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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Just as an example of how bad the disinfo out there is getting ....... What do you suggest they do instead?
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PIZZA.BAT posted:What do you suggest they do instead? mandates and (at minimum) fines for violating those mandates.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:17
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My wife just texted me to tell me she was with our children having a drink outside the pub and some creepy old gently caress that had seen them wearing masks started ranting about them being brainwashed by Boris Johnson. My wife told him she didn't want or care about his opinions so go away, then he got all up in my 12 year old daughter's face and freaked her the gently caress out. Jesus Christ. loving people.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:18
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Zugzwang posted:That's good news indeed and perhaps my doomer brain can take a breather! The numbers in that tweet are already adjusted for population, making the comparison between the states even more stark.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:22
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Akuma posted:My wife just texted me to tell me she was with our children having a drink outside the pub and some creepy old gently caress that had seen them wearing masks started ranting about them being brainwashed by Boris Johnson. My wife told him she didn't want or care about his opinions so go away, then he got all up in my 12 year old daughter's face and freaked her the gently caress out. I had a similar experience couple days ago. I usually try to prevent any and all shopping trips at the moment, but had to get some stuff from the grocery. Guy behind me nearly basically drives his shopping cart into my legs (the whole shop of course has „stop here“ lines on the floor so distancing rules are applied, which he totally ignored). I turn around, and he looks at me, his mask (which is still mandated here) under his face. I kindly ask him to back off, and he just makes a funny face at me. I look to the owner of the shop and point at the guy and shrug my shoulders like „seriously?“ and nothing happens. I move up the queue and then that guy actually moves his cart right next to me, and continues to get as close to me with that loving smiling face as possible. I never, ever in my life (outside of an hockey rink) wanted to punch someone or actually did punch someone in the face, but at that point, I really had to control myself, and it was loving hard. The worst thing about this is that I thought about that hosed up situation the whole day, even when I went to bed. I‘m really afraid of these situations when everything opens up here (which will happen sooner or later, regardless of the situation), because they will happen more and more… tuo fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 15:30
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tuo posted:The worst thing about this is that I thought about that hosed up situation the whole day, even when I went to bed.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:39
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Aug 3, 2021 15:56
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I can’t wait for the terrible HIPAA takes this is gonna create.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:03
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Akuma posted:My wife just texted me to tell me she was with our children having a drink outside the pub and some creepy old gently caress that had seen them wearing masks started ranting about them being brainwashed by Boris Johnson. My wife told him she didn't want or care about his opinions so go away, then he got all up in my 12 year old daughter's face and freaked her the gently caress out. If it makes you feel any better the reason that creepy old gently caress was alone is because everyone in his own personal life has already told him to gently caress off. You’re the closest thing he has to a friend right now. Lol
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Aug 3, 2021 16:03
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PIZZA.BAT posted:What do you suggest they do instead? Forced vaccination
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Aug 3, 2021 16:04
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freebooter posted:Thanks a lot Europe.  would like a word.Castaign posted:The numbers in that tweet are already adjusted for population, making the comparison between the states even more stark.  I need more sleep.Akuma posted:And he probably didn't think about it all because he's a broken old sociopath. gently caress! They're not going to enforce it until mid-September.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:05
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that'll get those "mark of the beast" folks riled up but what doesn't these days?
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Aug 3, 2021 16:08
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When do Florida's numbers come in? Is it today?
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Aug 3, 2021 16:43
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Mulaney Power Move posted:that'll get those "mark of the beast" folks riled up but what doesn't these days? Yeah, who loving cares. This is a major public health crisis. People need to get vaccinated by any means necessary.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:49
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"13-year-old teen, infected with COVID-19. Another reason to avoid returning to schools, this is not the time and here is the proof. See the severe damage to her lungs " https://twitter.com/HectorRossete/status/1422362607088922630?s=20
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Aug 3, 2021 17:16
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freebooter posted:Pretty close to, only about two or three countries in the world have done better, but my point there was that Europe was the place that really decided to just let it rip. China had it well under control by the first week of March 2020. Now everybody on the planet just has to deal with it for centuries to come. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_0zFEtPbiA Plenty of blame to go around.
