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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Abbott's spokesman said the call doesn't preclude virtual learning appropriations.

Also SCoTx says, "checks and balances? What's that"
https://twitter.com/cassi_pollock/status/1424839682379194372

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Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
Even if it does, it's too late for schools starting to open in the next two weeks.

To those unfamiliar: Our Supreme Court is elected and party-affiliated, all of its current members are Republican.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/GinaForAustin/status/1424846181671346188

That's kind of weird, I guess there's some division in the caucus? Not sure how healthy it is for caucus unity going forward to narc out your fellow members

https://twitter.com/Ramos4Texas/status/1424846977536233472

Yikes

zoux fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Aug 9, 2021

Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
A lot of Rs returned since Saturday too, Rs that might have COVID?

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel
Talarico no, it's ok, go home.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1424849662603927553

Yeah this is why you don't hoist the trophy when the game ain't over.

Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
Again, I am asking...do we have legislators with active COVID-19 cases on the House floor unmasked right now, or was Ramos speculating? Because I could see Delta taking out this session, unless they just decide actively giving each other COVID-19 is NBD.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I don't think she knows what she's talking about.

https://twitter.com/James_E_White/status/1424850702812262401

Here's the current roll call, we can count together (Clardy is the only one we know for sure has it)

Eddie 3 said over the weekend he expects there to be a quorum, they only had 26 members commit to staying in DC, it looks to me like a quorum is inevitable, especially the closer they get to 100.

I mean, it looks like open civil war in the caucus right now


Also that TRO suit is what Miss T and Collier and the other D's asked to be removed from


Er...hmm

https://twitter.com/bradj_tx/status/1424855497656737804?s=21


https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1424855665609162758?s=21

If that was in the rules, Ramos definitely didn’t know what she was talking about

zoux fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Aug 9, 2021

Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
It's probably more optimism that people who are ill with and knowingly have a contagious disease would show up for quorum. But at this point, I just assume R legislators with COVID are gonna show up maskless anyway.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ramos should probably just log off...you don’t have this fight in public


https://twitter.com/ramos4texas/status/1424855093124362259?s=21

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

zoux posted:

Ramos should probably just log off...you don’t have this fight in public


https://twitter.com/ramos4texas/status/1424855093124362259?s=21

how else is she gonna get donations from out of state people

Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
That's too strategic, Badger. Ramos is just gonna Ramos, that's who she is.

TropicalCoke
Feb 14, 2012
if moody and gonzales are there its over

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

"Hospitals, this one is on you, not me. Please act accordingly."

https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/O-HospitalCapacityLetter202108094432.pdf

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TropicalCoke posted:

if moody and gonzales are there its over

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1424927009369731085

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/09/texas-dems-gop-voting-bill-502906

"Texas Dems' strategy unclear" is leading politico lol

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
an evergreen headline if there ever was one

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
These are the people who are going to turn Texas blue any day now

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

They were declaring victory and saying that their exodus to Washington was a huge success, so the smart thing to do would've been to come back as a unified group, do a big homecoming rally, pledge to fight on the floor or whatever, instead we're getting twitter flame wars within the caucus and no path forward. Do some of them really think that they can maintain a quorum break indefinitely? That TRO against the civil arrest of house members isn't going to last the week.

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1425095847272976389

They got high on their own supply after they actually won for once and instead of taking that victory and passing a gutted version of the regular session bill, they did this.

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Aug 10, 2021

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Ugh I wish they would be serious and just vote for the Republican agenda already, it's like grow up guys, the people put you there to be a rubberstamp for Abbott and Patrick

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

VitalSigns posted:

Ugh I wish they would be serious and just vote for the Republican agenda already, it's like grow up guys, the people put you there to be a rubberstamp for Abbott and Patrick

If they are Dems in Texas, you know that's not true. That's what the Texas GOP feels they are there for.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Yeah, the actual purpose if dems in Texas is to make a bunch of ineffectual noise and then jump ship to somewhere they stand a chance of winning/advancement.

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.
It seems like they did what they could in the first session, now that they're in the second phase - they should send a small group to negotiate the bill (I figured this is what Moody was doing) and have the rest return to their districts and ensure that when the troopers come and they're dragged out in cuffs and taken to Austin that it is caught on camera.

Creating the optics of State troopers arresting State Reps at church and taking them to Austin to force a quorum to restrict voting rights seems like the best victory Dems can really hope for. All of the Harris County stuff that was good (drive through voting, 24 hour voting etc.) are all gone.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/brianlopeztx/status/1425100723973406734

You take out covid, that puts bed capacity at 73%, is that normal? Seems high to me.

