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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Heath posted:

The themesong of the show tells you not to worry about the science stuff because it's just a show and you should just relax

It really lampoons with the sci-fi pastiche more than glorifies it. More than anything it's a pop culture show from the 90s for people who grew up in the 70s-80s

Plus, the premise is largely that the various working class hosts have been conned/press-ganged/kidnapped/forced onto the satellite and kept there against their will by evil corporate shenanigans

MST3K does *SCIENCE!* optimi-snark in the same way that Futurama! and Venture Bros and UCB do it

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Ok Comboomer posted:

Plus, the premise is largely that the various working class hosts have been conned/press-ganged/kidnapped/forced onto the satellite and kept there against their will by evil corporate shenanigans

MST3K does *SCIENCE!* optimi-snark in the same way that Futurama! and Venture Bros and UCB do it

I think its just maybe an aesthetic that's of a certain time and place and one that maybe misses me by a couple of years. I found Futurama at its weakest when it indulged itself in the 50s sci-fi pastiche (the stuff that hit best for me tended to be gags that would work just as well on, say, The Simpsons), I can't place what UCB is, but Venture Bros is one of my favourite shows, but I'm not sure that draws *quite* from the same well, or at least it draws from several wells.

It's an aesthetic I associate with grainy, alien feeling Nickelodeon shows of the early-mid 90s and I think it presumes an North American experience of being a kid who had the experience of having all this 50s camp detitrus wash-up on the shores of their brain during their youth. And that's okay: just that cultural moment of plasma balls and frizzy haired scientists and This Island Earth cribbing clunky robots and public access TV hosts doesn't resonate with me as anything other than something I've experienced third-hand from the Gen X'rs who want to celebrate it.

EDIT: Fallout might be another example of where it's present, come to think of it. I don't think it's a bad aesthetic or anything, just one born of being a kid in the era where nuclear optimism and terror had curdled into a low background hum of dread and Sunday afternoon re-runs, and it doesn't hit the same if you're outside of the USA and born after the early-mid 80s, perhaps.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I can't recall being awash in media older than the 70's (Most things were newer than Star Wars), other than a few James Bond movies, as a teen in the 90's. MST3K was really my only exposure to anything in black and white.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!
I guess what I'm trying to articulate, just to explain why something didn't land for me culturally, not as a judgement of its value, is this kind of po-mo aesthetic (watch up until the studio is introduced to get a better idea):

https://youtu.be/tqdjpwBFW7Q

It seems to draw a lot on what would have been ephermal pop-culture for 50s USA kids, watched by 70s and 80s latch-key kids in syndication and on late night TV and then repackaged back by them as a winking post-modernism for 90s kids.

50s Britain was dour as poo poo (not that the 50s United States was great, but you did get more monster movies) and we never had the same culture of late night TV horror hosts and stuff, so as a kid in the 90s, this stuff just read as willfully wacky to me.

EDIT: Flicking through this, it was interesting to see a routine to a late period Devo tune. I really love early Devo in particular, but the late stuff, although still the 80s (it'd be a stretch to call Smooth Noodle Maps 90s, despite it coming out in 1990) seemed to have a lot of crossover with that "wacky factory/crazy scientist" aesthetic.

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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsG47Jbf6CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HurVjLqQIg8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSJipzAqQ1c

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
You want some 90s training videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HpCJov3Uj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbVDQKcxg00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=net7t1HjQxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjgHLFZMa0

This one in particular hits me as I worked in blockbuster in high school right at its peak in 2003-2004 (when they were finally leaning hard into DVD but still stocked a dozen VHS copies of each new release).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc_yHON1oiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7JiQaKJcSc

It's probably lost to time, but I'd love to find a copy of the CVS photolab videos that I had to watch around 2002. Again, right at its peak before digital would utterly annihilate film cameras; I have a lot of those where I was in somewhere right before it died to new technology.

Overall fairly lovely jobs, but pretty great for a teenager at the time. So many memories....

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Everyone please rise for the national anthem


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXeFPpPJeI

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
All the jobs I've had, I've never had a training video for the place I was working at. I've had training videos for specific skills like first aid, food handling and drink service.

Seeing those are really weird.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


McDonald's had some flash looking videos and animations to teach you things.

Speedway had a lengthy orientation video I had to sit through and nearly fell asleep during

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Target had a video about how you shouldn't join a union. Wasn't the 90s though.

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Target had a video about how you shouldn't join a union. Wasn't the 90s though.

