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Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
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I saw that co-op was coming this summer, and it got me thinking - are there any good co-op custom maps, preferably oriented towards 2-3 players? My wife and I play this together pretty often and it would be cool to have something to do other than comp stomps.

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Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

OhFunny posted:

They revealed the last two today and they’re the Holy Roman Empire and the Rus.

Oh, neat.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I think every civ should have a unique castle design anyway. It's 2021, that would take up what, 10s of megabytes

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Voyager I posted:

I saw that co-op was coming this summer, and it got me thinking - are there any good co-op custom maps, preferably oriented towards 2-3 players? My wife and I play this together pretty often and it would be cool to have something to do other than comp stomps.

Good news: You can test some of the co-op missions right now.

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/aoe2de-pupcoop/#msdynttrid=_-yz3nJEIeFtyRVzdibHTpm69UcPx2zJglmOU8HD8IM

I also would like some recommendations on co-op scenarios by the way.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Milo and POTUS posted:

I think every civ should have a unique castle design anyway. It's 2021, that would take up what, 10s of megabytes

No no, it's 2021, they all need exquisitely animated 4K collapse animations.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
New Event all

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Age of Empires 4 beta begins later this week

AoE4's closed beta starts in two days.


Sign ups end at 7:59pm EST today.
https://www.ageofempires.com/insiders

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Anybody been playing the new AO3:DE DLC? The livestock trading mechanic for the new factions seems pretty powerful.

Karanas
Jul 17, 2011

Euuuuuuuugh
How about the game itself? I was interested but it was apparently pretty broken at release.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
The game still crashes once every 10 skirmish matches or so but is otherwise fine. Sweden and Incas started out OP but have been toned down in balance patches and now Ethiopia and Hausa are the new OP monsters. Not really a big deal if you just want to play campaigns and solo skirmishes though.

e. There's a relatively small but committed MP scene

NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Aug 10, 2021

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Massive aoe2 update but no challenges, am I seeing that right?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


HOLY gently caress the Bohemians. :getin:

Faster gunpowder unit tech + super cannons UU = tons of fun

Just a matter of time until they nerf it, of course

Milo and POTUS posted:

Massive aoe2 update but no challenges, am I seeing that right?

Try restarting if you haven't, there's an event underway

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

No no, it's 2021, they all need exquisitely animated 4K collapse animations.

Everything does seem to be inflating in size. I get 'Yay, we have space now!' but...I swaer it leads to bloated games and installs.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
And apparently one of the Poles' unique units is... Hussars getting 5 more HP, 2 more damage, a point of armor, and a more expensive upgrade cost. Like, they get this instead of the regular Hussar upgrade.

O.o

Harveygod
Jan 4, 2014

YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW
Do you still get the expansion if you preorder AoE4?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


The other Polish UU is kind of a wet fart as well. I think the Polish civ is more suited for someone who likes to focus in the economy because of its fancy mill I guess? I wasn't impressed at all.

Still gotta try the campaigns (yes I'm a sick gently caress I do like playing those).

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Negostrike posted:

The other Polish UU is kind of a wet fart as well. I think the Polish civ is more suited for someone who likes to focus in the economy because of its fancy mill I guess? I wasn't impressed at all.

Still gotta try the campaigns (yes I'm a sick gently caress I do like playing those).

I just finally got around to beating the Sicilian campaign yesterday. I'm really bad at the game though, so I only go in on normal difficulty.

I am, in fact, someone who goes EXCLUSIVELY for the single-player, I don't go for regular games against bots, or multiplayer. I'm just not good enough at the game, or willing enough to put in the effort and focus to get good enough to compete. It's just not what I enjoy in the game.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


BlazetheInferno posted:

And apparently one of the Poles' unique units is... Hussars getting 5 more HP, 2 more damage, a point of armor, and a more expensive upgrade cost. Like, they get this instead of the regular Hussar upgrade.

O.o

And also a UT that gives it trample damage.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

BlazetheInferno posted:

I just finally got around to beating the Sicilian campaign yesterday. I'm really bad at the game though, so I only go in on normal difficulty.

I am, in fact, someone who goes EXCLUSIVELY for the single-player, I don't go for regular games against bots, or multiplayer. I'm just not good enough at the game, or willing enough to put in the effort and focus to get good enough to compete. It's just not what I enjoy in the game.

After watching T90's Low Elo Legends, I feel getting stuck in the lower brackets is more of a blessing than a curse.

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014



Without going into NDA breach territory. I will say AoE4 is the improvements to aoe2 I want without changing too much of the core rts gameplay. I think it will be well received addition, if it doesn't migrate the competitive scene over.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

I find it hard to get anxious about aoe4, given the excellent support 2 is getting. At worst i just play that instead y'know?

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
They absolutely botched the regional pricing for 4 in South American stores, here in Argentina it's ten times as expensive (3000 ARS) as the remasters for 2 or 3 (300 ARS). It made the "pre-order to get Dawn of the Dukes for free!" bit very funny because DotD is like 150 ARS. You're saving a whole 5% wow!

That said the mechanical changes feel very intriguing and I look forward to picking it up on sale later in its life cycle.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Oh my god. I just found my favorite thing about the Poles.

