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Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
Most of those votes were tied, or within a 1-2 vote margin for most of the voting. And if it wasn't for the switch at the last second, the frequency of elections vote would have been a tie.

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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Thank Lasya that we chose a civilized mode of counting like first past the post rather than some barbarism from Yoropa like the Condorcet style.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I lit woke up in the morning and did a last second count lol

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."



These are both very good, I will put them in the OP.

Expect the next 1775 vote post shortly

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
VOTE 1775

Tolun Fuyuan, Sikyong, head of the Tibetan Republic, hobbles along the streets of Lhasa, alone and unrecognized in the middle of the crowd, his scowling face closing off the rest of the city.



A few places around Lhasa itself had seemed much improved since the foundation of the Republic. A few more shops opened, a few more buildings raised.


The Republic had a formal code of laws. Not quite the same as Gyalyum the Benevolent outlawing the punishment of death by gouging, but still something.

The beggars were still bothering people, but not as often. Even with these changes, the Sikyong's mind leaps from one anxiety to the other - worrying about if the Anatolians were deciding to carve off more of the republic, if the nobles would raise another army to overthrow the republic, if some Purgyal or false Purgyal had decided that they would gather another army and build their own palace again.




Was it all for this? Was all the hope of revolution all just for this-- not a violent collapse, but a slow inevitable decay-- of more revolts, more petty tyrants and local monarchs creeping around the edges, the slow grind of poverty from the nomads and isolated farmers still working as they had. Was it all for this -- was it all for this – and so many other revolutionaries dead or gone.



The dream of heaven on earth seemed so real when he broke through the doors of the palace those nineteen years ago, as if he could hear that dream breathing. Now, and he hated this intensely about himself, he found himself envying the head of the Anatolian Republic. He envied Tefere Assefa Abateid for he sail across the ocean and rampage across the continent and conquer whatever he wanted, shape all history like perhaps a few others had. But that envy was for himself to know; Tolun made sure to loudly denounce the Anatolians’ infamy and betrayal of all moral bounds, to safeguard his own position. There were many who joined him.

Was the Republic still secure? Was it ever? Would it vanish like the gana-sanghas that he had once read of? Would this experiment fail too? He was due to step out of office after the next election, and he feared the threat of another dictator in all but name.



Frankly, the only story of a republic that gave him hope was the Muisca -- prosperous and peaceful for centuries. Else Tibet becomes a bloody altar of sacrifices forever more.

By heaven, he wanted someone to tell him what to do. The elections were, in fact, a consolation - a sign of some direction in what the people wanted. But still he felt uneasy over what would be next.

Vote I – Party Affiliation

Vote for one of the following parties:

A) The Lasya Party


B) The Red Mountain Party


C) True Followers of Lasya


D) Mandate of Heavenly Victory and Conquest

[Insert image of a gold hand crushing a mountain here]
E) The Golden Grasp


F) National Alliance of May 1756


Did the monarchs ever feel like this? With all their stories of divine right, probably not. Maybe one or two in all the centuries of thieves and murderers before him. Did Gyalyum the Benevolent or Pakmodru Tse, those distant founders of the empire, who brought an end to the Era of Fragmentation, ever feel this. The dynastic histories never say. Did Lasya the Holy -- No. Enough thinking like that.

We're all alone now.

Tolun Fuyuan, then, is a fake, he's always been a fake, an impostor pretending to be--

No, shut up, damnit. Enough loving self-pity. Better find something to do. He walks ahead, hoping he will not encounter some petitioner or whatever else. He sees a side road and shuffles in, as if he lived there and knew the streets intimately. He's north of the main part of town, and he can spot the Zhaji Lhamo Temple, in a neighborhood with many Han Chinese. Little shops and stalls cluster in the streets leading up to it, and one stands out for its shabbiness; a fortune-teller's stall, decorated with large Han characters.

Sure. Why not. Lhasa is full of fake monks and swindlers ready to beguile the naive and overcharge pilgrims, but he had a better feeling about this one. At least he could burn a few minutes and get his mind off of it. Tolun was a gambler by habit; fortune-telling was not too far removed from it.

Tolun regards the ancient fortune-teller. His face is skeletal; the flowers near his stall stink of death. In a better world he would not have to do this, but he still courteously asks for payment in advance; likely for his family, to leave something behind for them. To leave something behind.

