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Chieves posted:In general that generation is probably the roughest to go back to nowadays though. I thought that too for a while but I’ve been having a lot of fun playing 5th gen games lately. I think it’s because since I’m so far removed from that era now that I can appreciate them in a different light.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I thought that too for a while but I’ve been having a lot of fun playing 5th gen games lately. I think it’s because since I’m so far removed from that era now that I can appreciate them in a different light. much like the 2600, the n64 and ps1 are fun to explore if you care about gaming history, but other than that and nostalgia, i can't imagine like, a zoomer going back and playing even most good games from that era and taking away much of anything from them other than 'holy poo poo these camera controls suck' and 'why are the textures on ps1 and n64 games all awful in different ways'
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American McGay posted:Software, Etc. and Babbages mine was never a babbages, that name was completely foreign to me when i heard about it after moving to a different state. i think it was EB Games for a while.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:much like the 2600, the n64 and ps1 are fun to explore if you care about gaming history, but other than that and nostalgia, i can't imagine like, a zoomer going back and playing even most good games from that era and taking away much of anything from them other than 'holy poo poo these camera controls suck' and 'why are the textures on ps1 and n64 games all awful in different ways' I'm sure almost anybody would still enjoy Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Wave Race has aged incredibly well too
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I'm sure almost anybody would still enjoy Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Wave Race has aged incredibly well too There are also a ton of non-3D games from that generation which have aged just fine, like Symphony of the Night.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:much like the 2600, the n64 and ps1 are fun to explore if you care about gaming history, but other than that and nostalgia, i can't imagine like, a zoomer going back and playing even most good games from that era and taking away much of anything from them other than 'holy poo poo these camera controls suck' and 'why are the textures on ps1 and n64 games all awful in different ways' My friend's 8 year old (is that too young to even be a zoomer?) is obsessed with Mario 64 and that's after he finished Odyssey first.
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Aug 2, 2021 03:59
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Memories of sitting at the lunch table, going over the FuncoLand trade-in sheets like the stock market.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I'm sure almost anybody would still enjoy Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Wave Race has aged incredibly well too Not really.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I'm sure almost anybody would still enjoy Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Wave Race has aged incredibly well too Especially as two out of those three have received a re-release. Still good games. That said, I swear the wall jump is harder to execute than it was on the 64.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I'm sure almost anybody would still enjoy Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Wave Race has aged incredibly well too that's why i said most, not any
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Waffle! posted:Memories of sitting at the lunch table, going over the FuncoLand trade-in sheets like the stock market. Earthbound $24.99 
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Aug 2, 2021 04:27
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Kirby 64 is fun. Easy, sure, but one of the last games where every level is individually designed. And great music.
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Aug 2, 2021 05:17
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kirby 64 is fun. Easy, sure, but one of the last games where every level is individually designed. And great music. What do you mean by the level design thing? Are new Kirby games procedurally generated or something
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Just chiming in to say that N64 Mystical Ninja was a transformative experience for me. I think it messed with my sense of humor though, in a good way probably.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:much like the 2600, the n64 and ps1 are fun to explore if you care about gaming history, but other than that and nostalgia, i can't imagine like, a zoomer going back and playing even most good games from that era and taking away much of anything from them other than 'holy poo poo these camera controls suck' and 'why are the textures on ps1 and n64 games all awful in different ways' My nephews are under the age of 10 and love playing Mario, Star Fox, and a few other games on my n64. The oldest was playing OG smash bros a little while back. Not sure if any of them have tried wave race. Shadows of the Empire is good and anyone who didn’t mention it while talking about good n64 games should be punished 
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People should really play Banjo-Kazooie. Like, it's a terrible, obnoxious game, but it was pretty obnoxious back then and it's good to at least see it.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Earthbound $24.99 I think I got my copy of that game in 2002 for around that from GameStop. Retro games started spiking only shortly after that due to more people at the right age having disposable income and wanting to rebuild collections. I feel like the perception that the N64 didn't have that many good games has more to do with it not having that many games period when compared to the NES and SNES, and people likely owning fewer games on the console at the time. I had a lot of fun playing a bunch of different N64 games, but also just had a million RPGs on PSX. DuckHuntDog fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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Aug 2, 2021 06:26
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zachol posted:People should really play Banjo-Kazooie. Like, it's a terrible, obnoxious game, but it was pretty obnoxious back then and it's good to at least see it. I liked Nuts & Bolts more. Yes, I am prepared to die on this hill.