Sab0921 posted:

It seems like they did what they could in the first session, now that they're in the second phase - they should send a small group to negotiate the bill (I figured this is what Moody was doing) and have the rest return to their districts and ensure that when the troopers come and they're dragged out in cuffs and taken to Austin that it is caught on camera.

Creating the optics of State troopers arresting State Reps at church and taking them to Austin to force a quorum to restrict voting rights seems like the best victory Dems can really hope for. All of the Harris County stuff that was good (drive through voting, 24 hour voting etc.) are all gone.

Well that would take a unified caucus, because once they have 100, the GOP would be perfectly happy to let the remaining 50 Democrats sit in their districts and do nothing.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

I thought the problem was nurses, not beds.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh it's everything. I'm not even really talking about covid, if someone asked me "what do you think the total hospital capacity is on any given day (outside the pandemic)" I'd've guessed less than half.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

zoux posted:

They were declaring victory and saying that their exodus to Washington was a huge success, so the smart thing to do would've been to come back as a unified group, do a big homecoming rally, pledge to fight on the floor or whatever, instead we're getting twitter flame wars within the caucus and no path forward. Do some of them really think that they can maintain a quorum break indefinitely? That TRO against the civil arrest of house members isn't going to last the week.

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1425095847272976389

They got high on their own supply after they actually won for once and instead of taking that victory and passing a gutted version of the regular session bill, they did this.

Dems should do literally everything they can to stop Republicans from enacting their agenda every time Republicans try. Drag it out and make it as painful as possible for every bill. Republicans have abandoned decorum and good faith governance over a generation ago so gently caress them and never do anything to help them pass legislation.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/KSATSarahSpivey/status/1425101095685197831





:frogc00l:

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/brianlopeztx/status/1425100723973406734

You take out covid, that puts bed capacity at 73%, is that normal? Seems high to me.


Unused capacity is inefficient and expensive, so they've been eliminated. There are other factors as well, but the US had more hospital beds in 1975 than it did in 2019. Best healthcare system in the world!

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Rural hospitals have basically been annihilated the past 20 years so welp

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1425121632486629379

I thought she was determined to stay in Washington DC and continue the great progress the house Dems have made on a congressional voting rights package? I guess it's hard to raise money for your mayoral campaign from 2000 miles away.

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1425127203252154379

Whoops!

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 10, 2021

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1425180964100222984

Everyone is acting like this is beyond the pale but nearly every parliamentary body in the world is empowered to compel the attendance of membership to establish a quorum. The original purpose of the US Senate Sergeant of Arms was to chase down absent members. It's in every edition of Roberts' Rules of Order. Also, all the members know this -it's in both the state constitution and the House rules which they all approved - but are pretending they don't in order to gin up outrage (or in this case, raise campaign funds)

zoux fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 10, 2021

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


San Antonio has joined the mask mandate rebellion:
https://twitter.com/Joeycules/status/1425190082395389956

So is there any chance that Abbott sees that the tide is turning and does a new executive order allowing school mask mandates in order to save face/take credit, or should we brace for him to go full DeSantis and fight tooth and nail so that he can be seen standing up to those oppressive liberal cities?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


He's absolutely going to fight it because backing down give his primary opponents a chance to attack him from the right.

It doesn't even matter if parents approve of the mask mandate, Abbot only gives a poo poo about the Republican Primary voter those folks are intensely anti-mask-mandate.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Blotto_Otter posted:

San Antonio has joined the mask mandate rebellion:
https://twitter.com/Joeycules/status/1425190082395389956

So is there any chance that Abbott sees that the tide is turning and does a new executive order allowing school mask mandates in order to save face/take credit, or should we brace for him to go full DeSantis and fight tooth and nail so that he can be seen standing up to those oppressive liberal cities?

Going DeSantis requires Abbott to take a stand and that isn't his style. He's the more, do nothing at all and then claim credit.

He won't even need to issue a new executive order. Last time he did nothing, then when counties figured out how to loop hole his EO he basically tried to take credit for them cracking the code because cases were spiraling and something had to happen but he wasn't about to be the first mover.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Dameius posted:

Going DeSantis requires Abbott to take a stand and that isn't his style.

Heh

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/brianlopeztx/status/1425162936084017161

Plus this statement (which was before the Bexar Co. ruling) doesn't seem like he's going to go hard charging after this, I guess he's waiting on his cues from Ingraham and Hannity

https://twitter.com/James_Barragan/status/1425202576111423491

Eva "distant third" Guzman

zoux fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 10, 2021

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1425182379585548294

https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1425202622231977987


Oof drat, this is gonna cost seats

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Zoux I'm pretty sure you're wrong about this, I've been told repeatedly that TX is turning blue

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Kull the Conqueror posted:

an evergreen headline if there ever was one

I am responsive to my constituents, unlike some people

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