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Jazz Marimba posted:i give online lessons (dm me), and/or start following some drum youtubers e.g. mike johnston (linear licks), rob brown (watch exclusively at 2x speed), stephen’s drum shed (lotta great older vids), drumeo, etc I bought your.book already so sweet! I don't have pm but do you have email or does your site have it? Thanks
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Fixins posted:After like a decade I got my first drum kit, a electric, alesis nitro mesh, the other day and I've fallen in love with playing. My issue is there's no musical teachers around where I live so I'm kinda bones on that part. Granted I have about 14 years of guitar and bass playing so I'm musically okay but I wanna get decent at drums. Are there any good online resources I should use? Are you looking to just learn technique? If you are looking for lessons on rhythm, I generally suggest (if you are a Rock drummer anyway) learning the Back in Black album by AC/DC. Every song is pretty much 4/4, boom tap, boom tap, but you'll learn how to play in the pocket. I've known drummers that can play La Villa Strangiato note for note but they can't keep a simple beat to save their life. If AC/DC isn't you thing then I'd suggest early Beatles tunes.
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Jul 10, 2021 18:58
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Musical theory with regard to drum theory and playing techniques I guess
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Jul 10, 2021 19:08
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Fixins posted:I bought your.book already so sweet! I don't have pm but do you have email or does your site have it? Thanks wow i need to make my email more obvious cuz i just checked my site and couldn’t find it despite designing the whole thing  email: courtney@courtneyannemcnally.com
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Jul 11, 2021 21:39
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Sent you a email earlier!
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Jul 11, 2021 22:42
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I finally went ahead and bought EZ Drummer 2. It's a lot less customizable than I expected. No midi map for example - I can pick "Roland" from the list, but I can't specifically pick which of my drums will trigger which samples. That being said, the drums and particularly the snares sound great. The sensation I get from triggering EZDrummer from my kit is that I'm playing some very professionally mic'd up drums. It doesn't necessarily *feel* as realistic as my TD-27 module sounds but it sure sounds great.
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Jul 20, 2021 22:18
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Jazz Marimba posted:wow i need to make my email more obvious cuz i just checked my site and couldn’t find it despite designing the whole thing That little drum kit you drew over the sheet music sample on your website is cute as heck.  I didn't realize the notation lined up with (rough) actual drum position that well. Drumcute.
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Jul 20, 2021 23:01
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I took my first lesson today with Jazz. Had a blast and learned alot!  Question though, if there any software that lets you plot out drum notation if I wanted to just not things down? I'm sure I could easily download and print some blank bar sheets but in lazy and wondered if there's a easier way to do it!
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Jul 21, 2021 00:26
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If you mean create sheet music, I use MuseScore for that. There's a bit of a learning curve but I haven't found a better (free) solution and can answer any basic getting-started questions.
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Jul 21, 2021 03:09
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Yep, perfect!!
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Jul 21, 2021 12:43
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Oh also, anyone have a link for the discord? The link posted earlier expired
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Jul 22, 2021 03:56
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Takes No Damage posted:That little drum kit you drew over the sheet music sample on your website is cute as heck. thanks! the original hand drawn version was by a guy on fb named Stephen Snodgrass, I got his permission to use it and I commissioned a goon friend (nem0? I actually dk their username) to make a fancy digital version Fixins posted:Oh also, anyone have a link for the discord? The link posted earlier expired https://discord.gg/b7jThFcu
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Jul 22, 2021 15:18
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Hey boys! Wanna get a kit, just dip my toes in the water, never played percussion. I have a room that would be a semi-dedicated space for the kit but it is not very large. Unless I realllllly get into it don’t have space for some massive setup. https://denver.craigslist.org/msg/d/westminster-pearl-roadshow-piece/7352458556.html How’s this look for a starter rig??
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Jul 24, 2021 18:18
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hobbez posted:Hey boys! Wanna get a kit, just dip my toes in the water, never played percussion. Looks like its been deleted by the seller but the Roadshow series is a little high end. Search for Pearl Export and you're likely to see a bunch of them. Exports are great starter kits that don't sound like they came from a toy store.