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Fun Times! posted:What do you mean by the level design thing? Are new Kirby games procedurally generated or something No, but Kirby 64 was one of the last slower paced and more puzzle focused Kirby games. As fun as some of the modern Kirby games can be, the level design can sometimes be kind of... just there compared to the level design of the older Kirby games, even including the faster paced ones like Super Star. That issue really stuck out in the base game of Star Allies. Lots of the levels were kind of empty and could be glossed over because they really tried to accommodate for the fact that the game is designed for 4 players.
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loopsheloop posted:No, it looks like a port of a mobile version. I guess to clarify my complaints, the menus are utter poo poo and the speed option, which was just a button press in FF7 and 8, is now inside a menu. Doesn't sound like a huge deal, but in practice it's harder to use for skipping around. It's also straight crashed, and I got stuck on geometry on the fourth screen of the game. You’re exaggerating a bit. The bonuses being in an easily accessible menu, which I’m pretty sure you can bring up nearly whenever, is hardly inconvenient. The game does crash but it also auto saves pretty constantly and the aforementioned cheats let you make up for lost time very quickly, however small it tends to be. I think mine crashed about five times in the whole play through. x3 speed is great because only movement is sped up, not time, making chocobo hot ‘n cold a breeze. The game’s real problem is incredibly slow battles which even when sped up drag immensely. The abilities are also pretty pared down from previous games and I wasn’t fond of the ability acquisition system but it’s still an excellent and worthwhile entry. The story was a lot better than I expected even if the villain is rather lackluster (still not as bad as 8 which is dire but fun? to play.)
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Fun Times! posted:What do you mean by the level design thing? Are new Kirby games procedurally generated or something More that Kirby 64 had unique designs and themes for every single level; it didn't excessively reuse the same assets and setpieces the way I find the later 3D ones do. You get levels like the fossil cavern, the mall, the bigass alien spaceship in the desert, and the infamous factory which are clearly places that feel like they have their own stories, and enemies that fit the area. Almost unique for Kirby games, really.
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the others are fine on switch but you should really be playing ff9 on pc where you can take advantage of the loving gorgeous Moguri mod
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Mario 64, goldeneye, Mario party, smash Brothers, star fox 64,??? This made me wonder what games alternative reality me, living in a world where our parents bought a used N64 instead of a PSX, would have been interested in. After scouring 100+ games, I actually found 13 titles my younger self would have been interested in, far more than I suspected! My top 6 for that plastic abomination would have been Ogre Battle 64 Mischief Makers StarCraft 64 Star Fox 64 F-Zero X Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time The 7 not making the cut would then slowly be cycled through after the appropiate game in their former slot gets finished, e.g. Majora's Mask would replace Ocarina, Duck Dodgers (don't judge me) would replace Mischief, and so on
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Mister Facetious posted:I liked Nuts & Bolts more. They're both very good. I'd say Nuts and Bolts and Banjo Kazooie are too different to say which one is better, but both are way better than Tooie
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That's credits and extra credits on Gnosia. I normally don't have much patience for visual novels and animé bullshit that comes with them, so it's probably a good thing for me that this is such a massive divergence from the genre in tone and writing. The central mechanic of a rapidly repeating game of one night ultimate werewolf is strong, and you gradually have to subvert it to make progress in the metagame. By midgame you intimately understand how each of the NPC's play and have a massive catalogue of skills that you can do pretty much win almost every session. Tying the metagame to character development is a genius move. The characters are the highlight, and it's a joy to learn about all of them and sympathise with their background. Even Raqio wound up being strangely likable. The art is lovely too.
