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blight rhino posted:I've read a ton of this thread, haven't really touched C-SPAM. It's definitely not 1 percent post exposure. There are a lot of bad statistics going around comparing the entire vaccinated population versus cases. It's reminiscent of stats showing the entire population versus those who've died and saying that's covid's death rate.
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blight rhino posted:I've read a ton of this thread, haven't really touched C-SPAM. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/uk-scientists-covid-variant-beat-vaccines-intl/index.html https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/08/03/21/covid-lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-resistance-in-lab the question is how long will the virus bounce around before it’s contained, and how many mutations are possible that evade immunity developed from early vaccines and early infections. it’s potentially slower than the common flu strains in escaping immunity, but uh what does that mean if exposure and mild cases are causing long covid or other organ damage
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Inept posted:renter acknowledges that in the case of a cancer diagnosis, landlord shall reserve the right to end the lease due to expected inability to pay owed rent. any cancer diagnosis must be provided within 24 hours to landlord What are u going to do if I die unexpectedly, kill me
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Elea posted:It's definitely not 1 percent post exposure. There are a lot of bad statistics going around comparing the entire vaccinated population versus cases. It's reminiscent of stats showing the entire population versus those who've died and saying that's covid's death rate. Computer Serf posted:https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/uk-scientists-covid-variant-beat-vaccines-intl/index.html thanks, folks. I've got acquaintances, and some right-wing extended family, that are refusing the science. Just trying to get all the facts. And, jesus, they've skipped to lambda? That's a new variant that hasn't hit the US, yet? Did I read that right? blight rhino fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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blight rhino posted:thanks, folks. I've got acquaintances, and some right-wing extended family, that are refusing the science. Just trying to get all the facts. It's the dominant strain of Peru, yes. Looks to be a bit weaker than Delta fwiw.
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Computer Serf posted:https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/uk-scientists-covid-variant-beat-vaccines-intl/index.html As concerning as Lambda and other vaccine resistant strains are, the silver-lining with Delta is that it's so contagious that it becomes the dominant strain in an infected population and our vaccines are still effective against it.
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blight rhino posted:
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blight rhino posted:thanks, folks. I've got acquaintances, and some right-wing extended family, that are refusing the science. Just trying to get all the facts. Nothing was skipped, there have been that many observed mutations but lambda is the next "variant of interest" following delta.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I read some reports about nasal vaccines being developed but nothing has been released yet to my knowledge. Some version in Spain and some Indian company working on them and promising a lot Cuba is working on one too
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John_A_Tallon posted:Cuba is working on one too Cuba says a lot of things
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DickParasite posted:As concerning as Lambda and other vaccine resistant strains are, the silver-lining with Delta is that it's so contagious that it becomes the dominant strain in an infected population and our vaccines are still effective against it. Can you not get both at the same time?
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If there's ever a nasal vaccine I want to get a Bane mask and just have that poo poo pumping into my nose and mouth constantly.
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Mons Hubris posted:Can you not get both at the same time? Make me air tight, daddy covid
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Mons Hubris posted:Can you not get both at the same time? Disclaimer: I'm not a virologist. If it's technically true that you can get both at the same time, it's irrelevant as long as the Delta variant remains significantly dominant. If a population is exposed to both variants, the Delta variant will crowd out the Lambda variant. Another concern would be if exposure to the Delta variant (or others) fails to confer resistance to the Lambda variant. I haven't seen any studies on that yet. As always: mask up and get your vaccines and stay away from crowds.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1422699807228022788 dexter actually has a phd in molecular biology so I can see why he'd kick a guy out of the band over it
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And didn’t the slight connection to GBS (the syndrome) only come out within the last few weeks so therefore using that as an excuse feels like grasping at straws given he’s been eligible to have it for months. Bring back Ron Welty.
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Stink Billyums posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1422699807228022788 Not pretty fly for an unvaxxed guy
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Zugzwang posted:PCR tests are the most sensitive ones of all and are fairly unlikely to be negative two weeks after symptom onset, if indeed you had covid. Most of the false negatives come in the first week post-infection, before your body has had a chance to make enough virus. The delta variant has such a high viral load though that the false negative window is compressed. I might not have been clear, I got the PCR test on roughly day 4 of having symptoms. Ugly In The Morning posted:Also if you’re vaccinated you’ll come up positive on some antibody tests so it’s not really useful. I am not, it's not as easy to get one where I live (outside of the US).