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Jul 24, 2021 20:16
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The roadshow isn't full sized iirc
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Bonzo posted:Looks like its been deleted by the seller but the Roadshow series is a little high end. Search for Pearl Export and you're likely to see a bunch of them. Exports are great starter kits that don't sound like they came from a toy store. Cuz I bought it lol Got it for $300 when he just got it last year new for 600. It is indeed undersized with a 20 inch base drum. To be honest, I have somewhat limited space and am happy to have a smaller kit for my first set up. It sounds just fine to me and I can upgrade down the line when I’ve proven I’m going to stick with it to my wife (and myself) at which point I can justify dedicating more space. I’m stoked! I may get an in person instructor but I signed up for Drumeo’s beginner online courses to get the ball rolling. Anyone have any other online course catalogs they recommend in particular?
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Jul 24, 2021 23:35
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Fixins posted:The roadshow isn't full sized iirc Ahhh poo poo you're right. Not sure what series I was confusing it with. hobbez posted:Cuz I bought it lol Post some pics when you can!
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hobbez posted:I’m stoked! I may get an in person instructor but I signed up for Drumeo’s beginner online courses to get the ball rolling. Anyone have any other online course catalogs they recommend in particular? If you're new to percussion it is recommended to get at least a few in-person lessons to go over basic form stuff like proper posture and how to hold drumsticks. It may sound silly, but if you start teaching yourself with poor form at best you'll develop a bunch of bad habits that will need to be unlearned later, and at worst you could actually hurt yourself with poo poo like repetitive stress injury and finger nerve damage. You can learn a lot of stuff through Youtube but things like this are best handled by a real person who can watch you play and offer real-time instruction. And yeah post pics, everyone who follows this thread is a sick drum freak that just wants to buy more drum kits and would do so if we had unlimited space. Living vicariously through other people's spare bedrooms is all some of us have 
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Takes No Damage posted:And yeah post pics, everyone who follows this thread is a sick drum freak that just wants to buy more drum kits and would do so if we had unlimited space. Living vicariously through other people's spare bedrooms is all some of us have Our drummer is moving away and I was elected by the band, as the bassist, to take his place. I've played drums in lovely punk bands and pretty much told our drummer what to play so I gotta get good and fast! To that end, I gotta choose between two sets of cheap e-drums so that I can practice away from our practice (LOUD) space. One of them is a used Yamaha DTXpress II kit which is probably good enough, but I'm wondering whether going for mesh heads on the similarly-priced new Alesis Nitro Mesh would be worth it? I like the Yamaha cuz it looks like it was made for adults (a few negative reviews of the Alesis talked about it being rough for people over 6' tall and I'm 6' 7") and if it had mesh-heads it'd be a done deal. Just curious if the mesh heads is worth sacrificing pretty much everything else about the kit.
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scuz posted:Well buckle up, buttercup, I got a real humdinger comin your way (not really but hey...): There are others in the thread with a lot more e-drum experience than me, but from what little I do know I can say mesh heads >>>>> solid pads. They may not be worth sacrificing everything but they're worth a lot. Also pop in to the Discord if you're in a hurry, usually a few people chatting in there every afternoon.
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Jul 27, 2021 19:01
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https://twitter.com/MetalHammer/status/1420133685861433346 I wasn't much of a Slipknot fan but I was a terminally online little drummer kid so Jordison was pretty legendary among my peers. 46 is way too young for anybody, but the disease taking his drumming and then (presumably, no cause of death has been released) his life like that is especially unfair. RIP FBS fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Jul 27, 2021 23:46
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Also not a fan of the music but ooof that is rough. Always bums me out a bit when I hear of someone with a physical/coordination based career like athletes or musicians getting degenerative diseases like that
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Jul 28, 2021 01:33
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RIP. Was never exactly a Slipknot fan but it always seemed like he was very good at what he did and it came easily. Felt awful for him when I learned why he was no longer in the band. scuz posted:E-drum stuff I’d go with the Alesis out of the two. Yamahas are better quality but that one is OLD - i actually had that one probably 20 years ago. You could also look for a used TD-4 or similar with a mesh snare.
