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YggiDee posted:Just google "TWEWY [pin name]" and you'll find, like, four charts but I don't recommend doing that until you're finished the game because, like, spoilers. Yeah of course, I'm just surprised I got it completely by chance haha
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Far as I can tell, evolutions are always the next one in line in the Pins section in the Records but mutations can skip ahead or even backwards sometimes. Disco Divekick is pin no 32, for example, but it mutates into Killer Princess which is pin no 28. This does make it harder to figure out how to get what you're missing sometimes if you wanna get all 333.Larryb posted:Oh yeah, I remember someone mentioning that before. Is there a guide out there that explains which characters can evolve certain pins? The only sidequest on W3D6 give a Social Network reward that tells you.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:24
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Lotus Aura posted:Far as I can tell, evolutions are always the next one in line in the Pins section in the Records but mutations can skip ahead or even backwards sometimes. Disco Divekick is pin no 32, for example, but it mutates into Killer Princess which is pin no 28. This does make it harder to figure out how to get what you're missing sometimes if you wanna get all 333. Sounds useful, where’s the quest giver?
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Aug 7, 2021 19:25
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By Tower Records, just outside garagara and Vegelovers.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:26
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The hands off ability is such a lovely one. I just spent like 10-15 minutes thinking my game was broken because Noise wouldn't fight me.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:28
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FireWorksWell posted:That's a valid point with hindsight. I didn't necessarily see that as foreshadowing considering [sub]Kanon is nothing but friendly to you while her members were all dicks, unless that's also foreshadowing[/spoiler] Pretty sure that's just him being an othello/reversi lunatic.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:39
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:The hands off ability is such a lovely one. I just spent like 10-15 minutes thinking my game was broken because Noise wouldn't fight me. The description is incredibly misleading, yeah. I initially thought it meant "disables the countdown until battles automatically begin after you grab a Noise symbol," but no. For what it's worth, you're not the only one who's equipped that only to wonder "is my game broken"—at least two times in the TWEWY Discord, people have asked "what's going on, why won't Noise fight me" before I ask "do you have the Hands Off dress on" and they realize what's up.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:44
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FireWorksWell posted:Speaking of foreshadowing, regarding the first week's final boss. Those white antlers are meant to portray he's got Plague noise in him, like with Sho and Taboo noise? I'm only on w3d2 so a yes, no or irrelevant is fine I think it's just supposed to show he's a Reaper, the way the GMs in the first game would grow claws and tails and stuff.
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Aug 7, 2021 19:46
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Speaking of, I’m still not entirely clear how Reapers work in this series. I know Players can join their ranks like Beat temporarily did in the first game but does that mean that all of them were former humans/Players? And if so, where does the extra power boost/slight change in appearance they get come from?
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Aug 7, 2021 19:57
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It’s mentioned in Week 3 of the original that because Beat didn’t personally delete anyone during his stint, he’s in serious danger of fading out as well, so it’s clear that they constantly need to be deleting Players both for sustenance and to ensure that only the cream of the crop win (which is the whole point of the game, from the Composer’s point of view).
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Aug 7, 2021 20:17
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Mutations are sometimes just pin evolutions, but other times they can completely change the properties of a pin. Where evolutions are always a straight upgrade. (Aside from an extended cooldown.)Lotus Aura posted:Far as I can tell, evolutions are always the next one in line in the Pins section in the Records but mutations can skip ahead or even backwards sometimes. Disco Divekick is pin no 32, for example, but it mutates into Killer Princess which is pin no 28. This does make it harder to figure out how to get what you're missing sometimes if you wanna get all 333. I got thrown off by a few pins because of that because I thought "oh, this mutation just evolves into a pin I already have" before I realized I was missing some slots with no other ways to fill them in. Best to check every mutation you can if you're missing slots in the pin collection just in case.
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Aug 7, 2021 21:01
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Trap wire pins just aren’t worth it for a pin slot, yeah?
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Aug 8, 2021 00:28
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 Trap Wire pins are great. They do decent damage and almost always chain things.
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Aug 8, 2021 00:33
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Regalingualius posted:It’s mentioned in Week 3 of the original that because Beat didn’t personally delete anyone during his stint, he’s in serious danger of fading out as well, so it’s clear that they constantly need to be deleting Players both for sustenance and to ensure that only the cream of the crop win (which is the whole point of the game, from the Composer’s point of view). Thats how Shibuya's reapers work, but not all of them. The Shinjuku game doesn't seem to actually have harrier reapers with Shoka saying something along the lines of getting points for doing whatever your given job is. Even in Shibuya you have the the red hoodies whose only job is putting up walls and maybe taking them back down if you do some minor task for them.