The old fortuneteller tries his best to be warm and personable, keeping a rapid monologue going to keep Tolun’s interest. “Looking at the face? Hand readings? Escape from the mysterious gates? Looking over the heavenly stems and branches of his birth - just the Yijing? Well all right, then. Let's break the yarrow stalks and see where they fall. Let me tally the lines here...”

"Jing - the well", says the fortune-teller. He then sorts through his meagre possessions for an ancient book of commentaries - not just the original text - and recites them out loud. The text is so obscure that Tolun can barely understand it, and he simply lets the man read. "Though the capitals of old were destroyed, the well remains, as the necessities of life are still retained."

Tolun bolts to attention at the mention of 'capital'.

'For any merely superficial ordering of life that leaves its deepest needs unsatisfied is as ineffectual as if no attempt at order had ever been made." He skips a few lines, by the look of it. "Carelessness—by which the jug is broken—is also disastrous. If for instance the military defense of a state is carried to such excess that it provokes wars by which the power of the state is annihilated, this is a breaking of the jug.'

“He doesn't know I'm the Sikyong, does he?”, Tolun thinks. Well, whatever. They go to the next reading. More stalks broken, more broken and solid lines tallied.

"Jian - limping, or obstruction.... advantages in heading to the southwest, not the northeast."

A delicate pause. Tolun leans so far forward he stretches his neck like a crane. His mind races ahead with thoughts -- he cannot help it -- but at the same time he still retains some of what he is told.

"When the time of obstructions arrives, it might seem that the simplest thing for him to do would be to turn his back upon the world and take refuge in the beyond. But this road is barred to him. He must not seek his own salvation and abandon the world to its adversity. Duty calls him back once more into the turmoil of life. Precisely because of his experience and inner freedom, he is able to create something both great and complete that brings good fortune. And it is favorable to see the man in alliance with whom one can achieve the work of rescue."

Tolun thanks the old man and heads back into the street; south and west, vaguely in the direction of the Potala palace, now the seat of so many government offices.




Southwest. That was it. The old empire. It could be done. Campaigns to destroy the empire and bring forth so many new republics.

Just this once he could go to the Tshogdu and feel good about what he's proposing.



It would not be easy; there were many powerful electors and many states that had grown reliant on each other. It would not be easy… but it could be done. It could be…

Tibet would go south once again.

Vote II – The Sacred Tibetan Empire
Where and how should the Tibetan Republic launch military campaigns to attack the Sacred Tibetan Empire?
A) Leave it all alone. We will have to recover.
B) Go after only Punjab and recover what we've already lost.
C) Go after any targets of opportunity.
D) Attack the entire empire, not all at once but wherever we can, with the eventual aim to dismantle it.

The vote will conclude on Monday, August 9, at 9 PM EST.

Kangxi fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Aug 8, 2021

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




B The Red Mountain Party
D Dismantle it!

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


D
Spurned from the east we must return south

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010


1. A: The Lasya Party In this hour of darkness we must keep our swords sharp and aim true! Lasya is strenght in need, resistance through frugality!
2. D: The Mandate of Heaven is shattered, we must crush the Beast that it's the Sacred Tibetan Empire, which is neither Sacred, nor Tibetan nor, well, yes, technically it is an Empire, but not for long

Rubix Squid
Apr 17, 2014
1. A
2. D

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I should probably at least try and make an icon huh


1. E: Golden Grasp of course. As the primary military party we are the obvious choice for such an ambitious military project!
2. D

To clarify, the distinction with C and D is meant to be just picking off India as the moment benefits vs this being our dedicated project for the foreseeable future, correct?

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

Rody One Half posted:

To clarify, the distinction with C and D is meant to be just picking off India as the moment benefits vs this being our dedicated project for the foreseeable future, correct?

Yes, that is exactly right

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

F. The National Alliance of May 1756
A. Leave it Alone

Anything else is lunacy. We need time to recover and repair, to restore our strength. The best revenge will not be achieved by rushing to war but by biding our time and ensuring we have the resources needed to deal with the so-called empire.

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 8, 2021

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
E. Golden Grasp
D. Let's gently caress it up!

