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The new Kommando and Veteran Guardsman sprues read a lot more to me like updated plastic Kommandos and an updated plastic Guard troops sprue (and these are both kits folks have been wanting updates to for ages) that have been modeled with some extra customization options because sculptors like to do that and because it'd make them work well as launch sprues for a new edition of Kill Team than as bespoke Kill Team faction sprues that just also happen to work as 40k units. Which is to say, I don't take them as evidence that other factions will be getting bespoke Kill Team kits the way Warcry works. After the Kill Team launch, I think they're going into a pair of retail boxes labeled "Warhammer 40,000 Ork Kommandos" and "Warhammer 40,000 Astra Militarum Veteran Guardsmen," and in a few years, Hope I'm wrong!
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Crackbone posted:The color scheme is skeletor. I'm still slowly working on my Skeletor necrons. Like... very very very slowly. I might have an army done by 11th edition.
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Crackbone posted:The color scheme is skeletor. Many times I've started down the path of a paint scheme only to realise halfway: "Oh I'm doing War Boys from Mad Max" or "My KO now look like Gordon Freeman's HEV suit, might as well keep at it!" It amazes me how deep these colour combinations can embed themselves in your brain.
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Just played Space Hulk for the first time. I 'won' in that I managed to kill all but two of his Space Marines, but I only 'won' because he only figured out how to properly play them on turn 5. Also, he did a spartan stand in a choke point with the warhammer guy and killed 9 stealers before I finally got him, the hammer/shield guy is an absolute loving demon. Absolutely wonderful game, were there ever expansions for it? I remember seeing Tarantula turret minis for the game but my box only has a bunch of marines, objectives and a genestealer brood lord.
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There were a bunch of expansions but most of them have been rolled into the latest box. No idea about turrets though.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Just played Space Hulk for the first time. I 'won' in that I managed to kill all but two of his Space Marines, but I only 'won' because he only figured out how to properly play them on turn 5. Also, he did a spartan stand in a choke point with the warhammer guy and killed 9 stealers before I finally got him, the hammer/shield guy is an absolute loving demon. Absolutely wonderful game, were there ever expansions for it? I remember seeing Tarantula turret minis for the game but my box only has a bunch of marines, objectives and a genestealer brood lord. Original (1989) or the re-release from a few years back? Both had expansions: Original had Deathwing, Genestealer, and Space Hulk Campaigns (collection of WD articles and missions.) The old Citadel Journal had a bunch of SH articles (it was pretty much a homebrew magazine) and you could port in Eldar, Guard, Chaos Terminators, and standard Marines as well. I don't recall the Tarantula ever being a weapon option (it was always a Guard weapon, so maybe in that list?) Re-release was an update of the 2009 3rd ed box - it had some rules tweaks and one or two (?) additional missions, mostly using the new boarding torpedo piece. There were three expansions, which were updated version of classic 1st ed SH Campaigns missions: Bringer of Sorrow, Return to Kallidus, and Duty and Honor. Each centered around a specific chapter (DA, SW, Ultras, respectively) and were infuriatingly only available on iPad, thought you might be able to find them as  somewhere.
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Space Crusade had them. You may be thinking of that.
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TTerrible posted:Space Crusade had them. You may be thinking of that. Woah, I had no clue SC had those. I thought it was SMs, Chaos Androids, and ED-209.
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It may have been in the expansion with the four armed ED-209. I can't remember.
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I think it was. That was their firepower response.
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TTerrible posted:Space Crusade had them. You may be thinking of that. Yep! That's Ok. Hulk is great.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Just played Space Hulk for the first time. I 'won' in that I managed to kill all but two of his Space Marines, but I only 'won' because he only figured out how to properly play them on turn 5. Also, he did a spartan stand in a choke point with the warhammer guy and killed 9 stealers before I finally got him, the hammer/shield guy is an absolute loving demon. Absolutely wonderful game, were there ever expansions for it? I remember seeing Tarantula turret minis for the game but my box only has a bunch of marines, objectives and a genestealer brood lord. Somewhere out there are published (like in one of the magazines) rules for using Imperial Guard because Space Marines can't be everywhere. I played it a couple times and as you can guess, it rarely ends well for them.