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Aug 8, 2021 00:52
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The first game also featured black hoodie Reapers that usually blocked off optional areas and became enemies you fight late in the game, those guys apparently didn’t make it into the sequel though. So did all Reapers start off as humans/Players then? Shoka does mention something later on about her and Neku basically being in the same boat (which I took to mean that she was alive at one point)
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Aug 8, 2021 00:59
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Larryb posted:The first game also featured black hoodie Reapers that usually blocked off optional areas and became enemies you fight late in the game, those guys apparently didn’t make it into the sequel though. None of the reapers have ever implied they were anything but former humans to my knowledge? Not that any really talk about themselves that much. Now the angels might be a little different but according to the secret reports even they recruit from players. In first game Kitanji says the Composer has the final say on how many resurrections actually happen in the event of a successful game, and so if they don't feel like bringing you back then you can risk the game again for another chance or apparently join the reapers if you don't want to go through that again or just plain wanna stay dead.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:12
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Caidin posted:None of the reapers have ever implied they were anything but former humans to my knowledge? Not that any really talk about themselves that much. Now the angels might be a little different but according to the secret reports even they recruit from players. In first game Kitanji says the Composer has the final say on how many resurrections actually happen in the event of a successful game, and so if they don't feel like bringing you back then you can risk the game again for another chance or apparently join the reapers if you don't want to go through that again or just plain wanna stay dead. Makes sense (hell, at the end of this game Joshua even basically tells Neku that he could have a shot at being the new Composer himself if he stayed in the UG) , so who gives them their powers upon attaining reaper status then? I assume it’s the Conductor if not the Composer themselves. Speaking of which, is it ever explained in any of the secret reports how the main Reapers in both games died in the first place? Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 8, 2021 01:21
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Presumably the Conductor or Game Master can give Reapers their powers because Beat becomes a reaper in the first game while the Composer is unavailable. And no, the games don't go into how any of the Reapers died. Hell, the first game doesn't even go into how Shiki died. It's not an angle they seem interested in exploring and its kinda irrelevant anyway.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:42
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Presumably the Conductor or Game Master can give Reapers their powers because Beat becomes a reaper in the first game while the Composer is unavailable. Oh I realize that, just curious if it was ever addressed in any supplemental material. Reapers can apparently even travel to the RG in some capacity according to a few lines in this game.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:45
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Well yeah, 777 was a Reaper and he's in a band.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:48
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All members of Def March are reapers if I recall.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:49
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SyntheticPolygon posted:All members of Def March are reapers if I recall. Oh yeah, almost forgot that was a thing in the first game too (Reapers can apparently hide their wings after all). Though the rules sort of got flipped on their head in this game since Rindo, Fret, Nagi, and Beat all got pulled into the UG thanks to Shiba while they were still alive. As far as I’m aware every other player really was already dead though Larryb fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 8, 2021 01:50
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I mean honestly I'd prefer to know if they have like, dorms or something somewhere. Unless they also just pass out into whatever limbo it is the players do between missions.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:52
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SyntheticPolygon posted:All members of Def March are reapers if I recall. It depends on the continuity. In the game, Futoshi (the tech running the errand for the cough drops and fuse) isn't a reaper and you imprint on him. In the anime, he is part of the reaper team.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:56
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Larryb posted:Oh yeah, almost forgot that was a thing in the first game too (Reapers can apparently hide their wings after all). Rhyme and shiki explicitly do not get brought over. They can see the living crew because they've got high vibes and the living crew are.still alive. Rhyme says she has to talk to Kaie through phone texts and Coco/Pinky through Reaper Creeper because they can't see them.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:
Ah yeah, that makes more sense (since if they were actually in the UG then they’d be able to see Neku)
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Aug 8, 2021 02:02
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if there's one constant in the twewy universe, it's that (major end of game spoilers) joshua is a massive dick
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Aug 8, 2021 03:37
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Artelier posted:if there's one constant in the twewy universe, it's that (major end of game spoilers) joshua is a massive dick Most Angels are it would seem aside from maybe Mr. H
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Aug 8, 2021 03:40
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so... i just finished the credits... and there are save slots???????
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Aug 8, 2021 03:56
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Larryb posted:Most Angels are it would seem aside from maybe Mr. H Have you seen what that man charges for coffee
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Good point, all Angels are bastards (Haz had his entire city wiped out for the same flimsy reasoning that Joshua once thought about Shibuya until Neku came along and Kubo was just a straight up sadist)Artelier posted:so... i just finished the credits... and there are save slots??????? Did you somehow never realize you could save manually for the entire game? Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 8, 2021 04:00
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Question about W3D2 boss. What determines who's available during the crucifixion phase? Sometimes Nagi would randomly pop in to help but mostly it was my corner pins that could be used and it wasn't enough to break any of them. I'm sure there's a strategy that doesn't require 300% remix
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FireWorksWell posted:Question about W3D2 boss. I think it might be partially based on your pin setup. That being said, it'll generally be Rindo and Shoka that get spared most of the time.
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Aug 8, 2021 04:29
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Beat W3D5. This game is so loving good.
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Aug 8, 2021 04:33
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How do you view the secret ending? I got all the reports, did all 3 big things in the post game then ran through Another Day just to be sure.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:How do you view the secret ending? I got all the reports, did all 3 big things in the post game then ran through Another Day just to be sure. Try going back and beating the Final Day again (unless there’s something else required for it, I personally just watched it on YouTube) as I remember the secret ending of the first game happening after the closing credits. Larryb fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 8, 2021 05:14
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:How do you view the secret ending? I got all the reports, did all 3 big things in the post game then ran through Another Day just to be sure. Do the actual final boss (not the boss noise version) again.
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Araxxor posted:I think it might be partially based on your pin setup. That being said, it'll generally be Rindo and Shoka that get spared most of the time. That's what I noticed, I'll have to have to work for that.
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Araxxor posted:I think it might be partially based on your pin setup. That being said, it'll generally be Rindo and Shoka that get spared most of the time. Funny enough (post game) if Shoka is in your party in Another Day the fight opens with her getting pinned 
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Just got through Week 2 and man, when i'm not trying to master some garbage pins this game's combat is super good. The boss fights especially have all been really great. Story's heating up as well though I kinda think Shoka needed another day with the party for her betrayal (and rejoing the party) to really land. Glad she's joined the team though, she's cool and having a 5th pin rules a lot.
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