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

C
B

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

C
D


There shall be woe in all realms that fail to bend their knees to Lasyan Tibet.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
D
D

Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

A
D

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

C
D

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

F
D

Smash the world's roof! For the revolution of the world!

zealouscub
Feb 18, 2020
A
D

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

D
Spurned from the east we must return south

Is this a party or a war vote? Just making sure

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

A
D

megane
Jun 20, 2008



B. Red Mountain Party
B. Punjab only

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

D, C

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Kangxi posted:

Is this a party or a war vote? Just making sure

war

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

C
D - These lands and the people are Tibetan by right, they must be freed from the shackles that they have been placed by the nobility calling themselves the descendants of Lasya. We must remind them of the glory of their past. Preferably by building a big fuckoff pyramid.

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?
F.
A., with B as a second choice.

This may be our course of action, but it CANNOT be our course right now. We stagger from fight to fight as though blood-drunk, and all it has gained us is loss. No man or woman can fight forever.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
E
C

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

B
B - Going all in on fighting/expansion with every vote is how we end up with "Oops! All Authoritarian!" in so many of these Megacampaigns. (though I suspect it's going to win due to split votes)

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
:siren: The vote is closed. :siren:

PARTY AFFILIATION:
A) The Lasya Party: 4 (Pacho, Polgas, zealouscub, Videowitch)
B) Red Mountain Party: 3 (Technowolf, megane, SirPhoebos)
C) True Followers of Lasya: 4 (Soup du Jour, McGavin, idhrendur, habeusdorkus)
D) Mandate of Heavenly Victory: 2 (AJ_Impy, Lord Cyrahzax)
E) Golden Grasp: 3 (Rody One Half, NewMars, Xelkelvos)
F) National Alliance of May 1756: 3 (QuoProQuid, Freudian, Redeye Flight)


This image was generated using a Parliament Diagram tool, with ten seats assigned for one thread vote.

Even the two largest parties together would not hold a majority; a multiparty coalition and delicate balance of power will reign.

THE SACRED TIBETAN EMPIRE:
A) No war at all: 2 (QuoProQuid, Redeye Flight)
B) Punjab only: 3 (Soup du Jour, megane, SirPhoebos)
C) Targets of opportunity: 2 (Lord Cyrahzax, Xelkelvos)
D) Dismantle the Empire: 13 (Technowolf, Pacho, Rody One Half, NewMars, Soup du Jour, AJ_Impy, Polgas. Idhrendur, Freudian, zealouscub, Videowitch, ThatBasqueGuy, habeusdorkus)


Come, let us march against the powers of heaven,
And set black streamers in the firmament,
To signify the slaughter of the gods.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
:neckbeard: a hell coalition government leading a large scale military invasion

LJN92
Mar 5, 2014

So who's in the coalition? All of them?

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Kangxi posted:

THE SACRED TIBETAN EMPIRE:
D) Dismantle the Empire: 13 (Technowolf, Pacho, Rody One Half, NewMars, Soup du Jour, AJ_Impy, Polgas. Idhrendur, Freudian, zealouscub, Videowitch, ThatBasqueGuy, habeusdorkus)


Come, let us march against the powers of heaven,
And set black streamers in the firmament,
To signify the slaughter of the gods.



god, this is a tremendously bad idea.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

karmicknight posted:

:neckbeard: a hell coalition government leading a large scale military invasion

We will walk into hell with our heads held high and let only Yama judge us for our glories and our sins

Edit: for a more complete breakdown, Everyone in the Lasaya Party (A) voted for Dismantling. They're definitely leading whatever coalition has emerged in this new Parliament. Most of True Followers and Golden Grasp (C and D) also voted for Dismantling with one of each voting for something else. Mandate of Heaven (D) was split over Opportunity and Dismantlement. One Red Mountain (B) member voted for Dismantling while the rest sought only Punjab. The only party that had any members vote for No War was the National Alliance and even they had one breakaway for Dismantlement.

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 10, 2021

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

this is good, only good things can come from this

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Time to shatter the bonds between the people and their lords across eurasia in the span of half a century, with absolutely no reprocussions

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

SirPhoebos posted:

B
B - Going all in on fighting/expansion with every vote is how we end up with "Oops! All Authoritarian!" in so many of these Megacampaigns. (though I suspect it's going to win due to split votes lol at me being so optimistic)


Kangxi posted:

Come, let us march against the powers of heaven,
And set black streamers in the firmament,
To signify the slaughter of the gods.

So...how many Pyramids should we include on the HoI4 flag?

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




SirPhoebos posted:

So...how many Pyramids should we include on the HoI4 flag?

An infinitely repeating fractal of pyramids

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karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

Time to shatter the bonds between the people and their lords across eurasia in the span of half a century, with absolutely no reprocussions

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