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This might be a dumb question because I've just started looking at Warcry. I'd like to base some of my Dark Elves as a small City of Sigmar force. Is there a route explicitly for that or is it just a matter of only selecting Dark Elves? It seems like I can just slam all kinds of gyrocopters and handgunners in there, which feels extremely wrong to me.
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I wrote a post moaning about age of sigmar but thought better of it. All I will say is extremely 
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Oh no. Yeah I'm not trying to begrudge the system or stir up bad feelings, I was just hoping I'd missed a "Dark elves appendix" somewhere. Morathi's snake ladies seem cool though, and don't seem to play with Dwarfs.
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There's a new (ish) Warcry warband that's Dark Elf assassin types, isn't there?
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Squibsy posted:There's a new (ish) Warcry warband that's Dark Elf assassin types, isn't there? Yeah they came out with Catacombs, The.....Shadowstalkers I believe. No snake ladies
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They look pretty excellent, and what I thought was their androgynous snake person is just an elf with a weird spell effect. Looking forward to trying this, but oh well.
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moths posted:This might be a dumb question because I've just started looking at Warcry. I'd like to base some of my Dark Elves as a small City of Sigmar force. Is there a route explicitly for that or is it just a matter of only selecting Dark Elves? This is explicitly one of the titular Cities of Sigmar!
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yeah the cobra commander mask elf is just a weird effect its the underworlds warband that comes with a snake lady
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I found out about Anvilgard! Am I missing something that makes it Dark Elf exclusive? It seems like I could just run anything in any city as kind of a weird WHFB stew. The Daughters of Khaine get snakes and totally not harpies, which seems like its pre-themed for the direction I'm going. moths fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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The different flavour of cities let you ally with other armies (One double-downs(?) on Stormcasts, one with Daughters of Khaine, one with the steampunk Dwarves, etc) and give you options to get bonuses for taking certain units, as far as I understand. I don't think anything is stopping you taking, say, Dispossessed/old Dwarves alongside whoever you ally with, but I guess they're taking up space that could be used by snake-ladies or Sigmarines or tree-people. Just take the old Dark Elves figures alongside the new snake-elves figures. There are rules and options to give you bonuses for playing a certain way and taking certain units. You can theme it however you like, I don't know if it'll be competitive.
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Anvilgard's got a thematic focus on classic Dark Elf units, and a mechanical focus on their Monster units. There's Har Kuron that's a variant city that limits you to only the Dark Elf units, with the kicker that you can add in Daughters of Khaine units in without worrying about the ally rules.
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Ok THAT sounds like what I was missing, thanks!
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Anvilgard's got a thematic focus on classic Dark Elf units, and a mechanical focus on their Monster units.
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It doesn't look like that's made it into Warcry yet, so I'm just going to go with Daughters and hope for an update. Or the cool shadowy one.
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moths posted:It doesn't look like that's made it into Warcry yet, so I'm just going to go with Daughters and hope for an update. Har Kuron was added in one of the very last books of AOS 2e, and 3e just came out. I'm not surprised it's not reflected in Warcry.
