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I'm sorry Maya I love you but oh my god it is so nice to have an actually competent assistant for once
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At least in the first game you could make the argument Susato is more competent than Ryunosuke. Ryu has Nick's trademarked hunt down every single line of thought, no matter how initially dumb it may seem, but Susato has every single relevant factoid, law, bylaw and precedent in that little book of hers and a full index in her head. Seriously woman, what's that book, the Encyclopedia Britannica pocketbook edition? Are you a senior woodchuck (Tokyo branch)?
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Aug 5, 2021 12:45
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I think the implication is that it's a different book each time but they just reuse the animation. You can just as well interpret it as the magical book of everything though because that's funny
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Aug 5, 2021 13:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLu1RNNv9Y
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Aug 5, 2021 14:02
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(minor GAA 2-3 spoilers) best visual gag so far: Harebrayne saying he got his work published in a "little science journal" and pulling out a literally tiny sized science journal. that's like some poo poo that would be in a Zucker film or something
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Aug 5, 2021 14:24
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Amppelix posted:I think the implication is that it's a different book each time but they just reuse the animation.
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Aug 5, 2021 14:32
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Amppelix posted:I think the implication is that it's a different book each time but they just reuse the animation. This is Ace Attorney, the judge is the judge because they couldn't fit sprites for extra judges on a 2001 GBA cart. The tertiary NPCs had like two sprites each. So yeah, that's absolutely a small book of everything.
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Aug 5, 2021 17:13
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I couldn't figure out the pun gimmick of (1-5) Ringo and Nash until they pulled out fruits and ate them. Ringo is Japanese for apple and nashi is pear! That's pretty good British/Japanese wordplay there! edit: more or less done with the first game (bad guy has confessed everything at least). Good mysteries in this one; they all break from the formula in interesting ways. However, it has been a grave disappointment in terms of witness breakdown animations. Also, I was expecting a final courtroom deduction from Sholmes but we didn't even get one outside of the first one with Graydon (unless that's coming up later before the ending) Argue fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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Aug 5, 2021 17:52
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Argue posted:I couldn't figure out the pun gimmick of (1-5) Ringo and Nash until they pulled out fruits and ate them. Ringo is Japanese for apple and nashi is pear! That's pretty good British/Japanese wordplay there! 1-5: Apples and pears is also Cockney rhyming slang for stairs. Which they have in their house. Because they're goons. There are fewer crazy breakdown animations as a deliberate art choice. Personally I am fine with that, it was getting to be a bit much.
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Aug 5, 2021 23:14
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Also there were only three actual murderers in the game and one of them got off
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Are you just talking about Adventures?
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Yes.
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Aug 6, 2021 00:27
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I know I'm not the first, second, or even third person to say this, but I just got to the 1-5 trial jury reveal and I think I broke into laughter for a solid three minutes.
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Aug 6, 2021 01:32
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2-2: Holy poo poo, Soseki and Shamspeare's argument was seriously "who would win in a fight, Romeo or Juliet," ahahahahahaha
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Aug 6, 2021 01:51
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Well, I've completed both games, and I think this might be up there as one of my favorite AA games. I still need to put my thoughts and stuff together about everything that's happened, but I will say (Case 2-5 ending spoilers) loving Sholmes popping up as a hologram and casually going "hey so me and iris basically invented a way to transmit images and we've been streaming the entire trial to the queen" was so very, very dumb, but I love it anyways. I couldn't stop cackling over how absolutely absurd it was, even for AA standards!
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2-3, so unimportant I am not sure it needs a spoiler tag, but just in case: What the heck is that hat, Iris?
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Aug 6, 2021 02:06
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2-2 Trial: oh my god the same entire jury (except Joan Garrideb for obvious reasons) from the trial two days earlier, I'm losing my mind
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Aug 6, 2021 02:08
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lmao the pawnbroker if you even think about stealing something i'll take this gun and dome myself before you can even blink.
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Finally got around to starting this up, managed to beat the first case last night. There’s been a question nagging at me: why would she have gone to all of the trouble of staging a murder by gunshot when there was the much easier solution of just claiming that he must have died of natural causes or an allergic reaction? The case pretty thoroughly established that until her research notes were filed into the record, no one had thought of curare, so presumably all she would have had to do was throw a bit of a show about realizing he was dead and nobody would have ever been the wiser to the murder.
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Aug 6, 2021 17:23
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I don't think it's that odd. She had carefully engineered things such that no one would know she had been present at all. The reason no one had thought of curare was that the police did not think of poison at all and Hosonaga had to do the tests in secret using a private resource. If Wilson didn't have a gunshot wound they might have considered poison. Which would be fine if no one knew Brett had been there, but since Naruhodo had witnessed her at the scene, she might become a suspect, and if she was a suspect, the police may well have investigated her and learned of her poison research. As it turns out the police were ordered to ignore her involvement as much as possible, but I don't think she knew that going in.
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1-1 minor nitpick, curare was unknown in Japan at the time so the police wouldn't have caught it anyway. It's a decently clever if convoluted plan but basically every case can be called convoluted.
