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Yinlock posted:I examined the poo poo out of the evidence, that was just something that isn't A Thing so I missed it entirely It is very much a thing, especially with more expensive fountain pens
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not a bot posted:It is very much a thing, especially with more expensive fountain pens Oh, I'm just an idiot who knows nothing about fountain pens then
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Case 2-5 Thoughts! So Strongheart was just Damon Gant but on an even grander scale and it was very satisfying to tear him down, even after multiple "I AM THE LAW AND I DO WHAT IS RIGHT" declarations, I figured Queen Victoria would be dragged into things with how often Strongheart mentioned the Queen herself was kept out of the loop, so well done there genius. All in all, these two games were very very good and I am glad I got them.
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2-5: A fair amount of characters seem to be reiterations of characters from the original trilogy, but in a larger narrative. Stronghart being a grander scale Gant who you spend most of the game working for and learning about his particular sense of justice before you actually confront him is an obvious one, but likewise Kazuma is very much the Edgeworth to Ryunosuke's Nick. He's the best friend who inspired you to be a defense attorney, and ultimately your job is to dig him out of the pit he's fallen into after becoming a prosecutor, but this time you're learning his story alongside the protagonist instead of having it come up in the final case. Those are the big ones, but also Sholmes is clearly an iteration of Layton as a character who is way ahead of the plot, but written in a way that is charming and fits into the Ace Attorney universe rather than one who... does not. Soseki Natsume is the Larry Butz of the story, but without the creeping on women aspect. The one I did not pick up on until I started reading supplementary materials is that van Zieks is also iterating on a trilogy character. His final desk slam where he bangs his foot on the counter was a scrapped animation for Godot, who was also initially planned to be drinking whiskey and smoking in court and downgraded to a coffee swiller for the ratings.
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G1E3: I do love how the translation keeps jabbing at the idea of a banker in any way being a trustworthy and respectable person above reproach. Especially in London.  .
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1-4 Man, the jury selection process is... Uh... Not particularly fair, huh?
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A completely random selection of London citizens seems fair to me 
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G1-5 early on I get that I'm supposed to think "Eggert Benedict" is an obviously fake name, but this is coming from a game that completely unironically expected me to accept "Bif Strogenov" as a perfectly cromulent Russian name a mere few hours ago.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:G1-5 early on I get that I'm supposed to think "Eggert Benedict" is an obviously fake name, but this is coming from a game that completely unironically expected me to accept "Bif Strogenov" as a perfectly cromulent Russian name a mere few hours ago. Yeah, that's a way more reasonable thing than like any name in AA6 e: maybe the name is too ordinary, which arouses suspicion. If he gave his name as Imnots Uspicious THEN you could be assured he was on the level Yinlock fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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In japanese his name is just Eggs Benedict so it's even more obvious
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It’s a meta joke based on him having the same name as the popular British actor Eggert Benedict, who of course played a modern day Sholmes in the popular BBC drama Herlock
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gently caress why didn't they actually have him give Benedict Cumberbatch as his name and have everyone else go "well that's obviously a fake name" that would have been goddamn magical. Now I'm annoyed that the localizers didn't do this.
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Finally finished GAA1 over the weekend and got partway through 2. I can't stop listening to the soundtrack, it's soooo good! Definitely my favorite in the AA series Speaking of the soundtrack 2-1 When Kazuma Asogi - Nocturne theme started playing was probably the hardest I laughed so far in this game
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I swear to god I have to put the Switch down for a minute every time important proceedings are happening and Sholmes has materialized in the background to do something completely asinine 
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I started replaying the first Phoenix Wright game since I haven't played it since back when it came out and remember almost nothing about the cases. It's interesting seeing the ways Phoenix is different from the other protagonists, like the GAA guy or Apollo. Phoenix is extremely aggressive all the time and just constantly makes wild conjectures against the witnesses in an effort to get them to slip up. I also forgot that Edgeworth is an extremely bad person (before the events of the end of the game which I remember the general gist of; this isn't really a problem since it's part of the story, but it stands out in comparison with some of the other prosecutors, most of whom are generally acting with good intentions). The first game has the best "tense cross examination" music by far.
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Ytlaya posted:I started replaying the first Phoenix Wright game since I haven't played it since back when it came out and remember almost nothing about the cases. Phoenix more than anyone else is kinda thrown to the wolves and has to resort to wild poo poo to make headway. GAA 2-2: "Alright so since there's no poison in the tea that pretty much proves my client had nothing to do with it" "no" "The prosecution makes a compelling argument, call up the witness"
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g1-5 OH MY GOD JUROR 6
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I always chalked up Phoenix’s technique in part to being a former art student (he was studying two years in the same classes as Larry until he switched over to law).
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That does scan. Ryunosuke was an English major and his rhetoric is particularly solid, while Athena was a law major but raised by an engineer/psychologist. Apollo is the most methodical of the bunch and he’s also the one who’s always studied law and had it as his family's trade.
