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Lostconfused posted:Personally I do not belive that things got "better" under Trump. Yeah, I remember that the TPP's big selling point (and how support of it was defended in 2016) was that it was necessary to reign China in. Or at least I'd mark that as when I started noticing an escalation.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:08
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comedyblissoption posted:i will not have you belittle the militant armed threat to the government of wisconsin which demanded removal from office of the duly elected executive and legislators, quite unlike the noble east asian storming of legislatures lol might want to rephrase that https://twitter.com/tlrd/status/799629536929452032
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Aug 3, 2021 19:28
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Taiwan is coming home
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Aug 3, 2021 19:30
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Agrajag posted:i heard and read various versions of this since 09' Chinese and foreign tech bozos got to big for their britches in China. Xi had enough so the CCP is bringing down the hammer on everyone.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:56
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Nonsense posted:Hong Kong is rightfully being punished. Punish me, President Xi
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Aug 3, 2021 23:06
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I don't understand why Jacobin is so hostile to China when it's pretty Pro-Cuba and relatively pro-Eastern Bloc too. That being said even I think that ethnic chauvinism is getting worse in China.
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Aug 3, 2021 23:58
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the eastern bloc doesn't exist anymore and Cuba isn't a direct threat to US global hegemony
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Aug 4, 2021 00:09
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ethnic chauvinism
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Aug 4, 2021 00:12
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ToxicAcne posted:I don't understand why Jacobin is so hostile to China when it's pretty Pro-Cuba Being pro-Cuba is a respectable opinion, that's why. Jacobin's mission is to be a respectable magazine for serious people (liberals) in the hopes that they can turn Biden voters into Bernie voters.
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Aug 4, 2021 00:16
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I have some bad news for you lol https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1283467297789796354?s=19 https://jacobinmag.com/2021/07/cuba-embargo-sanctions-biden-crisis quote:But the embargo has had a far more insidious impact on the political culture of Cuba. The Cuban government is not unaware of the United States’ desired policy... [it] has in fact served Cuban authorities well, providing a readily available target that can be blamed for homegrown economic mismanagement and resource misallocation. The embargo provides a refuge for blamelessness and immunity from accountability...
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Aug 4, 2021 00:24
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the used car-salesmen left lol
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Aug 4, 2021 01:16
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https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1422526275374157826
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Aug 4, 2021 01:17
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Zmej posted:I have some bad news for you lol shrike!
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Aug 4, 2021 01:17
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quote:Roderic Day @RodericDay
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Aug 4, 2021 01:21
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yeah hes p cool
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Aug 4, 2021 01:22
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https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1422478254221504558 https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1422481725549129730 https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1422484523829321730
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Aug 4, 2021 01:44
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wagner and kadyrovites are pretty different are they not? like wagner is essentially a state organ of russia, while kadyrov's paramilitaries are more like... autonomous and very influential actors who don't always act in accordance with how moscow might like (assassinating nemtsov right in front of the kremlin for example). well i guess the kadyrovites are a good comparison to azov, but wagner seems weird to throw in there.
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Aug 4, 2021 01:56
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Lol the d&d china thread have just had anyone critical of Adrian zenz banned
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Aug 4, 2021 02:25
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i sort of see his point. all three of those entities are pretty different, but they are all (para-)military organizations at least nominally independent of the state, even if they are closely allied. wagner group had a few dozen guys killed by a US airstrike in Syria, and since they were technically mercenaries there wasn't much pressure on Russia to actually respond. I think there's a trend in at least the English language international relations world to think that private militaries are becoming bigger players internationally, but I'm not sure about that. the Safari club was founded 50 years ago, these sort of outfits aren't a new development.
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Aug 4, 2021 02:29
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thatfatkid posted:Lol the d&d china thread have just had anyone critical of Adrian zenz banned it's genocide every time china medals in the olympics
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Aug 4, 2021 02:49
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Everytime China makes me engage in Olympics level mental gymnastics, that's a genocide
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Aug 4, 2021 02:50
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comparing number of users browsing d&d to cspammed and, well, "lol" –shrike
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Aug 4, 2021 02:54
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D&dishly "the genocide of d&d by CSPAM must stop!"
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Aug 4, 2021 03:08
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Atrocious Joe posted:i sort of see his point. all three of those entities are pretty different, but they are all (para-)military organizations at least nominally independent of the state, even if they are closely allied. People forget that the main appeal of using mercenaries is they're politically expendable. If a merc gets killed there's no political consequences, but that doesn't undermine the necessity and influence of state militaries. It's only something you want to use in legal grayzones. The US and its allies have employed paramilitaries all around the world for half a century.