Had to watch that at the Gap, too - they had a couple training videos that were custom made. Also not the 90s.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006



https://twitter.com/KaiserBeamz/status/1249028642212122627

i love all of this poo poo. inject it into my veins.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Hot drat the 90s were such a good time for aesthetics ranging from terrible to charmingly terrible.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
wanna squat in an abandoned neon brutalist shopping mall.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

The carving station guy shows up in this subway video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3-gwCQK6o&t=423s

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I can't imagine someone "never having been" to Subway before.

I absolutely can imagine someone "never ever" going to Subway again.

(True story, I ate at Subway 3 times a week for a month about a decade ago and will never eat there again. I didn't have a bad experience, it's just not good food, and it starts to add up somehow.)

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

I've never voluntarily been to subway, does that count?

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON

doctorfrog posted:

I can't imagine someone "never having been" to Subway before.

I absolutely can imagine someone "never ever" going to Subway again.

(True story, I ate at Subway 3 times a week for a month about a decade ago and will never eat there again. I didn't have a bad experience, it's just not good food, and it starts to add up somehow.)

My college had a Subway in every dorm, I ate it easily three times a week probably more. Now it's like, once a year and every time I wonder why I bothered.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I can't even remember the last time I had Subway. At the bare minimum it's been 5 years, but it could be closer to 13 years.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

There was a subway in the gas station next to my junior year apartment, and no other food nearby. I never cared for it beforehand but I ate a lot of it that year. Now the idea of eating it makes me nauseous.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!

Len posted:

McDonald's had some flash looking videos and animations to teach you things.

Like their cover of Beat It?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kuA2G2lX5Q

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
Mostly the internet was a mistake, but it's almost worth it to preserve these things for future generations.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Maybe Subway in Canada is better than the US, but subway here is pretty drat good. its pretty high on the fast food chart. Though that might be because of the cookies.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

BaronVonVaderham posted:

Mostly the internet was a mistake, but it's almost worth it to preserve these things for future generations.

I really love those channels that are nothing but videos of big blocks of commercials from when someone recorded The Wrath of Khan off of TV in July of 1992.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Hot drat the 90s were such a good time for aesthetics ranging from terrible to charmingly terrible.

cant wait for Frasurbane and Global Village Coffee House to come back

Pentaro
May 5, 2013


Global Village Coffehouse could also be called Putumayo World Music CD Cover.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




FFXIV Porn posted:



https://twitter.com/KaiserBeamz/status/1249028642212122627

i love all of this poo poo. inject it into my veins.

Give that rainforest chic.




FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
The weirdest thing to try and explain to teens is how places to go get coffee were either bakeries foremost, restaurants, or weirdo dark lands where open mic night ruled the day and beatniks would hang out and just read.

All this bright light and poo poo, people of all stripes enjoying fresh brews... madness!

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I was there in the 90s and I still have a hard time believing all these business got funding, floor space, etc.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

mind the walrus posted:

I was there in the 90s and I still have a hard time believing all these business got funding, floor space, etc.

It's quite simple, really, there was a lot of attention given to the rainforest (mostly due to being deforested) at the time, and it was easy to convince bankers that bringing the rainforest to people was going to be popular.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!

Iron Crowned posted:

I really love those channels that are nothing but videos of big blocks of commercials from when someone recorded The Wrath of Khan off of TV in July of 1992.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who watches those. It has me teetering on buying a K'Nex Big Ball Factory set on ebay (this video should start at the right timestamp for that commercial).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwWEQM-TnQ&t=223s

My rear end in a top hat father gave all of that poo poo away when I was at college. All the huge K'Nex and Lego sets, my NES and Genesis and all the games. poo poo's worth thousands now, and he just gave it away to clear some space without asking (he may have sold some at a yard sale but definitely not for anything remotely close to what it was worth).

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

BaronVonVaderham posted:

My rear end in a top hat father gave all of that poo poo away when I was at college. All the huge K'Nex and Lego sets, my NES and Genesis and all the games. poo poo's worth thousands now, and he just gave it away to clear some space without asking (he may have sold some at a yard sale but definitely not for anything remotely close to what it was worth).

They're things that are fun for an afternoon these days, now that I'm 40. I gave away all my Legos, NES, and Genesis and all the games when I left Kansas a decade ago because I couldn't fit them into my car.

The Legos went to a friend of a friend who took some of my furniture, they weren't very well off, and had a couple of kids with them, you should have seen the look on those kids' faces when I offered them a 60 gallon tub of legos.

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!