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Brandfarlig posted:1-1 minor nitpick, curare was unknown in Japan at the time so the police wouldn't have caught it anyway. It's a decently clever if convoluted plan but basically every case can be called convoluted. I think the logic is if the police were thinking Wilson died of poison, and found out that the person eating with him when he died was researching a new, unknown kind of poison, they might put two and two together.
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2-3 Trial early: I think this defendant may be worse than Larry! Edit: after 2nd day of investigations: Aren't a certain poor ballerina and burly crew member owed some freedom given their case has a literal habeas corpus problem? OddObserver fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Aug 7, 2021 |
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Aug 7, 2021 00:03
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I started it up and just beat the first case myself. Good fun. Okay so am I the only one whose first thought regarding the burn and Wilson's lack of reaction to being shot were attributable to still being under the effects of anesthetic? I don't think I really understood how he was burned like that in the first place since he wouldn't have been handling the plate I think but... Anyhoo, the first OBJECTION gave me chills. Gonna see that racist lady again I bet. Starting just the intro to the second case and like... Dang Ryunosuke, you got Maya'd twice and Kazuma got Mia'd. Just off to a great start of things with you.
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Finished the first game, just wrapped up the first case of the second game. these games are so loving good holy poo poo. While I love the original trilogy, there's a few cases in it that are more of a slog to get through than anything (hi, turnabout big top). But this has been nothing but high points, it's all so great!!!
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Aug 7, 2021 08:11
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1-5 I kept waiting for the telegram juror to interrupt and say the “music box” was playing morse code but she never did. Sometimes this game is so overly obtuse while in my head I’m screaming for it to get on with it.
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ZeeBoi posted:1-5 I kept waiting for the telegram juror to interrupt and say the “music box” was playing morse code but she never did. Sometimes this game is so overly obtuse while in my head I’m screaming for it to get on with it. You may not have gotten this far yet but there are very good reasons why she didn't.
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Regy Rusty posted:You may not have gotten this far yet but there are very good reasons why she didn't. yeah I just got to the fact that the box needs two discs, my bad 
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2-1 "For a brief moment, when that evidence was presented, I had a flicker of doubt about your innocence. I have failed you as your defense attorney, and beg your forgiveness." I love this world edit: "There is no way this woman could have been stabbed from behind. As evidence, I submit this photo, taken by this innocent third party, who was standing in a hidden area directly behind her." Argue fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 7, 2021 |
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Aug 7, 2021 17:31
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finished the first game, that was "EXTRATERRATORIAL RIGHTS" levels of dragging a case the gently caress out and the peephole thing was kind of a cop-out, but it was worth it for the end where ryunosuke is like "I WILL LITERALLY COMMIT HIGH TREASON RIGHT HERE TO PROTECT MY CLIENT, DO NOT TEST ME PIG" also the shulkin bros rule and that was not where i was expecting the russian revolutionary to become relevant again lmao Yinlock fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 7, 2021 19:08
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At the end of 1-5 Ginny with her own firework oh my gaaaawd 
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Ryunosuke committing high treason to save Gina is on par with Apollo bringing down the government in 6
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The music has been consistently excellent so far but (1-5) Graydon’s final cross examination theme was the real standout so far. I really dragged it out even though the solution is really obvious. Also I can see how Japanese players would be pissed off on the original release with so many plot points still dangling, but the games really benefit from being in a compilation format. Case 2-1 has a cool premise so I’m excited to see where it goes from here.
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Aug 7, 2021 21:34
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Post 2-3: Well, that certainly puts the whole "My Katana tells me to slice up evil" bit in a different light, doesn't it? Also I love Van Zieks kinda sitting there on sidelines at end of all drama
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Aug 7, 2021 23:07
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It's always extremely funny when you pan the camera to reveal Sholmes doing something ridiculous, but it's downright unsettling when he appears on the same screen and I can't tell when it happens. I swear the game is psychic and only loads his model when i loving blink I thought
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Haha, the 2-1 breakdown/takedown
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Aug 8, 2021 03:53
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2-1: man I had to story mode that fuckin pen emblem after like an hour of beating my head against the wall while dad is like "just press him lol", WHY WOULD THERE BE AN EMBLEM THERE, WHO EVEN DOES THAT
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Yinlock posted:2-1: man I had to story mode that fuckin pen emblem after like an hour of beating my head against the wall while dad is like "just press him lol", WHY WOULD THERE BE AN EMBLEM THERE, WHO EVEN DOES THAT Sounds like someone didn't examine the evidence. Always examine the evidence.
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Aug 8, 2021 04:14
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in the middle of 2-2 and uhh holy poo poo did I just walk in on Olive trying to commit suicide??  This really is the loving emotional whiplash game, isn't it
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Waffleman_ posted:Sounds like someone didn't examine the evidence. I examined the poo poo out of the evidence, that was just something that isn't A Thing so I missed it entirely Though examining evidence in general is probably my biggest issue with the game only because it tends to give away important plot twists way in advance and you're just waiting for the story to recognize that you know whatever info you just uncovered. It takes a ton of weight away from the court segments Like with 2-1 you can figure out the entire case in like the first 5 minutes just by finding the poison article and examining the pen, then seeing the dude with the notable ink stain on his arm e: though tbf that's more of a writing flaw than anything wrong with the mechanic itself started 2-2 and oh my God I forgot about that guy Yinlock fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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