:

One day, someone will be able to figure out if Cobra was an action movie or a satire of action movies. This is not that day. :(

I remember Roger Ebert reviewing Cobra and saying, "this movie has Stallone's best scene in bed." Cut to...clip of Sly in the back of a pickup truck firing a sub machine gun

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

The problem there is they didn't check. You have to keep going until it's paste, and then make sure the paste doesn't start reassembling into something.

They didn't have time to do all that, they heard the director coming.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Alternatively, fistfight with the guns and have the best of both worlds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQJOr4Rx5k&t=17s

Man, when I haven’t seen equilibrium in a while I wonder why I ever liked that movie; then I see equilibrium and remember why I love that movie.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Watched modok on Hulu, and it really bugged me that the entire finale setup and hook for season 2 was time travel, and how he's tried millions of times to work out how to do it specifically so he could go back and save his family, when they show him literally walkfloat past the infinity gauntlet on the wall, complete with time gem.

Kinda figured a dude who's 90% brain might have noticed but nope.

He's a machine designed only for killing, not a machine designed only for noticing.

ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012

exquisite tea posted:

Similarly in action movies where the opponents start with a gun, then the second it gets knocked away they both forget about them entirely and start fistfighting. I would just... keep trying to shoot them with the gun, ya know.

The other action movie one for me is when two skilled people are fighting and they are evenly matched, then the bad guy takes out a knife. And pretty much instantly gets his rear end kicked more.
Now I'm not a special forces commando, but I'm pretty sure a knife is not a hindrance in hand to hand combat.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

exquisite tea posted:

Similarly in action movies where the opponents start with a gun, then the second it gets knocked away they both forget about them entirely and start fistfighting. I would just... keep trying to shoot them with the gun, ya know.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I do recall some fights with characters brutally fighting over a single gun. I'm sure at least one ends with it turning out to be empty.

Yeah I was gonna say on the flipside a lot of good action scenes do involve two people beating each other up trying to grab the gun that's fallen to the ground.

I always especially liked those tense moments when you have a gun or knife and both people are grappling and trying to turn it on each other. Like arm wrestling to the death.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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There are a few movies where a newly rich person hires an interior decorator (wall street, brewster's millions, blank check) and we're supposed to be impressed at how weird the rich people decorate their place, but it's all hideous, even by 80s/early 90s standards. Especially wallstreet - his apartment looked like a child with some arts and craft supplies decorated it. I'd pay not to live there.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Sunswipe posted:

One day, someone will be able to figure out if Cobra was an action movie or a satire of action movies. This is not that day. :(

Ah yes, 80’s roids and coke Stallone whose ego ran like a train over the entire cast and crew: a shoot notorious divided his time on the film between loving Brigitte Nielsen and overriding the director. Satire was not on the menu.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Stallone's not clever enough for satire. I think he enjoys doing dumb poo poo like eating pizza with scissors and I'm sure he can acknowledge that it's stupid, but he's not clever.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




yeah I eat rear end posted:

There are a few movies where a newly rich person hires an interior decorator (wall street, brewster's millions, blank check) and we're supposed to be impressed at how weird the rich people decorate their place, but it's all hideous, even by 80s/early 90s standards. Especially wallstreet - his apartment looked like a child with some arts and craft supplies decorated it. I'd pay not to live there.

I've seen enough interior design shows and enough products of real interior designers to know that's 100% true to life.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

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Illegal Hen
I find it fascinating that modern high end interior design is about being as minimalist as possible when the average person likes showing off all their stuff.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Alternatively, fistfight with the guns and have the best of both worlds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQJOr4Rx5k&t=17s

The latest animated Resident Evil movie, of all things (Vendetta, I think) has a really good fight scene where two characters each have guns and are trying to shoot each other in close quarters.


Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbcTtbXnOCo

That movie actually has some pretty good fight scenes, including one where the heroes take on rooms full of zombies like they're John Wick, spinning around with quick movements and takedowns.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Man, when I haven’t seen equilibrium in a while I wonder why I ever liked that movie; then I see equilibrium and remember why I love that movie.

I hated equilibrium because one guy I knew would run around yelling sense offence (I think?) At everyone until we watched it with him.

Fingerless Gloves
May 21, 2011

... aaand also go away and don't come back

ianmacdo posted:

The other action movie one for me is when two skilled people are fighting and they are evenly matched, then the bad guy takes out a knife. And pretty much instantly gets his rear end kicked more.
Now I'm not a special forces commando, but I'm pretty sure a knife is not a hindrance in hand to hand combat.