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Aug 3, 2021 17:33
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422(21)00182-4/fulltext Is there a point to posting this link, or do you expect people to just read a research paper?
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Aug 3, 2021 17:53
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i only accept information in the form of screenshots of tweets of headlines
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Aug 3, 2021 18:10
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Crackbone posted:Is there a point to posting this link, or do you expect people to just read a research paper? I read chunks of it, mostly focusing on introduction and conclusions, because I am an idiot who likes to subject myself to these things. I think I can guess why someone would post that here. tl;dr the conclusions of this study is that loss of smell could be linked to neurodegenerative disease. It doesn't seem to have any direct evidence of this, focusing instead on the inflammation of the olfactory system during and after infection but offers it as part of the conclusion quote:Mounting evidence implicates neuroinflammatory signalling within the brain as a key driver of neurodegenerative diseases. Brain regions involved in processing olfactory input are early sites of the pathological hallmarks of neurodegenerative disease and connect to adjacent brain regions involved in memory and attention.97, 100 We thus postulate that, in people who have recovered from COVID-19, a chronic or permanent olfactory deficit could be prognostic for an increased likelihood of neurological sequelae or neurodegenerative disorders in the long term. I'd say it's probably not really a great paper to be passing around as most people will just read this as a direct link, rather than a potential risk and a call to monitor for signs of neurodegenerative disease in patients with these symptoms.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:10
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Cuomo seemed like the best governor to have if you are worried about covid since he has no problem telling schools and businesses to go gently caress themselves when they ask to remove the mask mandate. If he resigns, who replaces him? I'm not American so I don't know how it works. Hopefully his replacement is extremely pro mask and not some nutter like Elise Stefanik?
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Aug 3, 2021 18:15
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Blooster posted:Cuomo seemed like the best governor to have if you are worried about covid since he has no problem telling schools and businesses to go gently caress themselves when they ask to remove the mask mandate. Cuomo handled it so badly he lost his state a congressional representative.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:36
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wilderthanmild posted:I read chunks of it, mostly focusing on introduction and conclusions, because I am an idiot who likes to subject myself to these things. I think I can guess why someone would post that here. Thanks, I appreciate the summary and caution that it's not really what most people would read into it.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:37
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Blooster posted:Cuomo seemed like the best governor to have if you are worried about covid since he has no problem telling schools and businesses to go gently caress themselves when they ask to remove the mask mandate. Cuomo's also a sexpest so kinda... please get the gently caress out of here Cuomo
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Aug 3, 2021 18:47
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Omnikin posted:Cuomo's also a sexpest so kinda... please get the gently caress out of here Cuomo Yeah, he's also a bully so at first glance it can seem like he just has no problem telling <potentially obstructing organizations> to go gently caress themselves, but that is based far more on his need to dominate those organizations than some principled stand for what is right and must be done. He's just as likely to be telling the health department to go gently caress themselves because he wants them to hide the number of nursing home deaths in the state. LanceHunter fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 18:50
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Idle thinking, but now that it’s been shown that Delta hides in the noses of the vaccinated and they spread it just as easy - did that happen with the flu vaccine too? Or was it never studied
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Aug 3, 2021 18:52
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Idle thinking, but now that it’s been shown that Delta hides in the noses of the vaccinated and they spread it just as easy - did that happen with the flu vaccine too? Or was it never studied It's not really some magical hiding thing, it's more that asymptomatic infections have sufficient viral loads in their airways to spread the disease. This didn't appear to to be the case with the wild-type or other variants. Combine this with delta having more breakthroughs, both asymptomatic and symptomatic, and you have a very serious risk that definitely warrants not considering vaccinated individuals as safe by default. It's just important to understand this isn't some totally novel thing.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:02
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I said this at least a year ago and I'm going to say it again. I'm not really joking. Why can't we plug our noses with some kind of foam type device and just become mouth breathers for 3 months