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DickParasite posted:As concerning as Lambda and other vaccine resistant strains are, the silver-lining with Delta is that it's so contagious that it becomes the dominant strain in an infected population and our vaccines are still effective against it.  Hellblazer187 posted:I might not have been clear, I got the PCR test on roughly day 4 of having symptoms. Zugzwang fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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stab posted:Not pretty fly for an unvaxxed guy the chuds aren't alright
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Stink Billyums posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1422699807228022788 🎵Gotta keep em vaccinated
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:The guy who wrote this book participated in an experiment doing that for a month, it wrecked his health (breathing only through mouth)
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I present to you the absolute worst liberal echo chamber-ignorant op-ed of the past... week? https://twitter.com/undarkmag/status/1410531878038278146?s=20
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Wow!!!! These people whose political ethos is to try and get LESS help from the government and more and more often are electing people who isolate them further, who actively encourage anti-science conspiracies and believe anything they read on a facebook group as gospel??? You remember them? They're the same as black people, you see!!!!!! It's the government's fault!!! Rushed vaccine!!! Unprecedented speed!!!!
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i'm just a sucker without a vaccine
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Stink Billyums posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1422699807228022788 This is a really lovely headline. He's choosing not to tour with them because he can't get vaxxed for a valid medical reason; he has had Guillain Barre Syndrome since childhood.
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Stink Billyums posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1422699807228022788 Dexter owns, I didn't know he had a phd Scarodactyl posted:This book has some serious bs vibes to me. Guy is a journalist, not qualified to assess health research and has an interest in selling books. Could be He offers the breathing techniques on his page if you want to try, if you find any takedowns of his book I'd be interested https://www.mrjamesnestor.com/breath-vids
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Shayna Baszler posted:i'm just a sucker without a vaccine 
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Mons Hubris posted:Can you not get both at the same time? It's not directly related to getting multiple known variants at the same time from multiple other people but I thought it was interesting that technically nobody only has one variant. As I understand it when they sequence the viral RNA from someone they aren't just taking an entire virus particle's RNA, sequencing it, and saying that's the person's variant. They're sequencing chunks of RNA from many many virus particles in a sample and then fitting them together into a single 'consensus' sequence by figuring out which chunks at which position are most frequent in all the particles. So the person might have tons of different subtly different versions of the virus but they figure out which is most frequent. This study did sequencing of virus from a single person over time and showed that as the immune system responded the virus actually changed in the patient to become more immune resistant (which makes sense evolutionarily if you figure that the virus is always mutating a bit and those mutations that better avoid the immune system might be more likely to infect cells). So the virus had the upper hand for a while before finally the immune system managed to clamp down. But in the process the person technically had several different variants. There's some thought that some of the variants of concern like Alpha/Gamma developed this way in an immunocompromised person whose immune system couldn't quite clamp down. There's also concern that partially vaccinated people might lead to similar mutations. the study posted:We found that the burden of SARS-CoV-2 RNA declined substantially but irregularly between days 9 and 17 (Fig 5A). Between days 9 and 13, virus RNA declined by nearly 4 orders of magnitude, from 2.83 x 106 (N2)– 3.0 x 106 (N1) copies/mL to 3.14 x 102 (N1)– 3.86 x 102 (N2) copies/mL. However, virus RNA subsequently increased to 1.11 x 104 (N2)– 1.35 x 104 (N1) copies/mL on day 15, before declining again on day 17. This pattern was associated with the emergence of 2 minor variant SARS-CoV-2 haplotypes on day 11 and 4 minor variant haplotypes on day 15 (Fig 5B). Strikingly, these variants together bore 3 independent non-synonymous mutations within a single NTD epitope. On day 11, a C-to-T transition causing an H-to-Y change at amino acid residue 146 was found in 10/882 (1.1%) genomes sequenced. 7of7 fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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resting bort face posted:You can't convince me this isn't just some kink/ASMR bullshit Okay it doesn't look like it though? Like at all
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Dexter owns, I didn't know he had a phd Don't forget he's also insanely rich and doesn't like, give anything back to anyone ever really  edit: Except the music he gave us, such as Cruising California (Bumpin' In My Trunk)!! AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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He has a Philanthropy section on his wiki page rather than a Controversy one, so he’s better than most punk band frontmen.
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EL BROMANCE posted:He has a Philanthropy section on his wiki page rather than a Controversy one, so he’s got a better PR manager than most punk band frontmen.
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AHH F/UGH posted:edit: Except the music he gave us, such as Cruising California (Bumpin' In My Trunk)!! That song rules. That whole album was great.
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Please don't call The Offspring a punk band, tiaHow are u posted:That song rules. That whole album was great. At least put effort into your trolling dude
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AHH F/UGH posted:Please don't call The Offspring a punk band, tia Last decade (ugh, two decades) can’t take those 80s and early to mid 90s records away.
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Some say that even Ixnay isn't worth listening to but I'd say even Americana had its moments (Pay The Man etc), but after that it was basically a straight run to the grave
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Americana is the album that absolutely crushed me in how disappointed I was when I bought it. Worse than a post Insomniac Green Day. Anyway, I’m hoping the general ‘pro vax’ punk mentality (for the most part anyway) means I can eventually go to Fest this year and have a good time and none of the old man bands I like get sick and die.
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