Their Folwark, that replaces the mill? It's 3x3. The perfect Farm Square is real at last.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

BlazetheInferno posted:

Oh my god. I just found my favorite thing about the Poles.

Their Folwark, that replaces the mill? It's 3x3. The perfect Farm Square is real at last.



What are the little tents?

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

GodFish posted:

What are the little tents?

Pavillions. Effectively small houses.

It's a campaign map, first level of the Jadwiga (Polish) campaign.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

GodFish posted:

What are the little tents?

Little bit of campaign color. Idk if they provide actual housing, but ^^^^ seems to indicate they do

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Milo and POTUS posted:

Little bit of campaign color. Idk if they provide actual housing, but ^^^^ seems to indicate they do

They absolutely do, which makes them worth protecting any time you have them - though sometimes they're super out-of-the-way and it's better to just let the enemy take 'em out and build more houses rather than spend effort to protect them.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

BlazetheInferno posted:

Oh my god. I just found my favorite thing about the Poles.

Their Folwark, that replaces the mill? It's 3x3. The perfect Farm Square is real at last.



Gross. Farm pinwheel 4 lyfe

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

I exclusively use fish traps

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Azran posted:

They absolutely botched the regional pricing for 4 in South American stores, here in Argentina it's ten times as expensive (3000 ARS) as the remasters for 2 or 3 (300 ARS). It made the "pre-order to get Dawn of the Dukes for free!" bit very funny because DotD is like 150 ARS. You're saving a whole 5% wow!

That said the mechanical changes feel very intriguing and I look forward to picking it up on sale later in its life cycle.

You mean AOE 4 is around 30 dollars there, compared to 60 USD in the US. Rejoice, hermanos!
Also it's approx. 37 USD here in Brazil (R$ 199,99). That's the regular price for a brand new AAA game. Usually it's even more expensive.
Keep in mind AOE 4 is a brand new game, not a remaster.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
So, uhh, I just want to mention, I've made a little discovery in the Jadwiga campaign.

One of the levels, you're not allowed to build Castles, and walls and towers have had their stone price jacked way up.

They uh

They forgot to do the same for Bombard towers.

Single Stone Wall Segment: 200 stone.
Watch Tower: 300 stone.
Bombard Tower: 125 stone.

Welp.

BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Aug 15, 2021

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

Negostrike posted:

You mean AOE 4 is around 30 dollars there, compared to 60 USD in the US. Rejoice, hermanos!
Also it's approx. 37 USD here in Brazil (R$ 199,99). That's the regular price for a brand new AAA game. Usually it's even more expensive.
Keep in mind AOE 4 is a brand new game, not a remaster.

Online purchases in Argentina get hit with a 65% tax on the final price, so that takes the price all the way to 59 USD ($5775 or so), which is like a 1/5th of minimum wage in a country where over 40% of people live under the poverty line and with an annual inflation rate of like 51% 🤷‍♀️ I'm not saying they should've priced it the same as the remasters but there's a huge gap between both price points.

Sorry to get all E/N but I still insist they hosed up with the pricing.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Azran posted:

Online purchases in Argentina get hit with a 65% tax on the final price, so that takes the price all the way to 59 USD ($5775 or so), which is like a 1/5th of minimum wage in a country where over 40% of people live under the poverty line and with an annual inflation rate of like 51% 🤷‍♀️ I'm not saying they should've priced it the same as the remasters but there's a huge gap between both price points.

Sorry to get all E/N but I still insist they hosed up with the pricing.

Oh, I had no idea about the tax. That really loving sucks.
I know I'm not preordering or getting it at full price unless the reviews say it's the most spectacular thing ever, maybe.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

BlazetheInferno posted:

So, uhh, I just want to mention, I've made a little discovery in the Jadwiga campaign.

One of the levels, you're not allowed to build Castles, and walls and towers have had their stone price jacked way up.

They uh

They forgot to do the same for Bombard towers.

Single Stone Wall Segment: 200 stone.
Watch Tower: 300 stone.
Bombard Tower: 125 stone.

Welp.

yep that's how I did that mission

I think if you did some market abuse you could get imp real early and start building bombard towers before the first teuton attack even and never lose a castle

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

I'm not sure an inability or lack of desire to work around a literal 65% tax has a single thing to do with MS or age of empires

E: or any company or product, frankly

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Edit: Meh.

Azran fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Aug 15, 2021

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Okay, going back through the early campaigns again, and I have a goddamn question.

Jean Bureau. The Bombard Cannon hero in the last Joan of Arc mission. Why the actual gently caress does this man have worse stats than a regular Bombard Cannon? His wikipedia page's first paragraph contains the sentence "he is credited with making French artillery the most effective in the world."

They did this man a hefty disservice.

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Is there a thread for AoE 1 and 3 as well?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


There's way less people playing those so I'm afraid not.
This thread could be about the whole series but eh...

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i vomit kittens
Apr 25, 2019


Negostrike posted:

There's way less people playing those so I'm afraid not.
This thread could be about the whole series but eh...

this was probably a good idea considering how many posts have been about AoE4 so, done. i'll try to update the OP a bit at least for info on the new game when i have time

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