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Alright, I got a game in with my crazy Biel-Tan Minigeddon list. Leperfish, I took your advice and added heavy weapons to 1 unit of guardians. Lists were built blind. Armies: Eldar - Biel-Tan: -150pts - Guardians, 1 farseer and 7 guardians -150pts - Guardians, 1 farseer and 7 guardians -150pts - Guardians, 1 farseer, 4 guardians, and 3 Heavy Weapons -350pts - 1 Revenant Titan (BTS) -150pts - Warwalkers, 4 war walkers -50pts Webway Portal Ork - War horde: -250pts - Warband, 2 Nobz, 8 Boyz, and 4 Grotz -250pts - Warband, 2 Nobz, 8 Boyz, and 4 Grotz -175pts - MekBoy Gunmob, 5 Big Gunz, one with Oddboy (Soopagun) -175pts - MekBoy Gunmob, 5 Big Gunz, one with Oddboy (Soopagun) -150pts - Stormboyz Warhorde, 6 Stormboyz I handidly beat the ork player, winning via objectives turn 3. However, this isn't an accurate portrayal as we realized post game I used the webway portal twice in one turn. I've never used the webway before, and only just started playing Biel-Tan, feels bad. We plan to play again soon, though I might wait a game or two before I use the list again. Overall I enjoyed the list, turn one felt dicey though, the Rev can easily be broken from BMs alone. The guardians with support weapons were very handy, though I did move them illegally out of the webway at the very end of turn 2. Had I moved them at the start of turn 3 the effect would have been essentially the same. Dumb me. The guardians did get pretty shot up, but two of them won assualts eliminating units. Plus turn 3 had a brutal clipping assualt featuring the Rev + 1 complete guardian unit and one unit of 3 stands of guards elminating a mostly entact warband via FF. MVP unit was War Walkers - they held up a warband for two turns, saved a total of 5 hits before being destroyed, including a MW hit, broke a gunmob with fire, and killed more than a half dozen stands of infantry, most in 2 seperate assualts.
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Honestly in that list the Rev felt like dead weight. It did break a gunmob at a crucial moment, and was great in the clipping assualt, but overall it shot very poorly. I beleive it killed 2 grotz and 2 big guns all game. The FF in assualt was good though. I guess the War Walkers were hogging all the good rolls.
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Good to hear the list worked out! Definitely need to play a couple or three times to see how swingy dice can be. A few notes:
The game expects you to play with lots of terrain, including Dangerous and Impassible Terrain, cover, buildings, hills, etc. If you found your titan easily getting shot by everything all the time, you may not have enough blocking terrain on the board. One of the key things about orks is that although they get a lot of cheap troops, they're really bad at activating and tend to fail activation rolls. Eldar are good at activation and retaining the initiative, and they tend to be highly mobile as well (guardians notwithstanding). I tend to play eldar vs. orks by kiting around as fast as possible, especially with hover tanks and jetbikes, using terrain as best I can to avoid getting shot at, and retaining the initiative to set up crossfires and positioning formations to be brought into multi-formation assaults. Anyway I'm glad you had fun and definitely give it another go!
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War Walkers get a 6+ reinforced save, which until tonight I thought was a joke. I used the free heavy weapon upgrade, the scatter laser. Rev doesn't have lances. I'm playing Net:EA, might be a difference here. (checked: nope, but their MW do the same thing) We had lots of terrain, I played tight to it with the Rev, that saved me from taking too many BMs. Also yeah the orks failed like 4 activations to my one. In minigeddon you generally can't retain the initiative, most play that way, but I have seen some places that allow it. This obviously seriously impacts Eldar. My opponenet usally plays lots of ork armor, but I had mentioned I was playing eldar, I feel like he took all infantry as a response to my usual falcon heavy list. Virtual Russian fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Yeah they came out with Catacombs, The.....Shadowstalkers I believe. No snake ladies  https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warcry-Khainite-Shadowstalkers-2020 They very much have a snake lady. moths posted:This might be a dumb question because I've just started looking at Warcry. I'd like to base some of my Dark Elves as a small City of Sigmar force. Is there a route explicitly for that or is it just a matter of only selecting Dark Elves?
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Lord_Hambrose posted:This is explicitly one of the titular Cities of Sigmar! I'm the titular city
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berzerkmonkey posted:
That's not a snake lady. shes got some shadow effect coming from the staff and snaking around the miniature.
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They may have been ONCE AN ELF but that model still has legs.
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berzerkmonkey posted:
I have that model in front of me, it's not a snake lady. It's part of her cloak/magic effect wrapping around her.
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I'll be goddamned. It appears I am the one.
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It's definitely evocative of the snake silhouette , that's got to be on purpose.
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