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Jul 29, 2021 23:57
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Went to the good ol' music-go-round yesterday convinced that I was going to be leaving with that Yamaha but wound up with the Alesis instead. The Yamaha's snare was a single-zone and the mesh heads on the Alesis were just sooooo much better and the sounds the Yamaha made weren't good enough to justify saving $50. Thanks for the guidance, folks!
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I was thinking of asking this in the Music Theory Thread but opted for it here instead, for some reason. I guess maybe I'm more curious as to what kind of examples drummers, in particular, will give here. I'm looking for good examples of metric modulation in music. Curiously enough, this is coming up because of an analysis error I often run into in my DJ software, one that I know other DJs deal with a lot. The software analyzes new songs and writes a tempo grid to them; the grid is essential for anything DJs do in the modern world, from hotcues to looping to automated synchronization - purists will tell you it's a crutch and you shouldn't rely on it, and they're right in some sense, but I tend to ignore that gatekeeping nonsense and see it as another tool that can help make the technical aspects of the job easier, to free up the mind and hands for more creativity. ANYWAY, metric modulation, and this fascinating analysis error. Sometimes you'll get a song with a triplet rhythm. This happens occasionally with tunes that have strong dotted-note rhythms too, but most often it's a tune with a triplet feel. The software hears the triplets as quarter or eighth notes, and incorrectly assumes it's a different tempo. Here's a good example, a dubstep tune with an extremely strong triplet feel. It's at 140BPM halftime, but the software will probably hear the triplets and write the grid at either 105BPM or 210BPM. Well, what is a triplet feel anyway but a 6/8 rhythm? So there's the rub. I'm trying to find more creative ways to change tempo in a DJ set than simply stretching a song to oblivion or finding a song that has a baked-in tempo change. More than just for my own experimentation, I'm looking for some examples that can help me illustrate the concept to... well, students I guess, as I'm thinking of putting together some intermediate-level beatmaking/DJing tutorials and it's a subject I've not heard addressed in others' tutorials. I imagine there's a lot of metal and progressive rock that shows metric modulation techniques, but I'm open to anything. Interestingly, I've only ever heard it pulled off once in EDM, in this remix.
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Great topic, I love messing with metric modulation when I'm drumming to stuff. Usually shifting something that was intended to as 6/8 to a 4/4. And then you can double and half-time it and stuff. I can't think of any songs off the top of my head but here's a video of someone doing it to Tears for Fears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBOIuUKO1w Here's a drumless track that I love messing around with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et-mrP9BkLE
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Aug 6, 2021 18:14
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The middle section of He Films The Clouds pt. 2 by Maybeshewill comes to mind. https://youtu.be/lVopcyHcEgU
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Aug 6, 2021 18:35
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My man Yogev is all about breaking down complex rhythms, mostly trying to figure out what time signature metal songs are in that are nothing but modulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcsAAPdJTBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYeGJzJMdU But he also does more proggy stuff like Porcupine Tree and Radiohead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxvtLMqWkI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm0McZi2zXw
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Aug 7, 2021 01:02
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forgive the basic rear end question but how do i know when to use high/mid/low/floor toms in a beat? i'm feeling really limited just by doing kick snare patterns
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Aug 8, 2021 03:11
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Hmm, I would generally err more on mid and floor toms on fills. There’s lots of good YouTube videos on easy fills to get you started.
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Aug 8, 2021 03:48
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Really just depends on what fits in with the rest of the music. Not that it's ever necessarily wrong to work the toms in, but you can do just about anything with kick/snare/HiHat patterns so don't feel like you need to force more drums into the mix. Having said that, I love toms so here's a couple of songs I'm practicing now that feature toms in the regular beat of the song (rather than just during fills) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF3reVVUbio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9d-1d0ltCM
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AndrewP posted:Hmm, I would generally err more on mid and floor toms on fills. this is that old stack overflow software engineer thing, where you ask how to do something and instead of getting helpful information, you get someone questioning why you’re trying to do it in the first place lots of songs i like have a lot of toms in the drum beat and i want to know how to do that specifically because currently i only really know super simple beats and how they work, and i want to spice up my songs
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You could always ride the floor tom instead of the hats/ride. Is that what you're thinking? When I first started playing, there was a definite distinction among myself and other beginner musicians that I played with between "regular beats" and "more of a cool tribal feel" which was basically just eighth notes on a floor tom and using the rack toms instead of the snare. If you really want to mesh together kick/snare patterns with toms, try throwing in random tom hits on up beats or small single beat fills during your kick/snare patterns.