When I was doing jujitsu I was told about this, when somebody has a weapon they will focus on using it as opposed to their whole body and basically lose some fighting ability.

Just sounded like sensei wanted us to get stabbed

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Fingerless Gloves posted:

When I was doing jujitsu I was told about this, when somebody has a weapon they will focus on using it as opposed to their whole body and basically lose some fighting ability.

Just sounded like sensei wanted us to get stabbed

Elderly Korean man who taught martial arts and could beat the ever living crap out of anyone younger and larger if needed was asked what to do when someone has a knife or gun on you, he said, "What ever they tell you to."

Hattie Masters
Aug 29, 2012

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In Masters of the Universe: Revalation, at one point Teela and her sidekick who's name i forget are discussing going to Preternia and Subternia. These are, to put it bluntly, heaven and hell. However, the sidekick outright says "oh we're going to Heaven and Hell?" and it's just why the hell do you need this explaining? You live in this world, you should know what Preternia and Subternia are. They wouldn't even have those terms, because they are completely superfluous if Preternia and Subternia already exist

the answer is kevin smith thinks we're idiots and is catholic i get it

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

yeah I eat rear end posted:

Alternatively, fistfight with the guns and have the best of both worlds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQJOr4Rx5k&t=17s

Holy poo poo this is cringeworthy. What the gently caress.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Uh, actually its :krad:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Stallone's not clever enough for satire. I think he enjoys doing dumb poo poo like eating pizza with scissors and I'm sure he can acknowledge that it's stupid, but he's not clever.

He did get tricked by Arnie into starring in 'Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot'.

Hattie Masters posted:

In Masters of the Universe: Revalation, at one point Teela and her sidekick who's name i forget are discussing going to Preternia and Subternia. These are, to put it bluntly, heaven and hell. However, the sidekick outright says "oh we're going to Heaven and Hell?" and it's just why the hell do you need this explaining? You live in this world, you should know what Preternia and Subternia are. They wouldn't even have those terms, because they are completely superfluous if Preternia and Subternia already exist

the answer is kevin smith thinks we're idiots and is catholic i get it

It might make sense if it was Orko, who's specifically not originally from Eternia.

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Speaking of guns in movies - the thing where two people fight over a gun (or knife) and are right up against each other and you hear the shot, but don't see who was killed for a moment.

Yeah, that poo poo was played out 50 years ago and I don't know where we're still seeing that contrived bullshit now.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

RCarr posted:

Holy poo poo this is cringeworthy. What the gently caress.

That's the worst choreographed fight scene in the movie cause not-Bale seems really bad at action scenes. The whole movie is dumb as bricks, but in the cheesiest possible way; and everything is stylized in a form over substance thing. And I love it.

For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3BsAAO8JI

Like in a John Woo gunfight, being over the top is the point. The very idea of Gun-kata (movements that maximize the chance of hitting an enemy while minimising the return fire %) operates on the "you missed me cause I have an invisible shield" playground rules, and the whole movie is built around the same logic. The fact that the story backdrop is basically a 1984 super bleak/minimalist future fascist dystopia makes it even more insane.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Torquemada posted:

Ah yes, 80’s roids and coke Stallone whose ego ran like a train over the entire cast and crew: a shoot notorious divided his time on the film between loving Brigitte Nielsen and overriding the director. Satire was not on the menu.

It’s an amazing movie. So there’s this underground supremacist cult who keep killing random people, because “they are weak and only the strongest and smartest people deserve to rule”. Yet this seems mostly to involve ambushing one unsuspecting person with multiple people. Like a waitress at a diner who is closing up shop, late at night. And somehow they keep getting away with it, because the police has no idea what is going on.

Brigitte Nielsen catches a glimp of the leader of this cult as she is passing by with a car. So they track her via the car plates, ambush her in a parking garage... and gently caress up. Yes, these amazing serial killers have the advantage and they still blow their shot.

Now she is in the hospital and the police are aware of her. Cult leader dude tries to infiltrate with a disguise to kill her. Fails.

Brigitte Nielsen gets taken outside of town to hide in a motel. But there’s an insider who gives away their location. Seemingly this whole cult arrives to take down this witness. About 30+ men arrive on motors with guns. Not subtle at all. These seemingly serial killers who killed dozens of people before without being noticed. Just because one person saw the face of their leader. This witness who wasn’t even in touch with the police until they first ambushed her and failed to kill her. Spoiler: they all die.