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Finished 2-3 and while I really, really hope the whole amnesia thing is a fake-out since it's dumb, Kazuma working for prosecutor is something I thought would happen since in 1-1 (or 1-2) Kazuma commented that if Ryunosuke will become a defence lawyer, they will... with the line ending there. I figured it alluded to them meeting in court in opposite sides so that was nice when it actually happened.
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Snooze Cruise posted:g1-5 1-5 he is just normal tourist wanting to see sights of great country. please give him directions to crystal tower Yinlock fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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[1-5, possibly a bit later in the trial] What I particularly appreciate about Juror number six is that he is probably the most helpful and unbiased jury member you meet.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:[1-5, possibly a bit later in the trial] What I particularly appreciate about Juror number six is that he is probably the most helpful and unbiased jury member you meet. [same] Yeah he's like the nicest dude in the entire courtroom. Also his anecdotes are insanely Russian.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:[1-5, possibly a bit later in the trial] What I particularly appreciate about Juror number six is that he is probably the most helpful and unbiased jury member you meet. 
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Yinlock posted:[same] Yeah he's like the nicest dude in the entire courtroom. Also his anecdotes are insanely Russian. I like how he denies his identity and then immediately refers to himself by name in an anecdote 
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Well now that I'm playing them back to back, it's incredibly apparent how much more work went into the dances of deduction in gaa 2 compared to 1. The presentation is even more elaborate, the animations are all around more... animated, and the unique failure dialogue for every wrong option had been expanded to also include a unique quip from sholmes instead of his generic "you did it wrong" lines from 1. Which rules, but also makes it really sad how you can't actually see all of the dialogue (it's all funny) without savescumming for more credibility points.
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"I think that deduction was a little... wanting." "Yes, I was wanting you to hear it! I'm quite proud of it!  "
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I had to turn on Story Mode for the investigation in 2-2 because some of the prompts were just tiny and I couldn't find them by myself (particularly during the skin prints section), and now I don't have the trophy for that case and it's gonna bother me forever 
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GAA2 in general feels like it's doing a lot more interesting things with the models and animations as they get used to having the characters existing in a 3D space. It's easy to forget that these games were separated by two years.
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Also I know it's appropriate for the time and setting, but it's SO WEIRD for an Ace Attorney game to be explicitly referencing God.
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Ah bit of an annoying bit in 1-5 With the Shulk brothers, one of those times you know exactly what is wrong but multiple pieces of evidence can show this and can be applied to different statements and you don't know which one of the game wants you to pick arghh story mode comes in handy...
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I think in some cases the game actually permits multiple pieces of evidence to be chosen, but I am not certain --- at very least I've had cases where I picked one piece and the game showed the picture of another piece. Anyway, speculation much later, after trial day 1 of 2-5: So, neither Mikotoba (so no doubly worst dad of century award!) nor Wilson are supposedly Iris's dad, so going by anime rule of hair color... Oh boy, that would be... Klint van Zieks? I hope I am misremembering his portrait since I was hoping for someone alive. Also, Kazuma is such a demagogue.
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OddObserver posted:I think in some cases the game actually permits multiple pieces of evidence to be chosen, but I am not certain --- at very least I've had cases where I picked one piece and the game showed the picture of another piece. This has always been an occasional thing in the series.
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2-3 Trial partway through: Apparently I came to court on Opposite Day. The prosecution is making wild-rear end assertions that I can easily disprove with basic logic, the jurors are on my side, and the witnesses are fairly cooperative if only my client wasn't a turd Yinlock fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Near the end of 1-5 AHHHHHH!!!!!! The cat door maker! I was going insane this entire trial wondering how the gently caress that peephole appeared. of course!!
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R-Kelly trial is making this games juries feel outright grounded.https://www.insider.com/r-kelly-trial-lawyers-want-charges-dropped-jury-selection-begins-2021-8 posted:Potential jurors were then brought one at a time into a separate room, where Donnelly quizzed them about their ability to be fair in the case. She also asked each about their hobbies and their jobs: One mechanical engineering student hoped to use his degree to develop rollercoasters, while an aspiring fashion illustrator answered only "YouTube" when asked about his hobbies. https://www.insider.com/r-kelly-trial-lawyers-want-charges-dropped-jury-selection-begins-2021-8
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OK first game done, it was good. A nice story about two men finding love in one another after losing their exes to criminal affairs The very start of 2-1: oh gently caress this animated opening e: i say what i did at the top of this post and then the start of 2-1 happens Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Susato gay
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2-2 Trial I'm beginning to think the British jury system might be broken. At least van Zieks was honest about the jury selection process this time.
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Amppelix posted:Susato gay  art 2-1 is finished, i was losing my mind the entire time ladies disguising in historical drag is something i always love when it pops up in stories (shout out to another mystery VN, Lady in Mystery), and was not something i was expecting going into these two games so it was such a delight Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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