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I just watched the doc on Woodstock 99, and like yea, society had reached apex gross commercialization and this was also the start of really flaunting wealth, but trying to absolve lovely white guy rage turning into a riot as being societies fault is really off base. Also gently caress the promoters trying to say because a woman is walking around topless or naked she is asking to get raped. gently caress that poo poo right there. They also tried to defend the $4 water. Now that poo poo is funny. But the promoters basically never explain why they thought sticking poo poo like Limp Bizkit and Korn on a bill with more chill bands was a good idea. It almost seemed like they just watched MTV for an afternoon and decided to bring in whomever they saw. One attendiee has a good point how Boomers are always trying to get their kids and everyone else's kids to experience what they did because they think it was so great.
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twistedmentat posted:One attendiee has a good point how Boomers are always trying to get their kids and everyone else's kids to experience what they did because they think it was so great.
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Woodstock wasn’t even the first music festival Like everything else from the 60s that people won’t shut up about, it was already being done way better by communist theater queerdos in the 40s and 50s
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FilthyImp posted:I always got the feeling that Woodstock was a mess (muddy terrain, faulty amps) that happened to be re-evaluated because a lot of people had great hookups amidst a backdrop of good music and a variety of bands they might not have sought out themselves.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsq3eacP3E This is what 99.999% of Boomers (and everyone, tbh) actually "know" about Woodstock. I admire 99 Woodstock more because while it was poo poo top to bottom, it also couldn't hide and therefore didn't ultimately deny that fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h62RmIsx6MA mind the walrus has a new favorite as of 04:09 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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If you can get past the riots, and the fires, and various other bad poo poo, I bet woodstock 99 was a pretty dope party. I know a guy that got a handjob while kid rock was on stage.
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Aug 2, 2021 04:41
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:If you can get past the riots, and the fires, and various other bad poo poo, I bet woodstock 99 was a pretty dope party. bawitabaw indeed
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Kid Rock is one of the last things i want to associate with gettiny a handy.mind the walrus posted:It's even lamer than that. Woodstock was a marketing stunt first and foremost-- think a Fyre Festival where they actually managed to get bands to play and rich people weren't able to tweet about getting stuck at the airport. It was always designed to be a mythologized event more than an actual event. They hired a guy to make a documentary of it that was released in 1970 to $50 million box office (over $350 million today). Yea they talk about ths too, how boomers have mostly only seen the movie and think it was some amazing event, when like the army had to airlift supplies in. Also dudes from the Offspring seem cool, Noodles was wearing a Black Lives Matter shirt.
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I remember Woodstock '94 being pretty cool though, NIN got real muddy
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Shifty Nipples posted:I remember Woodstock '94 being pretty cool though, NIN got real muddy I bought the bootleg album "Mud Pigs" and Trent was right, they were fully in to it but they suuuuucked. Mud and grit in the guitars and keyboards and just terrible musicianship but awesome showmanship. One of those, "you had to be there" things
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RamonVillalobos/status/1078272245921808386 this thread about Woodstock 99 is incredible and everyone should read it
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Ok Comboomer posted:Woodstock wasn’t even the first music festival Do you have any actual evidence for this or
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Do you have any actual evidence for this or https://georgemckay.org/timeline-of-music-festivals-1950s/ https://www.udiscovermusic.com/in-depth-features/music-festivals-newport-woodstock/ folk and jazz festivals were a thing for a while pre-Woodstock, and there was a lot of crossover between that scene and the predecessors to happenings, gatherings, etc that liberal arts colleges and art collectives and communes were hosting since the early 20th century—it’s where dudes like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger built their careers and where dudes like Bob Dylan cut their teeth before becoming mainstream superstars do you think the boomers invented poo poo like druggy art parties or free love or getting a bunch of druggy free love enthusiasts to go listen to music in a field? trilobite terror has a new favorite as of 20:01 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:https://georgemckay.org/timeline-of-music-festivals-1950s/ Asking for evidence of a claim isn't the same as disagreeing with it or positing a counterclaim
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Ok Comboomer posted:https://georgemckay.org/timeline-of-music-festivals-1950s/ This having been the case does not make Woodstock any less significant. Nor have I ever heard anyone claim that Woodstock was "first."
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P sure "do you have evidence *OR*" implies an asspull so yeah it's likely to be met pretty snarkishlyPlastic_Gargoyle posted:This having been the case does not make Woodstock any less significant. Pretty  to come in with "no guys it was really special!" after a few people were talking about it being made into myth thanks to boomer-brains
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:This having been the case does not make Woodstock any less significant. I never said it wasn’t significant, but I’ve definitely heard people say that Woodstock “invented” music festivals, or bemoan the idea that contemporary festivals are especially “corporate” in a way that Woodstock wasn’t Heath posted:Asking for evidence of a claim isn't the same as disagreeing with it or positing a counterclaim pretty sure that’s how it was implied, given the “or...” at the end of the post
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Woodstock '69 postures when it was really the deathknell of hippie love culture, with Altamont stomping it out a couple months later. The Monterey Pop Festival in 67 was actually the rock festival during the summer of love that people think Woodstock was and it was explicitly just about being a pop/rock version of the long running Monterey Jazz Festivals. Every subsequent Woodstock being mismanaged disasters is just maintaining the original spirit.