I said it was amazing movie before, but it’s so loving dumb that it’s an insult to the audience. Odds are your expectations were low to begin with, but you deserve to something more from your dumb ‘80s action movie.

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Hattie Masters
Aug 29, 2012

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

It might make sense if it was Orko, who's specifically not originally from Eternia.

It was not Orko, it was the human lady who isn't Evil-Lyn.

Also I think Orko makes a reference to a nursery rhyme from his home about Subternia? Idk there's the essence of something very good in MotU:R, buried under sub-par writing.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Mierenneuker posted:

It’s an amazing movie. So there’s this underground supremacist cult who keep killing random people, because “they are weak and only the strongest and smartest people deserve to rule”. Yet this seems mostly to involve ambushing one unsuspecting person with multiple people. Like a waitress at a diner who is closing up shop, late at night. And somehow they keep getting away with it, because the police has no idea what is going on.

To be fair that sounds a lot like libertarian/conservative social darwinism, which is always, ALWAYS pushed by the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth

Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


Wtf happened to pokemon?

I have an 8 year old staying with me and we just watched an episode where one of Ash's friends caught a literal evil god like pokemon that's called Eternus or something and everyone kept referring to as The Darkest Day.
In my days the most powerful pokemon were at least somewhat reasonable, big birds with elemental powers and psychic genetic experiments, not an angular eldritch being literally the size of a small city. Apparently you can dynamax (or something) pokemon to make them even bigger and more powerful now too.

I asked him if he could now fight gym trainers and enter tournaments with a literal god now and he said yeah, but I guess that won't happen for narrative reasons.

Goddamn, imagine training your regular rear end pokemon, being super proud you raised your little charmander to a powerful charizard so you can be competitive in a tournament, and this little 10 year old throws out a pokeball to release the harbinger of the apocalypse lol.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

That Italian Guy posted:

That's the worst choreographed fight scene in the movie cause not-Bale seems really bad at action scenes.

Excuse you, that's Angus Macfadyen, aka Robert the Bruce from Braveheart.

Taeke posted:

Wtf happened to pokemon?

Anime and bad decisions.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

To be fair that sounds a lot like libertarian/conservative social darwinism, which is always, ALWAYS pushed by the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth

The cult’s motivations are mostly mentioned by the guy holding hostages in the intro (before Cobra takes him down). If you didn’t see the intro, you would have no idea that these serial killers have any motives beyond some sort of addiction to killing people. You would also have no idea that this is cult that features more people that the trio you see on screen. You really wonder why there are dozens of people who suddenly show up in the finale of the movie.

Source: me, who watched the movie on TV a month ago and missed the intro. It’s not until I read the synopsis on wikipedia afterwards that the movie made a bit more sense (an incredibly tiny bit).

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The third Pokemon generation is about a pair of ecoterrorist groups who want to alter the geography of the earth using the Pokemon equivalents of Leviathan and Behemoth, and the fourth gen introduced the creator of the universe strongly implied to have been the target of a Scientology-esque Cthulhu cult whose founder wanted to use its power to remake the universe in his image. And that's like 20 years old by now and is getting a remake. Pokemon turning Kaiju-sized is a new gimmick but the rest is bog standard.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Taeke posted:

Wtf happened to pokemon?

I have an 8 year old staying with me and we just watched an episode where one of Ash's friends caught a literal evil god like pokemon that's called Eternus or something and everyone kept referring to as The Darkest Day.
In my days the most powerful pokemon were at least somewhat reasonable, big birds with elemental powers and psychic genetic experiments, not an angular eldritch being literally the size of a small city. Apparently you can dynamax (or something) pokemon to make them even bigger and more powerful now too.

I asked him if he could now fight gym trainers and enter tournaments with a literal god now and he said yeah, but I guess that won't happen for narrative reasons.

Goddamn, imagine training your regular rear end pokemon, being super proud you raised your little charmander to a powerful charizard so you can be competitive in a tournament, and this little 10 year old throws out a pokeball to release the harbinger of the apocalypse lol.

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Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Who wouldn’t want to have god in a master ball? Have some Pokedex entries for Arceus.


Diamond
It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.

Pearl
It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.

Platinum
It is told throughout ancient times in Sinnoh as the Pokémon who shaped Sinnoh and created heaven.

HeartGold / SoulSilver
According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.

Black / White
It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.

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