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Lots of people itt exposing themselves as fake gamers by not listing Mischief Makers as one of the best N64 games.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:They're both very good. I'd say Nuts and Bolts and Banjo Kazooie are too different to say which one is better, but both are way better than Tooie
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Ghost Leviathan posted:More that Kirby 64 had unique designs and themes for every single level; it didn't excessively reuse the same assets and setpieces the way I find the later 3D ones do. You get levels like the fossil cavern, the mall, the bigass alien spaceship in the desert, and the infamous factory which are clearly places that feel like they have their own stories, and enemies that fit the area. Almost unique for Kirby games, really. planet robobot had good levels and a variety of settings. i think some of the unique ones like the casino and the ice cream factory (?) were repeated once like half the game later and with more/different stuff going on. but yeah the levels in like kirby star allies are less dense and interesting iirc.
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JordanKai posted:Lots of people itt exposing themselves as fake gamers by not listing Mischief Makers as one of the best N64 games. shake shake
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b_d posted:i thought you just bought the games and they came with them? were you buying used or something? or maybe electronics plus or whatever it used to be called would unbox the games and gently caress with them for whatever reason. I was in like, 2nd and 3rd grade at the time. So I didn't buy them myself. But that store isn't something I've ever even heard of. And my games were brand new. I remember the shrink wrap. We didn't have second hand stores at all back then. I even got one directly from toys r us, the year my mom talked me into getting Wario's Woods instead of Super Metroid. And I'll never forget the dark path that lead me down in life. But yeah, all of them were brand new, and I never ever had the little plastic things. 
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I bought a N64 thinking I would be playing more square rpgs and earthbound 64, just like on snes. I still loved Diddy Kong racing, OoT, banjo kazooie, Mario 64, etc, but it was hard to get over that disappointment. But hey I got a cheap psone a few years later and stopped being a console warrior kid, so it all worked out.
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Mr Phillby posted:Still baffled why people were so upset by the change in genre. We had a preview of a banjo threeie it was called dk64. Years later we got Yooka Laylee. This is the alternate future nuts and bolts haters wanted. Yooka Laylee was better than Tooie tbh
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b_d posted:planet robobot had good levels and a variety of settings. i think some of the unique ones like the casino and the ice cream factory (?) were repeated once like half the game later and with more/different stuff going on. Planet Robobot was so, so good. One of the only games I've picked up and then didn't put down until I 100%ed it.
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Imagine talking poo poo about a console that had goldeneye, smash brothers, f zero x, diddy kong racing, conker’s bad fur day, turok rage wars, mario tennis, mario golf, wwf no mercy and gauntlet legends making it absolutely the best multiplayer fun you could have that generation To say nothing of the GOATs OoT and Majora’s Mask for if you didn't have friends
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i’m imagining it.
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Mr Phillby posted:Still baffled why people were so upset by the change in genre. We had a preview of a banjo threeie it was called dk64. Years later we got Yooka Laylee. This is the alternate future nuts and bolts haters wanted. A studio changing making a major pivot on a franchise means you're almost never going to get the game the fans actually want ever again. The marketing data that comes back is a binary between "Nuts and Bolts sells well, make more Nuts and Bolts" or "Nuts and Bolts sold like poo poo, people don't want more Banjo and Kazooie At All". There's nowhere in that data to pivot to "Fans didn't like this, maybe we should make Banjo-Kazooie Three-ie instead?". Valkyria Revolution's another example; The game sucked on its own merits, sure, but at the time of annoncement the fans knew drat-well it was going to kill the franchise either way because the data coming back would be "People don't want more Valkyria At All" or "Make Valkyria Revolution 2". (Granted VC4 popped into existence, but that turned out to have been in development in parallel). Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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jackhunter64 posted:You were real hot poo poo if you had one or more of these: Holey moley I had this. In the issue it came with the entire magazine staff picked their top 6 games they’d put in it. e: what’s Dr Kitts up to these days
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b_d posted:i’m imagining it. Same
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