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Aug 3, 2021 19:03
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Spinz posted:I said this at least a year ago and I'm going to say it again. I'm not really joking. Why can't we plug our noses with some kind of foam type device and just become mouth breathers for 3 months The guy who wrote this book participated in an experiment doing that for a month, it wrecked his health (breathing only through mouth) https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/breath-james-nestor/1134986035 Basically mouth breathers are dumber, weaker, and get more sick because your lungs are not meant to receive air like that, there’s all sorts of filters in the nasal airways It’s an interesting book, it also possibly links poor breathing technique to anxiety attacks/Oxygen-CO2 balance (which is why slow breathing seems to help anxiety attacks, too much oxygen can be bad)
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Aug 3, 2021 19:09
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Obviously I don't like Cuomo and I think he should resign and even be arrested but I'm just wondering if his replacement is going to be some anti mask moron like the dem running against DeSantis
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Aug 3, 2021 19:15
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Pinecone Sample posted:The best way to convince hesitant people that the vaccine works is to actually behave as though your vaccine works, live your life, and do dope poo poo i can't bc all the unvaxxed people have forced a crisis in my state. we're back at the same infection rates as July/Aug 2020 when the second wave surged lol
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Aug 3, 2021 19:18
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Blooster posted:Obviously I don't like Cuomo and I think he should resign and even be arrested but I'm just wondering if his replacement is going to be some anti mask moron like the dem running against DeSantis Probably not in New York. Florida dems probably just think that they have to win over Florida Man to win by basically just being republicans with D next to their names.
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Spinz posted:I said this at least a year ago and I'm going to say it again. I'm not really joking. Why can't we plug our noses with some kind of foam type device and just become mouth breathers for 3 months Already ahead of ya since I have been completely unable to breathe through my nose for the past few days. Yes I am aware of what that might mean and I'm staying the gently caress away from people more than I already was.
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Plant MONSTER. posted:Yeah, that's a big reason why I agree with the landlord in this case. He and his wife would be in direct danger by allowing this kid to move into their basement, not to mention the other renters. There's a lot of hand wringing from lawyers about slippery slopes in that article. OTOH you know landlords if given any leeway with this would suddenly be "disclose all your medical history to me"
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Pekinduck posted:OTOH you know landlords if given any leeway with this would suddenly be "disclose all your medical history to me" renter acknowledges that in the case of a cancer diagnosis, landlord shall reserve the right to end the lease due to expected inability to pay owed rent. any cancer diagnosis must be provided within 24 hours to landlord
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Pekinduck posted:OTOH you know landlords if given any leeway with this would suddenly be "disclose all your medical history to me" What do you mean? Isn't that already mandatory? ...Are you going to tell me the butthole pictures I was asked to submit were also necessary? Yeah I know, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Which is weird that I find myself agreeing with the landlord in thise case. Only because it's just a room in a shared space. edit - or better yet landlord should just not rent out that space if he can't prevent unvaccinated people renting. Plant MONSTER. fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 22:39
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Blooster posted:Obviously I don't like Cuomo and I think he should resign and even be arrested but I'm just wondering if his replacement is going to be some anti mask moron like the dem running against DeSantis New York has sent enough people our way, so we're returning the favor and giving you DeSantis.
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Aug 3, 2021 22:54
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:The guy who wrote this book participated in an experiment doing that for a month, it wrecked his health (breathing only through mouth) Amazing. Looks fantastic, I'm going to look for this book, thank you!!!
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I've read a ton of this thread, haven't really touched C-SPAM. I thought someone showed a tweet, or graph, or some poo poo about there is a 20% chance to have a breakthrough infection? Most likely, I went and got my numbers and posts all mixed up .. everything I've looked online at says it's more like a 1% chance. did i hallucinate? Also, it seems like if they do develop a nasal spray, that'd help out a lot. Maybe not with the anti-vax people, but at least a stronger defense with people willing to get vax'd (more, or finally)
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