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The Ringer did a good series on Woodstock 99 that's worth a read: https://www.theringer.com/break-stuff-woodstock-99
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Shocking news from the nostalgia thread today as 90s kids reach a unanimous verdict that 60s youth culture was "bullshit". Unhip boomer parents could not be reached for comment.
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Woodstock did have a movie made and released months after the festival which is how most boomers saw it, so they edited out all the bad poo poo. making GBS threads on the 60s was totally part of the 90s, because the unhip boomers who ran everything kept shoving Mike Love at us all the time.
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Shiroc posted:Woodstock '69 postures when it was really the deathknell of hippie love culture, with Altamont stomping it out a couple months later. The Monterey Pop Festival in 67 was actually the rock festival during the summer of love that people think Woodstock was and it was explicitly just about being a pop/rock version of the long running Monterey Jazz Festivals. I recall that Woodstock '94 did fine
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twistedmentat posted:Woodstock did have a movie made and released months after the festival which is how most boomers saw it, so they edited out all the bad poo poo. There was a mild hippy revival in the early 90s, right around when Jerry Garcia died.
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Wacky Delly posted:There was a mild hippy revival in the early 90s, right around when Jerry Garcia died. I kind of remember a mild 60s revival in the mid to late 90s too, mostly in girls fashion, at least at my junior high. Stuff like Austin Powers and the New Beetle had something to do with it, I'd think.
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Randallteal posted:Shocking news from the nostalgia thread today as 90s kids reach a unanimous verdict that 60s youth culture was "bullshit". Unhip boomer parents could not be reached for comment. I think my 00s American History high school class actually called out Woodstock as the moment hippy counterculture went mainstream. It's not really a hot take.
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mactheknife posted:I kind of remember a mild 60s revival in the mid to late 90s too, mostly in girls fashion, at least at my junior high. Stuff like Austin Powers and the New Beetle had something to do with it, I'd think. There was a bit of it tangentially tied to the Beatles doing their anthology thing in the mid ‘90s too iirc
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mactheknife posted:I kind of remember a mild 60s revival in the mid to late 90s too, mostly in girls fashion, at least at my junior high. Stuff like Austin Powers and the New Beetle had something to do with it, I'd think. If anything it was just out parents dreaming about the cultural event of their Freshman year of high school, and how music was the best ever back then, and how kids these days listen to rap music which isn't even music, like they had back at Woodstock
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I remember "The Wonder Years' being massively popular in junior high in the early 90's and some of that 60's revival fashion trend started around then.
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Sekhmnet posted:I remember "The Wonder Years' being massively popular in junior high in the early 90's and some of that 60's revival fashion trend started around then. Again our parents' youth
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Sekhmnet posted:I remember "The Wonder Years' being massively popular in junior high in the early 90's and some of that 60's revival fashion trend started around then. I remember thinking the clothes on that show looked awful. But the clothes we were wearing (that kids today are wearing ironically) were also awful.
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I mean that's the 30 year-cycle. We saw that last decade going strong with the 80s and we actually got a pretty early jump on the 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shSLPcp4C18
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Iron Crowned posted:I recall that Woodstock '94 did fine woodstock 94 absolutely did not do fine
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twistedmentat posted:Woodstock did have a movie made and released months after the festival which is how most boomers saw it, so they edited out all the bad poo poo. I watched the movie once. They hosed up thing is that they *didn't* edit out all of the bad poo poo. You see a bunch of drugged out lovely performances, people whining about the rain and leaving in huge numbers halfway through, the remaining people being bailed out by the military to get them food and then Hendrix performing to like <1000 people because everyone else had already left and massive piles of trash as far as the eye can see.
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Alaois posted:woodstock 94 absolutely did not do fine a bunch of sexual assaults and a literal poo poo fight=“doing fine” Sekhmnet posted:I remember "The Wonder Years' being massively popular in junior high in the early 90's and some of that 60's revival fashion trend started around then. all of Nick at Nite was super popular, basically required viewing at my elementary + middle schools. By the early 2000s N@N was a shadow of its former self tho
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Shiroc posted:I watched the movie once. They hosed up thing is that they *didn't* edit out all of the bad poo poo. You see a bunch of drugged out lovely performances, people whining about the rain and leaving in huge numbers halfway through, the remaining people being bailed out by the military to get them food and then Hendrix performing to like <1000 people because everyone else had already left and massive piles of trash as far as the eye can see. So they showed how it really was? Isn't that good in a way? Fake edit:: I just saw a commercial for the "new wonder years" literally as I was typing this post.
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:Fake edit:: I just saw a commercial for the "new wonder years" literally as I was typing this post.
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FilthyImp posted:If that show doesn't start with either Kurt Cobain's death OR the main typing https://www.boobs.com into AOL then it's trash! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koMKUP2o08w That's definitely the better call for a property as definitively Boomer as The Wonder Years. Also uh, don't read the comments. It's pure racism all the way down.
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FilthyImp posted:If that show doesn't start with either Kurt Cobain's death OR the main typing https://www.boobs.com into AOL then it's trash! I'm not offended by pornography. But thats a link to a porn site, just fyi.
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