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Aug 4, 2021 03:14
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thatfatkid posted:Lol the d&d china thread have just had anyone critical of Adrian zenz banned This is cultural genocide
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Aug 4, 2021 03:46
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Applying a critical lense to a very obviously confected propaganda campaign lying about genocide : bannable. Hilariously racist posts celebrating the fact that the inscrutable oriental don't have certain technology yet : encouraged and applauded. quote:In other news apparently there's still technology that might be perhaps thankfully be permanently out of CCP's reach. Somebody has issued a correction as of 22:17 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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Aug 4, 2021 04:10
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even for dnd this is a pretty strict political line, they dont even bother obscuring it behind their pedantry. whatever pompeo and blinken says goes.
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Aug 4, 2021 04:12
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So much 60s "dumb yellowmen will never be able to make a nuclear weapon" vibes
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Aug 4, 2021 04:27
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love to virtue signalling racism on our forums by strawmanning terms like orientals and yellowmen
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Aug 4, 2021 04:48
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thatfatkid posted:Applying a critical lense to a very obviously confected propaganda campaign lying about genocide : bannable. https://www.asml.com/en/careers/working-at-asml/taiwan 
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Aug 4, 2021 04:49
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Palladium posted:So much 60s "dumb yellowmen will never be able to make a nuclear weapon" vibes quote:China has virtually no lithography experience or industry. Any Chinese firm trying to develop EUV lithography would have to start from scratch. It would have to close the gap with ASML’s billions of dollars, decades of experience, and the accumulated experience and tacit knowledge of their tens of thousands of employees. And it would have to succeed where experienced, billion-dollar companies failed. There is little chance a Chinese company will make an EUV lithography machine in the foreseeable future. lol
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Aug 4, 2021 04:51
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quote:There are many strategically important technologies in the development pipeline that are potentially dangerous or destabilizing. They include artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons systems, hypersonic missiles, cyberweapons, surveillance tools, and the latest generation of nuclear weapons. These technologies, and many others, require state-of-the-art chips to develop and deploy. Keeping these chips away from the Chinese government, or those acting on its behalf, can pre-empt many worst-case human rights and security scenarios in the coming decades. Without the lithography tech, China can never hope to produce all of these things that they already have.
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Aug 4, 2021 04:54
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Kill All Cops posted:The Dangerous Driving charge didn't stick once he was convicted of the act of terrorism, and 6.5 years of the 9 year sentence was attributed to the act of the guy flying the flag with the secessionist slogan on it wow very tankieish of you to suggest that the slogan was seccessionist and not just a generic william wallace style expression of freedom
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Aug 4, 2021 04:55
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Some Guy TT posted:wow very tankieish of you to suggest that the slogan was seccessionist and not just a generic william wallace style expression of freedom its amazing how fast minds can be changed when laws are put into place for punishing wrongthink, huh
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Aug 4, 2021 04:57
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that article has all sorts of bangersquote:The Chinese government cannot engage in techno-authoritarianism or arms races if it lacks advanced chips. what's the difference between authoritarianism and techno-authoritarianism quote:Despite this hyperspecialization, it has a market capitalization of more than $150 billion dollars—much higher than IBM’s and only slightly lower than Tesla’s. why do you bring up Tesla in an article that depends on the premise that capitalist markets are the most effective way to organize technological development
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Aug 4, 2021 04:57
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Atrocious Joe posted:that article has all sorts of bangers It's hard not to interpret that article as anything but pure techno-fetishism. Having a cost-effective way to produce super advanced chips is cool and all, but it's hard to imagine how they'd have any application outside of edge-case developments or how having some more advanced chips is a meaningful material advantage. Like, why does there need to be a "new generation" of nuclear weapons? How much more accurate does an MIRV bus need to be?
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Aug 4, 2021 05:03
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Atrocious Joe posted:what's the difference between authoritarianism and techno-authoritarianism  techno-authoritarianism: 
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Aug 4, 2021 05:05
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Atrocious Joe posted:what's the difference between authoritarianism and techno-authoritarianism sounds like a skrillex song bangarang
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Aug 4, 2021 05:07
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techno-totalitarianism sounds scarier
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Aug 4, 2021 05:18
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"mom can we have techno-authoritarianism?" "no, we have techno-authoritarianism at home." at home... authoritarianism
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