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landgrabber posted:forgive the basic rear end question but how do i know when to use high/mid/low/floor toms in a beat? i'm feeling really limited just by doing kick snare patterns I'd recommend listening to more genres of music, especially latin stuff. For example, in something like a bossa or a rumba, it's not uncommon to hear two eighth note high or mid toms on "4 +" which is meant to mimic conga drums.
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When I first started playing drums I pretty much only thought of toms as tools for fills. How misguided I was; when I started getting more into it in college I discovered a lot of music that was tom-rhythm-heavy and became obsessed with it. As others have said, just try playing eighths on your floor tom like you would your hat or ride. Mix it up with the occasional rack tom hit on beats offset from the snare. Also, flams are your friend, in general but especially when you're playing with toms. Tom flams immediately make everything sound significantly more tribal and awesome. Thanks guys for the metric modulation examples, I especially love that Tears for Fears cover. Incredible. gently caress I miss playing drums.
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I've been playing for 20+ years and I still think of toms as just for fills lol I'll use toms on some patterns that aren't exactly fills, but I pretty much never play any kind of groove with toms.
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When I started playing earlier this year, I bought a Donner DED200 (wanted to make sure I stuck with it before investing more), and I think I broke the kick drum sensor. Sequential eighth notes at faster than 60 ~ 70 bpms does not register consistently. I could probably replace the sensor, but since this is a cheapo set that I have other issues with, I am looking to replace it with something more legitimate. A cursory look at kits makes it seem like electronic drums tend to either be very cheap or expensive with not much in between. Do goons have a good recommendation for something around the 700 ~ 1000USD price point? I live in a one bedroom apartment so space is a concern as well. I do not need anything fancier than two rack toms, a floor tom, and one of each cymbal. Thanks for the help on this! I have another related question. I mostly listen to classic rock and punk rock. Music genres that rely on acoustic drums. Are there musicians / genres of music, where electronic kits are regularly used in performance or do people just use drum machines at that point? While I primarily play electronic for practical reasons, I find myself getting more interested / invested in my electronic kit.
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Usually see electronic kits used in combo with acoustic drums. I've seen electronic kits with real cymbals and acoustic kits with just a couple of pads to trigger backing tracks or more electronic drum samples for a specific sound. I remember playing some local shows and every now and then, a band would show up on a bill with a full e drum kit and you could see the sound man take a deep breath before having to deal with it. E kits have their usage but mostly for practicality like the church gig I used to play often. Just easier to mix in when dealing with a large room and sound bleed.
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Bored Online posted:When I started playing earlier this year, I bought a Donner DED200 (wanted to make sure I stuck with it before investing more), and I think I broke the kick drum sensor. Sequential eighth notes at faster than 60 ~ 70 bpms does not register consistently. I could probably replace the sensor, but since this is a cheapo set that I have other issues with, I am looking to replace it with something more legitimate. A cursory look at kits makes it seem like electronic drums tend to either be very cheap or expensive with not much in between. Do goons have a good recommendation for something around the 700 ~ 1000USD price point? I live in a one bedroom apartment so space is a concern as well. I do not need anything fancier than two rack toms, a floor tom, and one of each cymbal. Thanks for the help on this! I'd go Roland. They're the most expensive, but it's because they're well-built and don't break. If you want new and don't need all mesh, Roland TD-17 is $1000 and is a professional-quality kit. You can upgrade pads or module individually if you want down the road. As for your other question, the big example I can think of is Michael Schack. He's basically a DJ that plays live drums and controls it all from his kit. (He's also a Roland rep but I mean why wouldn't they hire this guy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA08KTMgSag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnBnBPwFwB8
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KJ Sawka streams using an e-kit https://youtu.be/v1MpEcjxS6s
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