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jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

I didn't.

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Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there
The first thing I noticed was that in the time between drawing the key art and finishing the model, the character apparently grew out his hair and beard. It's now Alex Denton on top and Big Boss on the chin.

argosaxelcaos
Apr 26, 2017

Bonus plagiarism because the gun is from CP2077, because why limit your plagiarism to 1 franchise?

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Ah poo poo, yeah that was me, sorry. Didn't mean for it to get everywhere and make a mess. :(

Twobirds
Oct 17, 2000

The only talking mouse in all of Britannia.
When you order your augs from Wish.com

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
I saw someone on reddit make a case that the immersive sim genre should be referred to as "Deus-Esque"

I will be doing this going forward

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Clever, but kinda ignores Ultima Underworld, Thief, System Shock and all the others before Deus Ex

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

They are search action games

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
“[Word] action” is such a terrible genre descriptor.

KRILLIN IN THE NAME
Mar 25, 2006

:ssj:goku i won't do what u tell me:ssj:


deus esque roguelike with metroidvania elements

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
what about the crafting

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

site posted:

what about the crafting
Craft ladders with LAMs. That's what they're for. Ladder Ascent Materials.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Leap Ahead Materials in multiplayer (I dunno if LAM jumping is a thing in singleplayer?)

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Ugly In The Morning posted:

“[Word] action” is such a terrible genre descriptor.

But "[Words] action" rules

See: Tactical espionage action :colbert:

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
What game exists that is so boring, that the word action could not be used to describe it in any way?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


"action" is the opposite of "tactics"

MysticalMachineGun posted:

See: Tactical espionage action :colbert:

tactical is a completely different third thing

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Doc Hawkins posted:

"action" is the opposite of "tactics"

tactical is a completely different third thing

Actical Espionaction tacticage :colbert:

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there
the last couple MGS games were about "tactical espionage operations"

E:

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

What game exists that is so boring, that the word action could not be used to describe it in any way?

Animal Crossing

Captain Walker fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Aug 9, 2021

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

What game exists that is so boring, that the word action could not be used to describe it in any way?

There's a whole genre of tedium games - Viscera Cleanup Detail, Hardspace Shipbreaker, the Truck Simulator games, etc.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


action games are the set of games which inaction will cause you to lose

platformers without fataal countdown timers are not action games

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

One of my favourite things on these forums is reading people's reminiscence about games like Deus Ex, Dark Souls, etc... Including those who master the Sniper Rifle and use it as a silent death stick.

I was finishing off Chateau DuClare last night and struggling with the MJ12 arseholes with my silenced, modded up sniper and wondering why it was still taking 3-4 shots to take them down. I, uh, hadn't actually increased my skill level :sweatdrop:

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

aniviron posted:

There's a whole genre of tedium games - Viscera Cleanup Detail, Hardspace Shipbreaker, the Truck Simulator games, etc.

As a EHS specialist who loves their job I’m gonna dispute Hardspace as “tedium”

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

MysticalMachineGun posted:

One of my favourite things on these forums is reading people's reminiscence about games like Deus Ex, Dark Souls, etc... Including those who master the Sniper Rifle and use it as a silent death stick.

I was finishing off Chateau DuClare last night and struggling with the MJ12 arseholes with my silenced, modded up sniper and wondering why it was still taking 3-4 shots to take them down. I, uh, hadn't actually increased my skill level :sweatdrop:

I love when people play old classic games for the first time and post about their progress

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I've never used the sniper rifle, I have no idea where the semi colon key is on a keyboard.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Gaius Marius posted:

I've never used the sniper rifle, I have no idea where the semi colon key is on a keyboard.

I’ve never used the GEP gun

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
Fully non-lethal, so none of that nonsense for me. It brings me joy to roleplay as a cop that doesn't shoot people

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Keith Atherton posted:

I love when people play old classic games for the first time and post about their progress

This is like my seventh time


Gaius Marius posted:

I've never used the sniper rifle, I have no idea where the semi colon key is on a keyboard.

I've bound it to [ for this very reason. Still a bit unwieldy

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

It brings me joy to roleplay as a cop that doesn't shoot people

In the United States?! That is a bold defiance of established trends.

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I've bound it to [ for this very reason. Still a bit unwieldy

I think I bound scope and laser to F and V. I forget which is which, though. There's enough convenient letters to the right of WASD to use, you've just got to start making your own system from scratch.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I think my problem was I couldn't bind it to Mouse 4 or 5 which is where my modern gamer brain wants it on

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

Fully non-lethal, so none of that nonsense for me. It brings me joy to roleplay as a cop that doesn't shoot people

I always try and keep things relatively bloodless. NSF, Unatco, US Soldiers, and Chinese Soldiers get a pass. But it's open season on Mib's and MJ12.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

The marines at the sub base being chill really helps

Kevin Palpatine
Dec 20, 2017
I haven't played the original DE in a long time and was hoping to go all stealth, but the ammo for the shock prod is scarce and the crossbow seems a bit temperamental (and ammo for it is also scarce). Are you just expected to cheat your way to more ammo if you want to stealth? I think you can use the baton, but doesn't it send guys away yelling if you don't hit them just right?

edit: nonlethal run...at least, for the time being

Item Getter
Dec 14, 2015

Gaius Marius posted:

I think my problem was I couldn't bind it to Mouse 4 or 5 which is where my modern gamer brain wants it on

I always try and keep things relatively bloodless. NSF, Unatco, US Soldiers, and Chinese Soldiers get a pass. But it's open season on Mib's and MJ12.

Also of course the game encourages you to be non-lethal during the UNATCO section but they mostly stopped bothering to do that by the time MJ12 becomes the main enemy.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I never used the Prod for more than Liberty my first time through the game. And the Crossbow is just poo poo. Use the Prod and aim for the lower back, a bit lower than the sweet spot in Thief

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Kevin Palpatine posted:

I haven't played the original DE in a long time and was hoping to go all stealth, but the ammo for the shock prod is scarce and the crossbow seems a bit temperamental (and ammo for it is also scarce). Are you just expected to cheat your way to more ammo if you want to stealth? I think you can use the baton, but doesn't it send guys away yelling if you don't hit them just right?

edit: nonlethal run...at least, for the time being

Stealth and nonlethal are two different words. Have you considered that you don't need to neutralize every enemy on the map? Yes the prod's ammo is scarce, just walk past people.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Serephina posted:

Stealth and nonlethal are two different words. Have you considered that you don't need to neutralize every enemy on the map? Yes the prod's ammo is scarce, just walk past people.

Yep, avoidance is the answer here but also in France and beyond I'm finding lots of prod ammo

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Yep, avoidance is the answer here but also in France and beyond I'm finding lots of prod ammo

Remember that they're police. Stick em with the prod.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Stick with the prod. Prod with the prod.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

barbecue at the folks posted:

Stick with the prod. Prod with the prod.

BEANS...might be useful

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Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Kevin Palpatine posted:

the crossbow seems a bit temperamental (and ammo for it is also scarce)

*One* tranq dart is enough take down anyone except armored MJ12, it just takes time. Resist the urge to pincushion the target with 17 darts.

Normal crossbow bolts do as much damage at wet toothpicks, don't bother. Flare darts are worthless in vanilla but set the target on fire in shifter/biomod.

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