Iron Crowned posted:

They're things that are fun for an afternoon these days, now that I'm 40. I gave away all my Legos, NES, and Genesis and all the games when I left Kansas a decade ago because I couldn't fit them into my car.

The Legos went to a friend of a friend who took some of my furniture, they weren't very well off, and had a couple of kids with them, you should have seen the look on those kids' faces when I offered them a 60 gallon tub of legos.

Yeah I have a raspberry pi that emulates everything ever made from the Atari 2600 through the N64, but it'd be nice to have for nostalgia or to at least sell and get what they're worth to spend on other stuff.

It's more the principle of the thing, I was absolutely furious when I went home one xmas break thinking I'd grab a console to take back with me only to be told he cleared everything out the moment I walked out the door freshman year. At least ask so I could have said, "Unless it's going to one of my little cousins or something let me tell you what price tag you should put on those things and then send me the proceeds since they're mine."

Thankfully the Pokemon cards were safely at my mom's house and she just kept my stuff safe in the attic all these years.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Iron Crowned posted:

It's quite simple, really, there was a lot of attention given to the rainforest (mostly due to being deforested) at the time, and it was easy to convince bankers that bringing the rainforest to people was going to be popular.
Like my brain knows this but it's like Elaine with the New Yorker cartoon where she finally forces him to admit "I think it's a cute kitty."

There's so much effort invested into appearing serious and professional and together than even when you know it's all a front, actually confronting evidence of the hollow nothing underpinning everything we do makes you feel like Lovecraft every time he saw an Italian.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

mactheknife posted:

Had to watch that at the Gap, too - they had a couple training videos that were custom made. Also not the 90s.

I had to watch (probably) the same video when I worked for Old Navy. I retained exactly none of the information and regularly joked about forming a union there.


Also, what was it with the 90s and neon signs? Like, we think of neon colors as being 80s, but I definitely think of neon signs as a 90s thing. Did they just like, perfect the tech then?

FilthyImp posted:

The weirdest thing to try and explain to teens is how places to go get coffee were either bakeries foremost, restaurants, or weirdo dark lands where open mic night ruled the day and beatniks would hang out and just read.

All this bright light and poo poo, people of all stripes enjoying fresh brews... madness!

The greatest crime Starbucks ever perpetrated was robbing Boston of the Coffee Connection.

The stupidest thing they ever did was then have their CEO go on our local NPR affiliate and basically tell us to "Get the gently caress over it, brats".

Fun fact: buying the Coffee Connection is why they now have the Frappaccino.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Neito posted:

I had to watch (probably) the same video when I worked for Old Navy. I retained exactly none of the information and regularly joked about forming a union there.


Also, what was it with the 90s and neon signs? Like, we think of neon colors as being 80s, but I definitely think of neon signs as a 90s thing. Did they just like, perfect the tech then?

The greatest crime Starbucks ever perpetrated was robbing Boston of the Coffee Connection.

The stupidest thing they ever did was then have their CEO go on our local NPR affiliate and basically tell us to "Get the gently caress over it, brats".

Fun fact: buying the Coffee Connection is why they now have the Frappaccino.

as long as eastern Mass still has Honeydew everything is fine

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Ok Comboomer posted:

as long as eastern Mass still has Honeydew everything is fine

There's two within DoorDash distance from me, so the universe is still fine.

Sekhmnet
Jan 22, 2019


When I worked at burger king for a week in the late 90s the training video I had to watch was mostly anti-union propaganda. East Lansing burger king right next to the MSU campus, they went through so much product that keeping the melted and then congealed fat from the legs of the flame broiler was an uphill battle that seemed to be mostly combated by 'just get the most recent layers off, those inner layers are VINTAGE grease'. After a week on the job they sent me to the St. Johns location like 20-30 minutes away because a bunch of their staff walked off and I was immediately treated like an outsider/corporate narc and I just left.

BooDooBoo
Jul 14, 2005

That makes no sense to me at all.


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Neito posted:


Also, what was it with the 90s and neon signs? Like, we think of neon colors as being 80s, but I definitely think of neon signs as a 90s thing. Did they just like, perfect the tech then?


They were cheaper and more accessible in the 90's.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Neito posted:

Also, what was it with the 90s and neon signs? Like, we think of neon colors as being 80s, but I definitely think of neon signs as a 90s thing. Did they just like, perfect the tech then?

Neon's actually hay-day was the 50's and what you're thinking of was more of the aftermath of the revival in the 80's.

I'm guessing the revival was more because they figured out how to make more colors by using gasses other than neon.

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